I'm so sickof all the killing

[catmandu57]

everywhere, for whatever reason. Killing for religious difference, ideology, or just plain GREED. It's just so wrong that we turn to violence instead of talking.

We've failed.

[JuniperLea]

1. There is nothing civilized

About this civilization.

[CrispyQ]

2. The thing that hit me hardest

is the idea that you would call a ceasefire for a future time. When you agree to it, why not immediately?

The violence is overwhelming. I can hardly stand to keep aware.

[catmandu57]

3. It just goes on and on

Sometime people just have to say enough, let's put down the gun and start over.

[whistle]

4. Sorry, but it is the collective and full intensions of Dick Cheney,

...Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other neoconservatives as well as George W. Bush to exterminate 90% of all uman life on this planet through the use of "total war" and "creative destruction" as stated in the PNAC document of 1997.

<snip>
" Perle is chairman of the powerful Defence Policy Board at the Pentagon, the author of the insane policies of 'total war' and 'creative destruction'. The latter is designed to subjugate finally the Middle East, beginning with the $90bn invasion of Iraq. Perle helped to set up another crypto-fascist group, the Project for the New American Century. Other founders include Vice-President Cheney, the defence secretary Rumsfeld and deputy defence secretary Paul Wolfowitz. The institute's 'mission report', Rebuilding America's Defences: strategy, forces and resources for a new century, is an unabashed blueprint for world conquest. It is vitally important that we understand their goals and the degree of their ruthlessness. In 1946, Justice Robert Jackson, chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials, said: 'The very essence of the Nuremberg charter is that individuals have international duties which transcend national obligations of obedience imposed by the state.' With an attack on Iraq almost a certainty, the millions who filled London and other capitals on the weekend of 15-16 February, and the millions who cheered them on, now have these transcendent duties."

Disobey by John Pilger
Dissident Voice, March 13, 2003

"The Project for the New American Century seeks to establish what they call 'Pax Americana' across the globe. Essentially, their goal is to transform America, the sole remaining superpower, into a planetary empire by force of arms. A report released by PNAC in September of 2000 entitled 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' codifies this plan, which requires a massive increase in defense spending and the fighting of several major theater wars in order to establish American dominance. The first has been achieved in Bush's new budget plan, which calls for the exact dollar amount to be spent on defense that was requested by PNAC in 2000. Arrangements are underway for the fighting of the wars.... The first step towards the establishment of this Pax Americana is, and has always been, the removal of Saddam Hussein and the establishment of an American protectorate in Iraq. The purpose of this is threefold: 1) To acquire control of the oilheads so as to fund the entire enterprise; 2) To fire a warning shot across the bows of every leader in the Middle East; 3) To establish in Iraq a military staging area for the eventual invasion and overthrow of several Middle Eastern regimes, including some that are allies of the United States... Cheney became involved with PNAC officially in 1997, while still profiting from deals between Halliburton and Hussein. One year later, Cheney and PNAC began actively and publicly agitating for war on Iraq. They have not stopped to this very day.... France and Germany do not oppose Bush because they are cowards, or because they enjoy the existence of Saddam Hussein. France and Germany stand against the Bush administration because they intend to stop this Pax Americana in its tracks if they can. They have seen militant fascism up close and personal before, and wish never to see it again. Would that we Americans could be so wise."

William Rivers Pitt, 27 February 2003
New York Times best-selling author of two books - 'War On Iraq' and 'The Greatest Sedition is Silence'

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/PNAC.htm


<snip for>........The economist Joseph Schumpeter is revered by many on the Right. An important part of Schumpeterian theory is what he called "creative destruction," which essentially posits that capitalism is an organic, evolutionary process by which innovation destroys stagnation and inefficiency. It's somewhat analogous to a forest fire that clears old or dead vegetation so new growth can replace it. I'm a Schumpeter fan. (Unfortunately---and this is the basis of my criticism of the Federal Reserve---there's no place for Schumpeter in the nanny state, where malinvestment is never cleansed and inefficient giants never die; they just get fresh infusions of liquidity from the printing press.)

Here's the problem: Schumpeter has been co-opted by some on the Right as intellectual scaffolding for a geopolitical agenda. It's not a coincidence that Larry Kudlow gleefully invokes Schumpeter and "creative destruction" one moment, then urges viewers to "have faith in Israel" the next. Kudlow's not alone. In his book The War Against The Terror Masters, Michael Ledeen writes..."

http://cunningrealist.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_cunningrealist_archive.html

<also see for many other links>
http://www.brusselstribunal.org/resources.htm

[catmandu57]

5. These people haven't a soul

I am heartsick, totally and truly heartsick, every day it's a fresh atrocity. There are way more of us than there are of these monsters, how do we use that? I don't know, marches even worldwide marches of millions of people don't work.
if I knew the way all of this would stop tomorrow and everyone all over the world wouldn't have to live in fear that someone would bomb, shoot, or kill them in any way, and everyone would have what they need.

[whistle]

10. Revolution is one possible way, one like they had to overthrow Czarist

...Russia.

<snip>
Reclaiming America Last Updated: Dec 31st, 2005 - 13:52:10

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21st Century American Revolution, Part 1 of a 3-part series
By Michael Hasty, Online Journal Columnist
Nov 25, 2004, 14:45

If there were any doubts remaining that the United States of America is no longer a functioning democracy, those doubts disappeared in the presidential election of 2004. The uncomfortably open-ended question we are left with is: where do we go from here?

Those among us who have managed to weave our way through the minefields of media disinformation, to a commonsense understanding of reality -- some people call us the “reality-based community” -- find ourselves in a situation that is unprecedented in American history. That is, we are the first generation of Americans since the nation’s founding who do not have the fundamental tools of democracy -- a free press, and a fair vote -- to effect policy change.

The dangers we face now cannot be overstated. At the risk of repeating myself, let me amplify on a point I made in a previous column:

A number of commentators have noticed the disturbing parallels between the regimes of George W. Bush and Adolph Hitler. (Wayne Madsen, in particular, has done some excellent analysis on this point.) But it is more critical at this time, given the historical trends, to focus on the constituencies that elevated both of these two men to power. <more>

http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_200.shtml

<link to part 2>
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_201.shtml

<link to part 3>
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_202.shtml

[Bigmack]

6. Especially when war..

is the most expensive and messy method.

It's almost as if people in power want other people to die to somehow validate the control of the powerful over others.

[TahitiNut]

7. It's also very profitable for SOME people

... especially when there is no government prohibition against war profiteering whatsoever. Indeed, we have a regime in DC who've blessed war profiteering with the most favorable tax rates in the last 100 years in this country.

[catmandu57]

8. We've blown 307 billion in Iraq so far

killed hundreds of thousands, the Lebanese infrastructure is ruined (again), and for what? To make some greedy bastards richer? Shit do do plan on taking this to the grave with them?

[The2ndWheel]

9. But without war, there would be no fight for peace

Which is why you can't get rid of war if you want peace. They must co-exist with each other.

I see it as a two-sided scale, 0% to 100%. Existence has a balance, and everything lives with its opposite somewhere in the middle of that scale. The closer you get to 100%, on either side, the more likely things are to collapse. So the more war there is, eventually things will settle down. The more peace there is, eventually things are going to get rattled. Life and death. Up and down. Male and female. Black and white. Existence is a struggle against itself, and there isn't much we can do about that. Opposites must co-exist. If they don't, and one side gets close to 100%, things have a way of balancing out.

Now, if we ever did actually get to 100% of anything, the universe would probably collapse.