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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:34 AM
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America: George W Bush is the third greatest president in history!
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 09:38 AM by HamdenRice
A theme underlying many posts lately has been the capacity of the average American to absorb and process information. The issue has been raised repeatedly because so many Americans still believe that Sadam had something to do with 9/11, and that weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. Posters have also questioned what is going on the minds of the 36% or so of Americans who still support Bush.

Well, my friends, let's get in the way back machine and travel back to early 2002, just months after 9/11.

At the time, ABC News sponsored a poll asking Americans who were the greatest presidents in American history. George W. Bush was third:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/poll020221_president.html

Presidential Standings
George W. Bush Debuts at Third on Nation's Greatest-President List

By Gary Langer

N E W Y O R K, Feb. 18 — George W. Bush takes the bronze in his debut on the nation's greatest-president list, boosted by a strong vote from the Republican judges. A more venerable Republican, Abraham Lincoln, wins the gold, with the silver medal to John F. Kennedy.

An ABCNEWS.com poll finds those are the standings when Americans are asked to name the country's greatest president. Aside from Bush's sudden arrival, the biggest change is a 10-point drop in Ronald Reagan's position, from first place on Presidents Day last year, when 18 percent picked him, to a tie with Bill Clinton and Franklin D. Roosevelt for fourth place this year.

Reagan lost ground as Republicans in particular cited Bush, who's been riding an extraordinary wave of public approval for his response to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. Among Republicans, Bush finishes numerically first as the greatest president. Among independents he's third, and among Democrats he's fifth.

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Basically this showed that American have no historical consciousness and basically any president they could remember -- and they remembered recent presidents -- got a vote. I like the Big Dog as much as the next DUer, but come on -- was Clinton greater than George Washington or Thomas Jefferson? Three of the four most recent presidents were on the list -- the exception being the hapless Poppy, who is probably better remembered by the history-challenged more for throwing up on the Japanese prime minister than his diplomacy.

And John F. Kennedy was certainly charismatic and showed great promise, but besides being assassinated, he hardly had time to make any grand historical contributions.

My, things have changed. I don't know what his greatness ratings would be now, but at least we know his approval ratings have him hovering around Nixon territory.

PS, on edit: If you Google George Bush greatest president, 95% of the results are sarcastic, ironic uses of the term. Almost no one except the truly brainwashed even pretend to believe this now.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:37 AM
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1. I think he is the second greatest...
since he has readjusted the scale for suckiness, pretty much all of the other Presidents are now in a virtual tie for first greatest President.

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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:41 AM
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2. we all know what he is now... even sensible repukes agree...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:35 AM
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11. They would've known it earlier if we had a real media. Post 9-11 newsmedia
spent 23 hrs a day telling the American people they were so lucky to have George Bush in office - God put him there - Tim Russert made sure everyone agreed that God wanted George Bush to distract from the fact that the GOP controlled Supreme Court actually put the dictatortot in office.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:42 AM
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3. It's also the reason alot of "brave" Democrats chose to NOT RUN in 2004.
The ones that so many here call real fighters.

The REAL fighters ran and stuck their necks out in 2003 and 4. And if the GOP didn't control both the broadcast media AND the voting machines, a whole slew of those fighting Dems would be ensconced in the WH and throughout the cabinet and government today.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:44 AM
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5. that heading almost made me
puke.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:42 AM
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4. Trust me, when his legacy is realized, that list will change. nt
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:55 AM
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6. I thought he was the 43rd best
In 2009 he'll drop to 44th.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:56 AM
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7. I'm not even willing to rank him that high...I'd put Dewey as 43rd.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:05 AM
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9. From 2002??? isn't this 2006???
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:40 AM
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12. The OP says, 'back in 2002' nt
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:04 AM
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8. Those stats are horrifying!
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:29 AM
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10. What! We've only had three presidents?
I thought we had more. I must've lost count!?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:45 AM
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13. That was then
THIS IS NOW
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 10:46 AM
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14. You've got to be shitting me.
What a crock o shit.
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