I'm sick of reading what RW blowhards have to say here on DU

[rockymountaindem]

Listen, if you get mad watching Scarborough or whoever the heck he is, then turn him off. If you consistently get pissed at Mathews, change the channel. If John Gibson's opinion pieces make you want to scream, go to a different website.

Most importantly, don't come over here and talk about them. First of all, if I cared what they have to say, I'd watch their shows or read their blogs. Secondly, they don't care if you're mad. They don't care if you send e-mails telling them off. They don't care how much we bash them here at DU. Why? Because at least it proves you're watching, and that's all they care about. Well, that's probably oversimplifying the issue. They probably also take a little glee in pissing off liberals, that is if they're paying attention to us at all (which we know Michelle Malkin does).

So please, hit 'em where it hurts and stop watching their shows, reading their websites etc. Moreover, if you must watch, don't talk about it because that just makes them smile for several reasons, and it makes me mad.

[NYCGirl]

1. No, they don't take "a little glee" in pissing off liberals, they take

A LOT of glee in pissing off liberals.

I agree with you.

[azureblue]

18. yep

it's a classic strategy that keeps us in reactionary mode. it keeps us off balance so we can't act and sustain an action for a long time. Think boxing. If you are on defense, you can't be on offense,a nd all you do is react to punches, not throw them.

What we need to do is to change our reactions: don't simply rant, but call it a lie- they know it is a lie- and attack. don't even bother to detail the lies at stage one, simply call them lies and attack. Their reaction will always be to go into name call mode, and we repeat an attack. Call it as a stupid playground bully tactic and attack again. See the weak point is they never use facts in toto, just lies and half truths. What we should do in response is to call them on it.

Every LTE I have written in response starts out with this phrase- "I am responding to the lies and half truths Republican shills are spreading". And I follow with a call out- either spell out your sources or stop lying. Then, I lay out the truth and sources. And I end with a simple question, are the readers Americans who will stand up for the Constitution and demand the truth, or are they partisans who put greed & party above this country?

[glitch]

23. Well said - and belated welcome to DU! nt

[Mr_Spock]

69. I agree with you and OP - STOP being reactionary FOOLS on DU

It's a complete waste of energy. If a war was declared and nobody showed up...

Exactly, we must secretly be wanting these morons to succeed.

[donheld]

2. What i don't understand is

why so many think they need to post *'s pictures here on DU. What makes DU people think I wanna look at that face anyway.

[ClassWarrior]

3. Amen. K&R

Thanks for saying so eloquently what I was thinking.

NGU.

[Dhalgren]

4. Hear! Hear! K&R

[obnoxiousdrunk]

5. Thanks for that.

[rucky]

6. Don't Feed The Animals k&r

[cali]

7. No kidding

Thanks for this, totally agree. Enough already with Tucker et.al. I cry uncle. I know people enjoy righteous indignation and the opportunity to hyperventilate over these blowhards, but c'mon. The OP is right. By watching, all you're doing is lining their pockets.

[Catherine Vincent]

8. No.

But thanks anyways.:)

[rockymountaindem]

9. Aw, c'mon

Put the remote down, and slowly back away...

[zbdent]

10. Problem with that line of thinking -

How do we get informed about the excrement that is thrown at us then?

If someone does not monitor their lies, then the re-spewing dittododoes/freepturds hit us unaware . . .

Then, of course, the uninformed co-workers/siblings/parents/acquaintences who don't actually watch that stuff hear it in the MSM and think "Oh, since it's in the MSM, it has to be true!"

We can't expect MediaMatters or FAIR to do all the legwork. If we did sit around and let someone else do the footwork, where would DU be?

[ClassWarrior]

15. Why NOT expect MediaMatters or FAIR to do all the legwork??

That'd free up much more of our time to elect Dems, work against election fraud, end the war, feed children, etc.

NGU.

[hfojvt]

61. I was hoping MoDo might do some of it

:evilgrin:

Although I am sure her legwork is better than her grasp of the facts. Also I have some doubts about mediamatters, not that I read them alot. The following tiff seems misguided, and DUer onenote raises doubts about another in the same thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=181046&mesg_id=190600

I do not read most of the threads about "Tweety said" or "Russert said" but I used to read the Daily Howler, and the option is there for people who wish to do so, but without cable, watching them is impossible anyway for me.

[Check12]

90. Hey man, we are the left wing noise machine.

And that is very important, If we all just grabbed the remote and hit the off button we would be much worse of politically then we are now.

Remember freedom of speech must be spoken.

Give me your rage and indignation, I embrace it, and I applaud it!

[Frances]

11. I chose not to have the option to watch TV

I live in the mountains and can't get any stations unless I have cable. I didn't get cable so now I'm not tempted to watch the propaganda. I watch movies on DVDs instead. I'm sure my decision helped my blood pressure.

[anitar1]

100. Good for you. There is enough going on without

watching those RW bums on TV or listening to same on the radio. It is totally a waste of time. See one and you've seen all of them.I never watch those rejects.

[Batgirl]

12. Because of the pronounced rightwing slant of corporate media,

a large portion of the liberal blogosphere is devoted to tracking, monitoring and discussing the various atrocities of said media; are you actually demanding such discussions be forbidden on DU because they annoy you?

What about political bias in newspapers (like the current WaPo ombudsman scandal) -- is it okay to talk about that?

[rockymountaindem]

13. No, I'm talking about threads where someone starts off with

"Scarborough said this about liberals..."

And then there are 20+ posts of people saying how wrong he is, or what a jackass he is, along with the few people who promise for the umpteenth time that they're not going to watch him anymore. There's no reason why threads like this need to be started every night for Tweety, Scarborough, Fox News, Tucker etc. It's overkill, and it doesn't get us anywhere.

[cali]

14. You forgot boring

Really, really boring.

[Batgirl]

17. See, then you're getting into a subjective area

Since there are bound to be varying opinions on what constitutes legitimate discussion, and what constitutes 'overkill'. It might be less stressful for you simply to not click on subject lines such as "Scarborough said this about liberals."

[ClassWarrior]

20. I think all the OP is asking is that we ALL be a little more...

...respectful of others' positions, posters and "clickers" alike. I never took it as though the OP wanted anything "forbidden."

NGU.

[Batgirl]

28. Well, he did issue an admonishment

"Moreover, if you must watch, don't talk about it because that just makes them smile for several reasons, and it makes me mad." I could very well have misunderstood the intent though.

Does the OP have a point? Of course. There are undoubtedly threads (on a variety of topics) that don't really accomplish anything or go anywhere. If that was the standard by which we judge all threads, we'd be eliminating a big chunk.

I think it's also good to keep in mind that not everyone who comes here has been aware for long of just how biased the corporate media is. At any given moment, there are numbers of people reading and participating in these threads who are recent arrivals. Posting about the latest asinine pronouncements of Tweety, Scarborough, Wolfie etc. isn't old, boring news to them. It can be pretty eye-opening in fact.

There are recurring thread topics on DU that annoy me as well. I've found it really does make more sense to not click on them though.

[dalaigh lllama]

73. Very good point, Batgirl

Some of the threads that seem repeated ad nauseum to those who have been here awhile are always being seen for the first time by somebody. It's not always going to be the same meme that will capture the attention of some wavering lurking conservative and engage his/her brain cells. Who knows, we might persuade a freeper with spelling ability to switch over after they've seen one of those "Why is everyone here unable to spell 'moron'" threads? I say, avoid frustration by avoiding the threads that make us crazy; they just might be the ticket for someone else.

[AZBlue]

56. I agree...kind of. I don't want to read 29 posts saying the same thing.

But if someone posts the info to encourage DU'ers to respond and complain, I personally think that's good.

[rockymountaindem]

57. But on the other hand, complaining doesn't do any good

because all it does is let people know we're watching. As they say, the only bad publicity is no publicity. Do you think they're going to change their anti-Democratic party tune just because they get a handful of complaints? I think not.

[doublethink]

85. So ..... don't complain, just shut the fuck up?

Stay ignorant, fall in line, yes maser, yes maser. Oh I get it, I'm beginning to understand completely, gee thanks for the advise. :sarcasm:

[AZBlue]

110. Depends on who it is.

Faux News will never change. But, we can hit them where it counts - their advertisers.

MSNBC, CNN, etc...I still hold out hope for them. I do think it's good to contact them, as well as their advertisers.

[doublethink]

79. us? I quote you ......

"It's overkill, and it doesn't get us anywhere." -snip- There are over 80,000 members of DU, with different schedules daily, why does it bother you if some of 'us' re-post something throughout the day for others of 'us' to see? GD moves quite fast and some of 'us' may have missed something.

[BurtWorm]

16. I don't watch cable news at all.

I got the Gibson link from dailykos.

I disagree with you about keeping right wing "opinion" off DU. I offer it partly because right-wingers themselves are not allowed on here, but it's important for lefties to know what the right is spewing. (I agree it's not necessary to have wingers on-line in real time. They have their own fora to bloviate on, and in real-time they prove to be more disruptive than worth the trouble.) But I think it's useful to know that the right-wing has a coordinated attack on the left, don't you? Don't you want to know what that attack actually is, so at least some of us know what we're dealing with?

Frankly, I don't want to go to Fox News on cable to listen to them speak their gas when all I need is their words. I think it's a service to have their words brought here for dissection and analysis.

[PATRICK]

19. Keep confronting sponsors

negativity is poison. Dropping viewership and polarization is poison. Taint of lies and crimes is guilt by association, possibly real collusion. If THEY need some help with the facts abused in the shows they sponsor, give it to them and ask if their own product is as shabbily guarded by lies and false claims?

AAR is far guiltier than DU of reporting the latest foam from mouth tide coming from the Beelzebubbas and they passm it off as light entertainment. I think the post is fairly typical of ennui at having to revisit the dog vomit every day even for cheap laughs. Turn off the TV completely. Ditch the consumer products. Get the truth online and disseminate, share and act.

They are a dangerous waste in a prophetically devastated wasteland. There is no future there.

[Bridget Burke]

21. Oops! I misunderstood your headline.

I thought you were referring to the rightwing blowhards who post her on DU. Generally, they don't post for long.

(It would be rude to name names.)

[doublethink]

81. Generally ...... but some take time to weed out.

I've even heard of some becoming moderators before being tomb stoned. Peace. :)

[sabra]

22. I respectfully disagree...

Know thy enemy, and expose them when appropriate. If we didn't do this, Jeff Gannon would still be sitting @ the WH press gaggles. If we didn't do this, Bill Bennett would have received a pass for his African American abortion comments....

My 2 cents.

peace.

[ClassWarrior]

25. I can know my enemy without having to be privvy to every petty insult...

...he throws at me, and without having to subject myself to the psychological warfare he's waging at me.

NGU.

[sabra]

29. Remember the other day, when DU helped expose MSNBC purging

a transcript of Andrea Mitchell's i-view with NYT's Risen? We need to know what we are up against, IMO.

[ClassWarrior]

31. That wasn't a petty insult from the gonnhereal mind of Joe Scarface.

NGU.

[sabra]

33. So there was no need to thread on Tweety's remarks on UBL

and Michael Moore correlations?

[ClassWarrior]

37. What, the fact that Tweety is Corporate Media Whore is news to you??

NGU.

[sabra]

40. and how about when DU (and others) exposed Jeff Gannon?

I'd rather see the threads, and chose to ignore, then not see them at all.

peace.

[ClassWarrior]

42. Again, that wasn't a petty insult from the gonnhereal mind of Scarface.

NGU.

[sabra]

43. then who decides what is/isn't.... Jeff Gannon's exposure spurred

from comments he made at press gaggle re: Harry Reid. How about Bill Bennett's comments?

[ClassWarrior]

44. The OP was asking us to decide for ourselves. You know, personal...

...accountability? I think we're all big boys and girls, and are generally smart enough to know the difference between something substantial and Corporate Media Whore masturbation.

NGU.

[sabra]

46. I read it a little differently, but I agree with your point about personal

accountability....

peace.

[ClassWarrior]

48. Peace.

NGU.

[firefox]

24. You raise a big point.

You are the echo chamber when you answer back. You are the echo. They are the ones shouting at the canyon wall. They are real voices and there are plenty of them, but when you stay on their talking points, you are distracting. You are echoing.

Priorities are a big deal in life and the fact that you can let elected officials walk around and not talk about the priorities of change is what gets me most. Somebody will call for legislation to protect children from violence in video games and the media jumps on that and then it enters the echo chambers.

The parties are defending status quo when what we need is change. It is a no brainer that we need to make the definition of voting machines include that it is something with a paper trail. But my big thing is that we need to end the Largest Minority Rules where an office can be won without a majority of votes.

Is it really asking to much that a majority is needed to win office and that we have a direct vote for president? No. That is the way it should be and the fact that it is not that way should tell you something.

Writers are people that write and a lot of people here at DU consider themselves writers. In the last 5 years I have written a million words and I consider myself a writer and I understand what it means to find your voice. I think that what is missing from the bloggers and many here is an understanding of The Largest Minority Rule and its importance.

Echo on.

[baby_mouse]

26. No, sorry, we need to hear their talking points

Otherwise grassroots run up against them unprepared.

You have the option of ignoring the threads you don't like.

[ClassWarrior]

30. Hear? Or regurgitate ad nauseum, so we end up as carriers of the disease?

NGU.

[DanCa]

51. Air America radio please snipets from there shows.

That should be enough to know what's going on.

[baby_mouse]

53. What are you saying?

Do you believe yourself tending towards being a Republican because their beliefs are ridiculed here?

[NYCGirl]

34. You want to hear them? Go here — they do great jobs:

www.mediamatters.org

http://www.newshounds.us/

[baby_mouse]

55. Don't tell me what to do, please, it's rude and annoying.

Thank you.

[NYCGirl]

58. I'm just trying to help. But if you want to torture yourself listening to

the right wing spew, go ahead.

[baby_mouse]

63. I know that it can be upsetting to hear these people and their warpedness.

I'm not *torturing* myself at all, unless you believe expressing disgust for evil is self-mutilation.

I'm not suggesting that reacting with *anger* to these people and their little tricks is WRONG. It says a great deal about the strong moral character of those who become trapped in the anger. However, I don't think falling into the trap of becoming emotionally involved is inevitable and I must say that I greatly enjoy expressing EXACTLY what I think of these disgusting people whenever they say something inhuman and disgusting whenever I have the opportunity. It's quite rare that they actually make me genuinely *angry*.

Common decency requires respect in reciprocal measure. These people have no respect for anything, and so in expessing disgust for them, I have abandoned no principle of decency and do not feel sullied. Common decency isn't so easily cast aside as some might think, I suspect.

And THEY most richly deserve every single insult that comes their way. There's nothing unhealthy in expressing contempt for evil.

[NYCGirl]

70. No, there's nothing unhealthy in expressing contempt for evil,

but IMO, immersing oneself in it when there's no need is an exercise in masochism. But if that floats your boat, go for it. I'll let the wonderful David Brock do it for me and support Media Matters for America.

[baby_mouse]

101. :-) Okay. nt

[lostnfound]

64. grassroots here -- sometimes I pass on the FACTS about something

to people I know who have probably heard the LIES and SPIN about it on TV.

For example, I read on DU about the spin that the Abramoff scandal was about Democrats, so I brought it up with a friend the next day -- 'can you believe that the TV is spinning it that way?? You know there wasn't a single Democrat who took money from him'. And my friend said, 'Oh really?? I didn't know that! I fell for it! I was out with some buddies drinking last night, and they told me the Dems were really in trouble over this one...'

And so on. So now he's armed with the truth.

[baby_mouse]

103. Now THAT's what I'm talking about, buddy. NT + 'NUFF SAID.

[Vidar]

27. I agree

[fishnfla]

32. Amen !

knr

[Elidor]

35. O, we mustn't make rockymountaindem mad

Let's all make sure we change how we use DU so we don't piss him off.

[rockymountaindem]

47. Thanks for your consideration

I'm glad to see some people are falling in line...

[doublethink]

83. Sounds kinda Bush Like?

:shrug:

[baby_mouse]

54. Thank you. nt

[Writer]

77. What is it with you?

What, is rockymountaindem's pointing out the obvious really that personal for you? So much so that you can't ignore HIS message (that obviously pisses you off?) I mean, do you like living day to day feeling pissed off about something? Even by someone who gives you a suggestion on how to AVOID being pissed off? In other words, do you like GETTING pissed off about BEING pissed off?

Or is it GETTING pissed off about NOT BEING pissed off? Or... (sigh)

Oh well. Back to more important things.

[doublethink]

91. Hold on there hommie .......

the poster up there said nothing about them being personally pissed off. Your the one that sounds like your pissed off? This isn't a psychology website to deal with 'anger issues', hey people get pissed off here. Sometimes that can be a good thing rather than holding it in and EXPLODING as you just did on something you assumed. :wtf: Yea back to more important things, take a chill pill too. Hope that doesn't piss you off? :shrug: Peace. :)

[Elidor]

96. Who said I was pissed off?

I feel he was presumptuous. You're the one who's pissed off.

[grace0418]

36. Fair enough, but couldn't you just take your own advice and NOT

read the threads that talk about this stuff?

Because clearly some people feel better knowing what they're up against, even if it pisses them off. If that bothers you, which is totally valid, just ignore their threads.

[kentuck]

38. And when they come to get you...

Don't say, why didn't someone tell me??

[ClassWarrior]

39. Since when does Tucker's diahrrea of the mouth equate to...

..."coming to get you?"

:eyes:

NGU.

[Doctor_J]

75. No, I'll say "I read about this on Media Matters", or

"I read about this in the "Coservative Thought" forum on DU.

[catmandu57]

41. I don't like it either

that and people who want to tell me what the freepers are saying. Fuck a bunch of braindead assholes, I just don't open the threads.
I know people want to know every little thing these assholes are harping about, I don't, so just don't open the thread and let it sink into oblivion.

[sendero]

45. I agree...

.. about not watching them, I never turn on any of that crap, what is the point?

As for folks posting, why don't we ask the board owners for a new forum "Noise Machine Monitor" or somesuch. Then, those who wish to inform others of the outrageous lies of the noise machine would have a good place to do so.

[NYCGirl]

59. Very good idea! NT

[doublethink]

87. Yea put it all in THE FUCKING DUNGEON for Gods sake!

Sounds kinda 'Plantationist' to me? Whata you think? Peace. :)

[sendero]

105. That is exactly what it is..

... and that was exactly my intent, because that is where it belongs. give the man a chewing-gum cigar. :)

[doublethink]

94. See post #87 ........ n.t.

[sendero]

106. See post 105...

... the problem is that DU is now inundated with "Tweety said this" and "ODonell said that" threads. Sure I can ignore them, and I usually do. But what is the point. By now we all know full well how these fuckers operate. I could do the kind of lies and spin they do with half my brain removed. And frankly, if Dems ever want to have a say in this country again, we'd better learn how to do a little of it.

But the blow-by-blow - send it off where the guns and the palestinians live.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

49. I'm on a strict diet. No garbage. I get my news from BBC.

And, other foreign sources.

[DanCa]

50. Kick and recommended

I am tired of these post which do nothing other than ruin my day and raise my blood pressure.
The only thing these obnoxious freaks care about is rattings. That's how you stop these creeps. You switch em off.

[doublethink]

95. DanCa ...... re-read this thread completley ......

and in the future just ignore the threads, or posters you just don't want to 'click' on. Peace my friend. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

52. Ever since I've done that I've been much happier

:D My life is stress free where that is concerned. I have better things to do. Homework, read, another show I like etc. :)

[NNN0LHI]

60. So what happens when we stop watching these shows....

...and then people start posting how great the shows are? Should we just believe that the shows are great and not check for ourselves?

Don

[NYCGirl]

62. Has anyone said Scarborough, Hannity, et. al are great shows?

If they did, they need their head(s) examined.

[doublethink]

88. Ignorance is Bliss Ain't it?

:rofl: actually I'm laughing at you. But don't take it personally. Peace. :)

[NYCGirl]

108. If you read Media Matters and Newshounds, listen to and support

Air America Radio, and watch Countdown, you (like me) are far from ignorant.

But if you're masochistic and just like to wallow, you'll continue to watch the right wing shows and suck up the filth. But don't take it personally.

[Mind_your_head]

93. TV today is all about voyeurism

Think about it. First, here's the definition of voyeur:

Main Entry: voy·eur
Pronunciation: vwä-'y&r, voi-'&r
Function: noun
Etymology: French, literally, one who sees, from Middle French, from voir to see, from Latin vidEre -- more at WIT
1 : one obtaining sexual gratification from seeing sex organs and sexual acts; broadly : one who habitually seeks sexual stimulation by visual means
2 : a prying observer who is usually seeking the sordid or the scandalous
- voy·eur·ism /-"i-z&m/ noun
- voy·eur·is·tic /"vwä-(")y&r-'is-tik, "voi-&r-/ adjective
- voy·eur·is·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=voyeurism

-------------

particularly notice the 2nd meaning: "a prying observer who is usually seeking the sordid or the scandalous"

Isn't THAT what TV has mostly been used for? Think back to the 60's, 70's, 80's even.....'The Newly Wed Game, The Dating Game....tell us your deepest secrets/how you disagree.....oooohhhhhh, how we alll laughed!!!! Then we had Geraldo, and Ricki Lake (sp?) and, and (I pretty much stopped watching TV, so I can't name the shows very well here) BUT I think the great minds here on DU can 'fill-in-blanks' with all of the shows that go into people's personal lives and reveal the 'sordid and scandalous'! Oooooh how we love it! (not that ANY of us have EVER done anything beyond reproach .... no, of course not.... :eyes:)

We've got this 'wonderful bit' inside of each of us.....and we too often waste it by being the voyeur (the observer who is seeking the sordid or the scandalous). We are much more than that! We all know it Turn off that d*mn TV and LIVE! Take action, have an opinion, be 'out there'....don't just watch 'other people's lives'....LIVE!

--------

To NNNOLHI:

Should we just believe that the shows are great and not check for ourselves?

Life is more than TV (and I KNOW you know that).....let's all live life and 'live it fully'....TV is a wonderful technology that has mostly been used to serve up "junkfood for the mind" (which makes us dumb, fat, happy, & addicted to same).

edit: changed the last line from: 'TV is junkfood for the mind.' to 'TV is a wonderful technology that has mostly been used to serve up "junkfood for the mind"(which makes us dumb, fat, happy, & addicted to same). '

Peace

[DanCa]

65. Hannity once exploited a women on her death bed for rattings!

How could anyone watch that hermaphrodite trash bag bottom feeding scum sucker is beyond me.

[depakid]

66. I completely agree

but some people are addicted to misinformation at the expense of their blood pressure. It's not easy to quit. Took me several years. After 2000, I finally had enough. All those stations are programmed off my TV so I don't even get tempted when I channel surf. Network "news" is bad enough- and I regret it every time I get weak and watch it. Every single time.

[LibertyorDeath]

67. All the trolls that live under the bridge use this tactic

[doublethink]

89. BINGO !

You win the cup-ie doll! Oh I see you already have collected a few. This thread was really beginning to get to me. Peace, and thanks. :rofl: :)

[LibertyorDeath]

97. Well I'm sick of RW blowhards here on DU

:toast:

[doublethink]

98. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ......... be vewy vewy quiet .........

I'm hunting wabbit ....

[AuntiBush]

68. Understand Completely. Don't Watch Them Anymore.

They're not getting ratings from this kid these days.

[Geek_Girl]

71. And you'll feel much better too.

I stopped watching Mathews and CNN right after the election and I started feeling alot less stressed out. I have alot more time to do fun things with me family and I'm still more informed on most current topics due to DU and other internet news outlets. I still read cnn money to watch the markets for my 401k but that's it.

If you really are getting aggravated with these people stop watching you'll feel atlot better and if you really must know what the assholes are lying about at the moment, then you can always check out media matters.

[doublethink]

72. Well I'm sick and tired of seeing your ....

fucking whinny ass post keep popping up here in the GD and distracting everyone from more important issues going on in our fucking world today! F.............. K! Get over yourself would you? But Peace, always. :)

[Doctor_J]

74. We used to have a forum where the DU Limbeciles could post all the

daily RW talking points. I have asked the mods 3-4 times to move the 50 or so daily posts abot "Look what Rush said today" and "Hannity outdid himslef today" and "I was listening to O'Reilly today" over there, but got shot down every time.

[doublethink]

76. And furthermore ......

This happens to be a 'Political Website' where 'Discussion' takes place in the 'Discussion Forums' on 'Politics' daily. If we had a one party system of only the Democratic side of Issues I wouldn't have a problem with your argument here, BUT WE DON'T. All is not 'hunky dory' out there and there just happens to be an opposite viewpoint (Republican) of lies, deceit, bullshit being spewed daily which the DU is here for us to come to and refute with the TRUTH. You got a problem with it, don't click on the particular thread being discussed. But you or I are not going to censor what anyone believes others here need to maybe be informed on, educated on, to refute the Freepers in real life or what not. Go back to Oz if you want to close your mind to the real world, take your own advise and change the channel, but leave the rules on posting here up to the DU moderators,. Peace again. :)

[threadkillaz]

78. Sun Tzu said,

“Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories.”

[Zhade]

80. Oh, by your title I thought you meant DLCers.

NT!

[Maraya1969]

82. But I like to bitch. It makes me happy. And I don't watch those shows

much at all. But every time I do I feel like I have an obligation as an American to come on here and tell everyone what a bunch of mutant dim wits are slobbering all over the news shows. :-)

[Strelnikov_]

84. Here's An Idea

Don't read those threads. Just pass em by.

If someone feels that it is important, let em post.

We are the open minded 'liberals', aren't we?

[upi402]

86. Sometimes I don't read those posts. Other times I like to see what

the whackjobs say, and our fellow DUers' interprtation of the righty verbal spew.

[CrackpotAmerica]

92. Although I agree with you about watching...

things that you know will anger you; it is important that SOMEONE is watching and reporting back about it..

We don't live in a vacuum, and therefore, as citizens, we must all be aware of attempts to corrupt the integrity of Democratic values to those who in all actuality haven't an inkling of what our true values are as a direct result of such treachery by the GOP loyalists in the media.

Personally, beyond reading the papers and gleaning insight into these media monsters from this forum and others, I don't have the stomach to actually tune in to FOX News. In fact, I don't even know what channel it is on. However, I am glad that people are out there monitoring it and expressing their disgust. Were I not to hear it, I would be very worried by the silence.

Hit them where it hurts by making a list of the products endorsing the program and refusing to purchase any of them.

Thx!

:grouphug:

[DanCa]

99. This really would make a good poll question...(nt)

[baby_mouse]

102. Yes it would.... nt

[LiberalInGeorgia2005]

104. Thank you!

Come on people, stop giving these clowns ratings. We know Fox News is conservative, why come on here and tell us what you heard on that channel? Are we suppose to be surprised or impressed?

[LWolf]

107. Who are Scarborough, Mathews, and Gibson?

:shrug:

I wouldn't ever have heard their names if I hadn't seen them in thread titles at DU. I still don't know who they are.

[channa18]

109. Damn right....er....correct. n/t