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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:31 AM
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Bush is a brick (thick and stubborn as one) when it comes to Iraq
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 10:35 AM by BurtWorm
How did this statue get the reputation for being a "man of action"? The meeting with Iraq "experts" on Monday was apparently the policy equivalent of using bananas to loosen up the impacted intenstines of constipation sufferer :grr: :

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bush16aug16,1,4241763.story?coll=la-headlines-world

Bush Dismisses the Idea of Partitioning Iraq
President tells analysts dividing the country wouldn't end violence and indicates no policy changes are planned.
By Paul Richter and Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writers
August 16, 2006

WASHINGTON — President Bush told Middle East experts at a private meeting this week that a three-way division of Iraq would only worsen sectarian violence and was not an option for solving the country's problems, the analysts said Tuesday.

Rejecting a policy alternative that has been gaining support in the U.S. and abroad, Bush told the experts that dividing Iraq would be "like pouring oil on fire," said Eric M. Davis of Rutgers University, one of the experts who met with the president Monday over Texas brisket and iced tea at the Pentagon.

The experts said in interviews that Bush signaled that he intended to make no policy changes in Iraq, despite warnings from military leaders and election-year arguments from Democrats that the war is a drain on resources and a distraction from the administration's campaign against terrorism.

Although only a minority has been in favor of dividing Iraq into Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish sections since the 2003 invasion, the unrelenting pace of sectarian killings and a stalled reconstruction effort have sparked rethinking among many U.S. officials, their allies and Iraqis....

Reuel Marc Gerecht, a Mideast analyst at American Enterprise Institute, said Bush asserted that the partition idea was "not even a starter," and that he also made it clear that "as long as he's president, we're in Iraq."

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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:36 AM
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1. I thought Iraq had an elected government. Would not be their decision to
make? If so, does Bush even bother to even pretend they really have their own government.

I could be wrong on this. Maybe the US, as the conquers, have a dictatorial say in their government until we decide not to.

Any clarification on this?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:43 AM
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2. The US, as conquering power, should certainly be able to muster some
influence with its puppets in Baghdad. If partition would quell the violence and return the area to a modicum of peace, it should be encouraged. The matter, of course, should ultimately be in the hands of the representatives of the Iraqi people; but the US and as many other international observers should be on hand to offer whatever material assistance is required to bring the change about.

That said, I don't know if partition really is such a good answer to the problem, given how thorny regional autonomy within a federal system is, especially for the Sunnis who would be left with the least oil-rich geography. But "staying the course" is no kind of answer at all. And that's precisely what Bush intends to "do," if such passivity can be called "doing" anything.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 12:18 PM
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4. To 'stay the course' of 'fabricating' more chaos, more anger, more
'terrorists' and thus, more fear for them to 'gain' from is exactly what Bush and his PNAC handlers wanted right-on, from the day of their planned 'controlled demolition' (which "changed everything") until the last day (if ever) he'll be pResident (and beyond).

Everything else they say ("bring peace using endless wars" & "bring democracy where there were none") and don't say (destroying democracy at home) are just tools for them to divide and conquer, for the sake of grabbing as much power as their greed dictates them.

Is there any more evidence than this article clearly provides: This insane Bush cabal has no intention of reducing the anger to eliminate the 'terrorism' they seek to steadily gain from.

In reality: They want more terrorism, not less!

(And R being quite successful at that since 5 years.)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:47 AM
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3. "as long as he's president, we're in Iraq."
If he keeps this up, there we be an impeachment for sure.
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