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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:03 AM
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Winger gasbag suggests "Muslim Only" airport lines as foil for terrorism
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How about Muslim only water fountains, ass? :eyes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/08/16/fox-news-airs-suggestion-_e_27366.html


Fox News Airs Suggestion for 'Muslim-Only' Airport Line

Newshounds | Posted Wednesday August 16, 2006 at 09:26 AM

Yesterday on Fox News' "Dayside," conservative radio host Mike Gallagher proposed that airports institute a "Muslims only" line for airport travelers during a segment Tuesday on racial profiling. Meta, that. From Newshounds, who "watch FOX so you don't have to":

"Dayside" co-host Juliet Huddy set up the debate by noting that all terrorists have been Muslim extremists, and Jerrick claimed that some people oppose racial profiling as "politically incorrect."

"It's not just a matter of political correctness, please," responded <constitutional lawyer Michael> Gross. "It's illegal, it's unconstitutional, unethical, immoral, it shouldn't be done. We do not in this country prejudge a person based upon their race, creed, color, country of national origin and it's wrong to do so and it addition it's not effective. It doesn't work. It actually perpetuates the problem. That is, it separates us."

Gallagher responded that Gross's statements were "absolutely absurd" and claimed that the Traffic Safety Administration is aggressively targeting uniformed members of the military. "Let's have a Muslim-only line," Gallagher said, as Gross started to talk.

Jerrick asked Gallagher to repeat what he said.

"It's time to have a Muslims check-point line in America's airports and have Muslims be scrutinized. You better believe it, it's time," Gallagher said, garnering tepid audience applause.


According to the Newshounds account, despite Gross' clarification above, the debate was framed as a "political correctness" issue rather than one of unconstitutionality.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:15 AM
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1. kick
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:15 AM
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2. I guess that means we'll have religion on our national IDs
Because there would be no other way to accomplish this plan.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:17 AM
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5. Assuming Muslims qualify for citizenship under this plan.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:15 AM
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3. How about no white males are allowed to rent trucks?
It'll stop the Timothy McVeigh's.

Or no priests are allowed in church where there are children?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:21 AM
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:27 AM
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12. How many IRA terrorists have their been?
How many Basque terrorists? How many radical Puerto Rican separatists?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:30 AM
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:34 AM
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18. What in the Constitution would permit security screeners at airports
to order all Muslims into a separate line?

Just because the last group that attacked Americans was Muslim, doesn't mean the next group of terrorists will be. White guys from Michigan attacked us before them. This kind of profiling is pure racism, if racism can be called pure.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:37 AM
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:40 AM
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24. The 14th Amendment forbids treating people differently according to race.
It doesn't say anything about whether the people in question are citizens or visitors. But many of the Muslims who you seem to think it would be okay to discriminate against at airport secrity checks are American citizens. Or do you think these lines should be reserved only for foreign born Muslim men?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:43 AM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:50 AM
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35. "Do your research."
"Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Do your research indeed.


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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:58 AM
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40. Thank you, sir.
:toast:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:05 PM
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44. Drat!
I thought you were the other poster, returning to back up his statements! :( :D

:toast:

Get the torches ready... prepare to burn Straw Man :D



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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:08 PM
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46. He darest not venture any further postings, methinks.
He doth reach the limit safety permits. ;)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:11 PM
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48. Too bad!
I had just sharpened my teeth for the occasion. :D



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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:13 PM
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50. Your first bite took off too much flesh, I'm guessing.
A direct hit to the vitals.

;)

:thumbsup:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:25 PM
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51. Bravo
now put jaws down...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:05 PM
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58. LOL! Actually, I think there IS a logically consistent canal to sneak thru
here...

I don't believe that the Constitution requires that foreigners be recognized as *people*. So - simply pass a law that non-Americans are not people, and then the 14th Amendment won't apply to them, and HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!


:rofl:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:02 PM
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43. Take your own advice, I advise.
;)
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:58 PM
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57. OMG, talk about making legal arguments without a clue
:rofl:
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elliswyatt Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:15 AM
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4. he is evil
even the retarded fox audience gave a "tepid" response? hahah
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:23 AM
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7. Can we have an "Assholes Only" line, too? He should have his own. - n/t
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:23 AM
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8. What if I'm a Christian of Middle-Eastern Decent????
For example, I moved here from Jordan when I was 15 years old with my family. We are Christians, and have lived in this country for 20 years. Do I need to take the "Muslim Only" Line, or will there be a "Christians with Dark Complexions" line???? :shrug:



P.S. Agent Mike, I'm just sighting an example. Don't worry, I am an American Born, White Male in my 30's. Just in case your "profiling" radar went off.
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:53 AM
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36. But if I look like a Muslim, how will they know ...
that I am not in the wrong line. Shall I tatoo a cross on my forehead. Remember, I have dark skin and a funny sounding name like Ahmed, but I am a Christian, so will that cause confusion.

Perhaps a simple solution would be for everyone to be forced to wear a patch on their clothing indicating religion. For example:
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:24 AM
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9. Why not?
They are going to get their own Beach's in France and Italy.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:58 PM
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56. Last time I checked, US laws do not apply to
what happens in France or Italy. BTW what is a Beach's?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:29 AM
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14. Are you Muslim?
What qualifies you to speak for them?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:37 AM
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19. I don't believe you.
Orthodox Jews and some ultra orthodox Christian sects also believe in segregation of the sexes. But they (and ultra orthodox Muslims) travel internationally on aircraft all the time.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:43 AM
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28. That you've read hundreds of interviews.
Are you suggesting that most Muslims view non-Muslims as "dirty filth?" Give me some concrete evidence that even one does. (And explain what's the difference between filth and dirty filth while you're at it. :eyes: )
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:57 AM
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38. I will. And you won't be able to come up with a single one.
Right?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:13 PM
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62. well, to be fair, it's damned difficult to post from beyond the grave
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 09:24 AM
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63. May he rest among freeps.
:cry:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:38 AM
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21. I've read plenty of interviews
with Christians talking about "dirty, filthy" homosexuals or Germans talking about "dirty, filthy jews" but that doesn't mean they're in the majority.

I have a born-again christian friend who uses the uses the words "dirty, filthy" to describe muslim countries.

For me anyone who uses those words is probably overcompensating for something. Loathing is often a sign of self-loathing.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:42 AM
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27. Not a whole culture - just individuals
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 11:44 AM by CJCRANE
as per my examples.

on edit: added "culture".

BY the way I am half white christian, half muslim arabic and most of my muslim cousins have married christian europeans. They also rely on european tourism so the attitude you espouse wouldn't get them very far.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:45 AM
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31. Read what I've said on edit!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:46 AM
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:48 AM
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34. It's not millions -
19 hijackers in America. 4 bombers in Britain.

150,000 American troops in Iraq. 50,000 to 100,000 Iraqi civilians killed. Who should be more scared.

Go read David Ray Griffin's "New Pearl Harbor" then you'll find out what this is all about.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:00 PM
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41. Hundred of interviews. Millions of people.
Very precise argument.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:05 PM
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59. I agree
millions of American Republican voters are responsible for all kinds of nasty problems.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:31 AM
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16. What about
non-practisinig muslims?

Lapsed muslims?

Apostate muslims?

People who look like "muslims" but are actually Brazilian (or Sikhs) or mixed race?

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:40 AM
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23. How about separate water fountains and bathrooms?
Jim Crow's back!


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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:42 AM
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26. Brilliant
You think they won't shave and change their name legally to Charles Thomas?

God I hate these fucking bozos. That guy should be massaged with a garden weasel for being that fucking stupid.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:55 AM
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37. We should have a toothless redneck line for them too.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:57 AM
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39. Seeing as there are white right-wing Christian terrorists, too
I suggest all us atheists be given the express line.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:06 PM
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45. Ha ha!
:spray:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:01 PM
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42. Blankes only?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:10 PM
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47. Tak! Hvordan står det til med deg?
:hi:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:29 PM
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53. I'm fine, thank you
:hi: A bit disconcerted by the last wave of terra, but otherwise fine. The world is mad, no?

Oh, and Brasil is playing Norway today, football. I've forgotten :-o
You do know their hellish statistics against Norway?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:50 PM
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54. Oh eehhh oh eh oh eh oh ehh, Brasil, Brasil!!!
:o









Desculpe meu amigo... sorry about that! :D

Yes, it seems as if just about every government on Earth has been taken over by alien lizards! :scared:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:54 PM
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55. Heeh-heh
Well, they do have collected some championships over the years, haven't they? ;-)

Don't worry, I'll win anyway - Brasil is of course one of my favs. And besides it's no shame being beaten by so good a team.
And if Brasil wins, Oslo is filled with samba, but if Norw. wins you only get to see a lot of drunk Norwegians, haha! :D
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:09 PM
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60. If Brasil wins, it's a 'win win!'
:D

You can get drunk AND samba with some VERY handsome folks! :toast:







:bounce: Oba! :bounce:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 03:02 PM
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61. Woohoo, nice samba, lol. It ended a draw: 1-1
Awright, it'll probably be both some samba and some beer ;-)

Have a nice one my friend, we must stop hijacking this thread now :D
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:12 PM
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49. Yeah, make them go to the back of the bus while
your at it and don't let them eat in restaurants with 'Murikans.

:sarcasm:
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:36 PM
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52. How do you say this?
Down the slippery slope without skis or snowboard.
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