DU this MSNBC poll on wiretap decision

[dancingme]

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14394523/

[countingbluecars]

1. Done n/t

[Blue Belle]

2. Done!

:)

[grytpype]

3. dun

[KansDem]

4. Completed

62% Yes
38% No

I think we see Chimpie's core supporters here...

[Greyhound]

5. Done, the current indication is that 38% of amerikans are too

stupid to live.

[gkhouston]

6. done. Scummy wording of the "answers".

Instead of a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether it's unconstitutional, they have to push the "give up freedom to be safe" crapola. :puke:

[cool user name]

84. The skewing of the answers is abominable.

As if it really were a "privacy" issue. :eyes:

It's much much more than that.

[riona]

7. Done

[helderheid]

8. done K & R

[Pacifist Patriot]

9. 38% of Americans want to live in a Dictatorship. Hmmmm.

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. I was hoping that the poll had to do with impeaching bush

as a result of the ruling.

[never_get_over_it]

11. As most polls this is stupid because the answer

"No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security."

is contradictory I'm willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security sounds alot like I'm willing to sacrifice some of my CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS in the name of security...so how could it be UNCONSTITUTIONAL

btw - I voted in their stupid poll -

[focusfan]

81. i clicked on the poll to vote

but for some reason i couldn't find where to vote.anyways I
would vote it's unconstituinal to wire tap i think Bush should
get in trouble for doing that

[BrightKnight]

12. done - n/t

[diddlysquat]

13. Done!

[Rude Horner]

14. I don't like the wording under "No"

It says "No, the practice is not unconstitutional...."

Um...yes it is. A Federal Judge just ruled that it WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. So that should not be part of the "No" answer. That's not debatable. What it should say is:
"No. Even though it IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ...."

btw - I voted. But it just pisses me off, these little twists of words.

[me b zola]

15. done

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional? * 8577 responses

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.----62%

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.---38%


I am going to write to msnbc and ask them to include a link to the judges ruling by their poll. :)

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. Amazing

that 39% are willing to sacrifice civil liberties for "security" which is merely something the GOP has manipulated.

[arwalden]

17. Who Are These "38%" Who Think It's Okay???

[Rude Horner]

19. The same 38% who still love Bush (n/t)

[file83]

44. The same 38% that belong to the "Dictatorship Preservation Society"...

...I call them "fascist conservationists" :-)

[bdamomma]

90. or right wing authoritarians

[ComerPerro]

48. people who worship Bush and feel they will never be listened to

because they "have nothing to hide".


I like to ask people like that, "What if President Hillary Clinton wants to monitor and record all your calls, without a warrant?"

[rocktivity]

18. What kind of choices are these?

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.

Warrantless wiretapping is ILLEGAL precisely because it DOES violate the Constitution--it has nothing to do with whether or not you "mind" having your privacy invaded as a result. THERE'S NO REASON TO SPY DOMESTICALLY WITHOUT A WARRANT!

Anyway, props to the judge, and CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

:woohoo:
rocknation

[Seabiscuit]

83. Precisely why such polls are a waste of time. Count on MSNBC to pull

this kind of crap every time.

[Terre]

20. K&R!!

This is being FReeped.  :(  Damn wingnuts.

[Narraback]

21. Done -- 61 to 39

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional? * 12481 responses

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy. 61%


No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security. 39%

[corkhead]

22. 61% believe in constitution, 39% are idiots

[Hamlette]

23. done

[mod mom]

24. kick.

[stepnw1f]

25. 61% are Patriotic... 39% are COWARDS

cowards throwing away their #1 right in this country: PRIVACY.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Wow you can see the usual division between the sheep and

the awakened

[mmonk]

27. Done. Anytime I can help people learn to

protect and defend the constitution of the United States, I will gladly do so.

[catlawyer]

28. Still 61/39

Unbelievable.

[warrens]

29. I don't dare look, but FR must be foaming at the mouth about now

Their absolute belief that they represent the majority in the U.S. must really be taking a hit these days.

[Chimichurri]

30. done 61% yes It's illegal 39% I'm a shmuck and don't mind

[kaygore]

31. Done and it is a HUGE threat

[EVDebs]

32. The results jibe with Stanley Milgram's study on blind obedience...nt

[Lowell]

33. Done

It is thinking like this that allowed the Nazis to come to power in Germany. Where do these brain dead asshats come from?

[UpInArms]

34. 39% that voted in this poll have shit for brains

n/t

[Iowa]

35. Done.

[MrCoffee]

36. Done 61-39 with 27760 responses

[azmouse]

37. done

[Nimrod2005]

38. Done.......

[yellerpup]

39. Done!

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional? * 37373 responses
Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.
61%
No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.
39%

[bulletsandspikes]

40. Done!

If you're willing to give up your rights for "security" you should be moved to an island jail where you don't have any rights. Wait don't they have one of those already?

[newyawker99]

54. Hi bulletsandspikes!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Laurab]

41. Done the backwash is voting 61% - 39% n/t

[file83]

42. 61% Yes........39% NO!!!! Say What?!!? Are these people NUTS!?

Or maybe just brainwashed!?

[tigersumtin]

43. Done.

[rosesaylavee]

45. 61% of 59,622 say YES

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional? * 59622 responses

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.
61%

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.
39%

[madokie]

46. yes 61%

[citizen snips]

47. done

n/t

[Popol Vuh]

49. Done

thanks for the link...

[dogday]

50. Done and who are these 39% idiots who

would give our freedoms away like freaking candy?????

[mnhtnbb]

53. Brown shirt wannabees

[koopie57]

51. I voted with the judge

but if the wiretapping were done legally with the necessary oversights, it would be different. I hope many of those 39 percenters had taken this into consideration. Or, we are in deep sh** folks.

[mnhtnbb]

52. Done . Still 61% Yes

[Laelth]

55. Done. K&R.

:dem:

-Laelth

[texpatriot2004]

56. Done nt

[RagAss]

57. done 61-39 ... for the side of Freedom

[txwhitedove]

58. Done.

[izzybeans]

59. No the practice is not unconstitutional, but I'm willing to turn a blind

eye to this very constitution so I can feel safer without my lip balm on a plane.

The no choice doesn't make any sense.

[theanarch]

60. done...

61% in support of the decision, 39% against, with 76,242 votes.

[Mr_Spock]

61. Funny how the morons want to say it's OK

They know in their hearts it's not. People act stupid when it comes to politics.

[Greybnk48]

62. done, still 61% yes

[Canuckistanian]

63. Done. 61/39, not bad

Just about mirrors the Iraq war approval numbers, if I'm not mistaken.

[NiteOwll]

64. Done.

[Vidar]

65. done

[LaPera]

66. Come on 62% and then rolling....

[bigwillq]

67. Done

Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional? * 78136 responses

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.
61%

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.
39%

[IndyJones]

68. Done. How could you vote no, when the judge clearly outlined her reasons.

[Califooyah Operative]

69. done. nt

[jdadd]

70. Done EOM

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.
61%

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.
39%

[Tennessee Gal]

71. Done!

..........

[intaglio]

72. Not voted 'cos I is a Brit but

Did you notice the way the question was worded?

Ok the lead question is clear "Do you agree with the judge's ruling that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional?"

Then "Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy." notice that it moves from the general to the personal. there will be a fair number of people with no knowlege of the law who will say "we-l-l it doesn't invade my privacy"

or "No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security." you are given 2 reasons to click this button a) "The practise is not unconstitutional" and b) "I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security"

in other words MSBC has loaded the dice. Just be thankful that 60% + have voted with "Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy."

[Pacifist Patriot]

75. I most definitely noticed that and it's why I think these polls are....

ridiculous. I vote, but I haven't seen one yet on MSNBC or CNN that allowed for clear answers.

Do you agree?

Yes
No
I don't know.

That's it. Sheesh, it would save them a few characters in typing.

[Ganja Ninja]

73. Done.

[stepnw1f]

74. kick (nt)

[Catchawave]

76. So 39% believe the GOP spin that the UK terror plot

was probably due to "warrantless" wiretapping ? LOL, I thought it was due to someone ratting out the "bad guys" !?

The media really needs to pay attention to the fearmongering spin. Also, these numbers seem to match anti-war and Bush approval :evilgrin:

[OhioChick]

77. Done

61% Yes

[spanone]

78. Anyone hear the ASSHOLE Bill Bennett on CNN yesterday?

He actually had the balls to say, and I quote "the polling on the NSA issue will be a slam-dunk for the president".

Fuck you Bill Bennett. Go back to Vegas you swine.

[elehhhhna]

80. Gamblepants used a sports analogy? LOL

[OnyxCollie]

79. Done. nt

[young_at_heart]

82. Poor wording in question.......should ask if Bush broke the law

Invasion of privacy vs civil liberties is not key the issue.

[NoSheep]

85. Done!

[nmliberal]

86. Yes 62% No 38% with 79,212 responses n/t

[yorkiemommie1]

87. done

there's that base again.

[Cha]

88. One has to wonder about

those stupid 38%ers!

Yes, warrantless wiretapping is an invasion of my privacy.
62%

No, the practice is not unconstitutional. I am willing to sacrifice some civil liberties in the name of security.
38%

[bdamomma]

89. done

where has people's common sense have gone to, to those who want to give up their freedoms talk to someone/somebody who has not had any. We have taken so much for granted, very sad.

[Booster]

91. Done and kick.