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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:16 PM
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The British police just found a bag with iPods and Gatorade
No, but they found a 'bomb kit' in a suitcase:

Terror detectives 'find bomb kit'

Police have been searching the wood for several days
Police probing an alleged plot to bring down an airline have found a suitcase containing items which could be used to construct a bomb, the BBC has learned.
Officers have been searching a piece of land called King's Wood in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5261086.stm

How easy is it to plant a bomb kit in the woods? You don't need to be a nucular scientist to construct something out from the description in the media, and if not faked by the govt. itself, this could be made by any person of extreme political convictions, and planted in the woods.

How it worries me that this fact may not even be taken into consideration by the people that flogs every ounce of political juice out of this.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:17 PM
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1. And it'll get worse and worser until November
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:20 PM
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2. Let me guess...
they got an anonymous tip about this so-called bomb kit.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:33 PM
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6. They've been searching through the national parks

Lake District

Training camps for terrorists in UK parks

Ian Cobain and Richard Norton-Taylor
Monday August 14, 2006
The Guardian

Suspected terrorists have mounted training exercises in some of the most popular areas of the national parks of England and Wales, the Guardian has learned.
Undercover detectives have watched groups of up to 20 men, some with known terrorist connections, taking part in outdoor training in the Lake District and elsewhere. The exercises have gone on sporadically for several years, but some training camps are understood to have been run in the past 12 months.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1844155,00...

Al-Queda camps in Britain. Isn't that amazing?

"However, police believe they have clear evidence the men were preparing a mission of some sort, not enjoying a camping holiday. The surveillance is thought to have been by detectives from Scotland Yard's antiterrorism branch; security sources in London confirmed they were aware of it."

I am amazed that the Guardian doesn't take the time to think aloud (or maybe ask the police) what such training may be, if it's connected with the airline attack. Did they rehearse making bombs, or did they do physical training? If they were under surveillance, why didn't the undercover detectives take photographs, or document it?

"Colin Cramphorn, chief constable of West Yorkshire, said camps would be found in the Yorkshire Dales and the western Highlands, as well as the Lakes. "They're actually pure indoctrination camps," he said in a media interview. The following day his press officer said he had been attempting merely to "make an analogy", adding: "He was not talking about camps as physical locations." As part of the inquiry into the July 7 attacks police have investigated a rafting trip to Bala in north Wales by two of the four suicide bombers made shortly before the attacks."
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:39 PM
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7. If I needed a story to get extra credibility
I would leak it through the Guardian.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:42 PM
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9. they train in parks and leave their 'bomb kits' behind?
:crazy:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:51 PM
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11. That's beautiful country
I have always wanted to go hiking there, and the picture confirms that. I will take my chances with the terrorist camps...
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:27 PM
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3. Frankly I would love to hear their description of a "bomb kit"
Because anybody with even a modicum of chemistry knowledge could construct a bomb kit from items that you would find in any grocery store. And you wouldn't even have to walk down the cleaning aisle to do so. And if one was really clever, a person could simply make a bomb out of what you find in the produce section.

A "bomb kit" could be virtually anything the law wants it to be. And if they want to find it in your pantry, they can. This is all more fear and terror crap to keep the people paniced, and distract them from the fact that their civil rights are being stripped again.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 02:25 PM
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13. When I was a kid we used to pack Fizzies, all we could, into
a glass baby food jar and put in a tiny bit of water.

Those things COULDN'T have been good for you.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:29 PM
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4. What was in the kit?
A police source told the BBC the case contained "everything you would need to make an improvised device".

Vaseline, a screwdriver, matches, and a note referencing Al-Qaeda perhaps??
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:33 PM
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5. oh my god! there's a gym bag with a mysterious liquid
soaked into the gym clothes, a smelly pair of tube socks, boxing gloves, eye drops, some deoderant and a tube of hair gel in my car! clear the building! clear the parking garage!

It's all sitting in the sun too. There may actually be some people laying on the sidewalk outside overcome by the odoire of Chanel Locker Room Number 5 exuding from my broiling metrosexual he-man bomb down there right now.

GatorAde and IPODS? I think we're going to start finding all KINDS of free advertising from here on out.

Didja hear about the bag they found with PSP, Toshiba Satellite Laptop A15-850 and a FREE CASE of New Lemon Twist Dr. Pepper!?! What about the new Very Berry Summer's Eve Douche and the new Cartier Ceramide XO sportswatch, with three year warranty, leather, cobalt-free titanium, and Diamond-Brite (tm) Gold Tone wrist band for a lasting durable finish that won't come off on your arm.

oy.







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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:39 PM
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8. OMG i have lip gloss and lotion in my purse!!!!
i'm already ASSuming the postion.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:46 PM
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10. This was leaked only to the BBC.
I don't know if I trust them any more with these kind of stories.

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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 02:10 PM
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12. its been a week since the arrests where made, and no bombs have been found

no airplane tickets, no passports, no detonators.

proving a plot was there will be very very deficult. these leaks are meant to sustain the story more than the investigation.

If there had been a real threat, then why are they STILL SEARCHING FOR EVIDENCE?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 02:27 PM
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14. If they were going to plant something...
...don't you think they'd plant an actual bomb, or maybe a disassembled bomb, as opposed to a bunch of random kinda-bomby-ish bits?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:59 AM
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15. Well, maybe
But then it wouldn't fit the concept of 'assemble-your-own-bomb-as-you-fly', would it?

See this post about the ricin scare in January 2003:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:18 AM
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16. Depends rather on what was in the 'kit', doesn't it?
If it contains the usual medicinal grade peroxide and fingernail polish remover, then it might be real or it might be fake. Assuming the peroxide-acetone explosive was the goal.

If it contains the materials in a grade sufficient for actually making an explosive, you're pretty much left with either government or having it be real. I doubt most people would risk going out and tracking down the materials--something that would certain attract attention at this point--just for a lark.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:25 AM
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17. And the iPod probably has songs by *YUSUF ISLAM* on it!
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 07:28 AM by Tesha
And the iPod probably has songs by YUSUF ISLAM on it!

(Mine does, and yours probably does too. Radical shit like
"Peace Train", "Moon Shadow", and "Oh Very Young".)

Tesha
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:23 AM
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19. My first thought, too. What's on that Ipod.
Dixie chicks?

I'm to the point where I don't trust anything that happens in a British park any more.

lol
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:16 AM
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18. You know it's funny how good the British are at this
They are the ones uncovering the plots. Maybe we should give up our independence.

:sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:07 AM
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20. I wish those "terror detectives" would come out to the beach where
we live. People, some who might even have extreme political convictions, leave all kinds of "bomb kits" there and we need a serious clean up.

:crazy:

Why do the British always take to the woods to solve their political problems as if they're perpetually re-enacting "As You Like It"? Wasn't that inconvenient WMD expert found suicided in a park as well? There was a third incident that slips my mind.

I have no trouble believing that there are wackos out there would are trying to make bombs and concocting plots. I do have a hard time believing that they ALWAYS seem to do it at propitious moments for the Bush/Blair mafia.
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