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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:29 PM
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Why have no charges been leveled in the alleged liquid bomb plot?
C'mon guys, gotta have something on these people. Are the charges being designed around the news reports?
Curious minds want to know.

Or, did the Bush* administration, in their zeal to get this story out, fuck up the investigation?
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:33 PM
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1. Because they have enough to hold them on
They don't have to charge them for four weeks. They got three left. Why hurry? These guys aren't going anywhere.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:58 PM
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10. They are already in court arguing for more time....4 weeks not enough?
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:34 PM
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2. Curious isn't it?....Looks like another blunder !
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:36 PM
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3. Because In GB You Can Lock People Up Without Charges
We have a bill of rights, so you can't do that here. Right?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:03 PM
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12. Only for 28 days and that is a recent terra terra change.
Brits have rights too.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:17 PM
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14. But they are arguing for increasing it again to 90 days because they are
afraid they won't be able to charge them with anything. They have been investigating them for a year now? Can you say frame-up?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:22 PM
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15. I'm still hesitating on that
but swaying way towards 'this case is total bullshit'. It is starting to look a lot like the Miami 7.

I'm waiting for major alterations in the official narrative before I agree that it is total crap - again. The memory hole is going to be working overtime on this one.

We become more and more like a half-assed monty python version of 1984 - "Brazil" I think is the movie that captures best where we are at.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:37 PM
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4. Well, let's see
The allegation that they were up to something comes from Pakistan, which has a little history of inducing fantastic confessions. None of the alleged plotters had even bought airline tickets. Some of them didn't have passports. So none of them were flying anywhere anytime soon, and the guys without passports weren't going to be boarding any international flights until Halloween at the earliest.

But for some reason, the story of the plot had to come out on August 9. Had to, had to, had to. I wonder why? Did anything significant happen on August 8? Something that might be damaging to the Bush administration?

Gosh, it's a real puzzler. Oh well, I'm sure it's far too complicated and intricate for anyone in the media to figure out.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:42 PM
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5. They are still trying to find some evidence. nt.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:44 PM
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6. Because nobody committed any crime
The whole scenario is complete fiction.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:47 PM
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7. weak case, most likely that none of them will be charged without looking

like complete fools. but in three weeks you will not hear about it. Most likely just spin it like 'well, they acted suspicously, and it is better safe than sorry, you want the terrorists to wait until they blow up people?' blah blah blah.... so whats your point?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:53 PM
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8. They are waiting for people to forget the whole thing
before they admit they had nothing.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:31 PM
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17. winner..
please collect your cigar.
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:54 PM
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9. Due to the way our court system works
The police can hold them for another 21 days before charges are brought against them.

However, during this time they need to present evidence to a judge every few (3 I think) days to continue the investigation without bringing charges. If a judge believes the police don't have enough evidence to warrant further detention the police must either charge them there and then or release them.

Further more, once charges are brought you are unlikely to hear or read about much of the evidence involved until after any trial is completed. Thanks to a number of court cases where the defense was able to show that media stories about the trial may have predisposed the jurors involved into giving a guilty verdict the press aren't really able to reveal much of the information that they may have gained. There may be leaks to the press and foreign media outlets aren't prevented from following British law, but there will be little or nothing from the British media (who should have the best contacts within the British police for juicy stories).

I'm sure that someone will point out that after 7/7 the British police produced a lot of photos and physical evidence to show the press, in that case since the bombers had blown themselves up in the attacks no trial was possible thus a tainted jury wouldn't matter.

This does lead to a lot of people asking about where the evidence is. I'm not going to say whether I believe the plot or not, but the lack of public evidence doesn't shock me too much given the circumstances.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:02 PM
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11. Do we even know where they are at right now?
Good chance that they have been "rendered" to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Syria to be "questioned" already.

It has become very common to do this for years now. We all know that.

Don
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:08 PM
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13. "Because In GB You Can Lock People Up Without Charges."
How long was Padilla is prison in the US before actual charges were brought? I'm guessing that it was three years.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:30 PM
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16. Because it's a fake...just like
the diversion to Boston airport today...where exactly did the initial reporting of nail clips and 'AQ' on a piece of paper come from...

Until the thousands of media outlets that dutifully report this stuff, uncensored and unedited apparantly, start to expend equal diligence in tracking down these specious claims and start to ask questions -- then I will conclude that they are all these reports are bogus and the various Intel/security/government agents who are working behind the scenes are the real enemy. Pure and simple.
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