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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:03 PM
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How to win an election when the chips are down. From GOP playbook.
  1. Own the media (done)

  2. Own the voting machines (done)

  3. Purposely bias polls, and use the media to convince people that the vote is legitimate. (done)

  4. When things are really looking bad resort to "Plan B".

  5. Bad is defined as:
    • The general populace has really had enough of your bullshit

    • Democrats have finally caught on that you actually have rigged the voting machines



Plan B:

  1. Announce far ahead of time that the voting machines are rigged, and if you lose, it is because the democrats have rigged the vote. Say this a lot (with the help of the media), so it appears that the democrats are in control of the voting machines. (in process)


  2. Just before the elections, heighten the terror alert, or drag out some scapegoat of a plot to put in the news.


  3. Rig the election as usual, and the media pundits will rationalize for you how security concerns changed voter choices in the final days (the best part is the pundits will be unwitting participants, they don't even need to know the real truth)


  4. The democrats will not be able to claim the vote was rigged, because it now appears that if anyone could rig the vote, it was the democrats (see step 1 of Plan B)




How do we "defuse" Plan B? The democrats need to start speaking up now, and loudly about who owns the voting machine companies, and the linkages to the GOP.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:10 PM
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1. No one believes the media is Pro-Bush because of this strategy.
The GOP claimed bias for so many years- while Democrats refused to point to examples of pro-GOP bias...

I have not seen any Repubs claiming voter machine fraud on the part of DEMS, but it would not suprise me if you are right & that they will repeat this strategy...
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:16 PM
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2. The leaked GOP strategy book made me think of this.
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 06:21 PM by Pobeka
There was GOP strategy document, which got "out" a couple of weeks ago. One of the talking points was that if they lose in November it was because the voting machines were rigged. Couple that together with the great success they've had in convincing the public that the media is left-biased, and the scenario I came up with makes sense (to me at least).

I don't have a link to the report of that document, I probably heard about it on the radio.

On Edit: No it wasn't the GOP strategy document -- don't remember exactly where I heard it. Google time...
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:34 PM
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3. You were right. It was posted on DU. Talking points sent to
repukes on what to say while in their districts during this break. I think Raw Story had it first.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:38 PM
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4. Thanks. I'm still unsuccessful in finding a link.
But I know I heard/saw it somewhere, and it has been on my mind, clearly.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:19 PM
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6. If it results in a thhorough examination of the election fraud
and rigging, it will be worth it. Of course I want the republiclowns nailed on their fraud-across the board-but if it comes about through their attempts to smear the dems with it and forces the auditing of all elections, so be it.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:59 PM
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9. The problem with the current situation
Which will be what we have if the GOP is still in power after November, is that they will simply declare another whitewashing commission to "investigate" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). If that happens we will be in even worse shape because the evoting will be officially "blessed" by congress. A tainted congress -- but the average citizen doesn't know the difference.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:38 PM
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26. This is also what's holding up real voting reform - if it gets pushed now,
the GOPs will weiner it up till the "fixes" are all cosmetic and nothing of substance will come of it.

I really think only a RELENTLESS full-court press by Dems ON AIR on every program they can get on without getting sidetracked on any other issue will be the only way the public gets a clue to how serious it is that one party controls most of the voting machines.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 06:43 PM
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5. Perfectly said - - The most IMPORTANT POST OF THE DAY
And should be repeated EVERY DAY by every one of us till it starts to sink in.

KandR
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:22 PM
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14. Agreed
And recommended
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:25 PM
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7. bingo.
especially the part about rationalizing after the vote, to explain the discrepancy between the polls and the outcome.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:12 PM
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10. And the media will say whatever is needed. Face it - the smartest thing
they ever did was one of the most evil things they ever did - they bought control of most news media.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:39 AM
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16. Those media holdings can be made worthless for their purposes
of propaganda by reinstating The Fairness Doctrine.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:01 PM
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23. I wouldn't mind every viewer knowing the GOP has controlled newsmedia for
over 10yrs now. I think they'd feel the way most of us do now.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 07:22 PM
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25. Agreed.
:thumbsup:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:30 PM
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8. Sadly true. That and so much more...
it's the same question, rhetorically, the every totalitarian rulers "asks" his populace every day.

"What are YOU going to do about?"

If the answer is "nothing", then it's onward and downward once again!
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:14 PM
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11. Nighttime kick. n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:18 PM
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12. Republicans own most all of the voting machine companies
and the proprietary codes.

Will that make any difference?
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:20 PM
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13. No, no conflict of interest there...
:sarcasm:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:42 PM
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15. Yes.
It was foolish of me to suggest it. Just another one of my crazy, left-wing, loony, paranoid, conspiracy theories hatched on my last visit to the moon.:-)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:46 AM
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17. An astonishing conflict of interest.
Remarkable.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 12:55 AM
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18. And the oldest trick in their book .....




"Point fingers and accuse the other side of everything they (the rethugs) are guilty of."


They must remember, if you shout a lie loud enough and often enough sooner or later it becomes accepted as the truth.



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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:07 AM
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19. Mark Crispin Miller points out the pathological projection practised
by the right-wing Republicans in his book on election fraud "Fooled Again."
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 04:26 PM
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24. Yes, Mark Crispin Miller fleshes out this theory
You can read the transcript of his interview (which is part of General Clark's current "ClarkCast") at ms in la's blog at Clark Community Network. He talks about this, and Pobeka's exactly right.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7997

The link to the podcast is at the link below -- but due to time constraints, the transcript (link above) contains more of the interview than the podcast. David Dill and CA State Senator Debra Bowen are also interviewed on the podcast.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7992

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 11:44 AM
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22. They didn't buy up control of the broadcast media in the 80s and 90s to
assure a free democratic society, that's for sure.
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Blue Shark Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 01:23 AM
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20. WE say...
...All together now...

...GET OVER IT!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 08:44 AM
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21. This is why we can never "Get Over It"
They stole the 2004 elections. Kerry is the real president, but the manipulations of the vote and the machinations of the media and popular sentiment lead some to say "Get Over It."

But the sad fact is that our democracy has been cut off at the roots. And the perpatrators have gone on to lie and deceive the public on every matter that has thus far been presented.

We are dealing with the biggest bunch of crooks our country has ever harbored, and giving them an inch is like selling the farm for a bag of peanuts.

Give them no quarter, fight them at every opportunity, call them out for what they are. Doing anything less allows them to get close enough to get their hands further in your pockets.... heck, they've already stolen the keys to the country, what makes anyone think they can be trusted at all?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 12:47 AM
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27. Kick.(nt)
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