Bush is a Yalie and also an MBA from Harvard but talks like he

[opihimoimoi]

is still in High School...and sometimes, in Jr Prep....

Having the CHEERS Syndrome, he gads about like a drunk in a bar...huggin, kissin and rubbin shoulders even..

His command of the English Language leaves me questioning his education and the value of his degrees.

The Pubs see this man as a Hero? WTF is wrong with this Picture?

[MADem]

1. When your family doles out libraries and hockey rinks and gyms

to institutions of higher learning, you tend to always get C's, at the very worst, even if you do nothing at all.

[opihimoimoi]

4. But then,,,,look at what happened...the whole stinking mess revealed

[UDenver20]

27. Okay... so... about being a C-student MBA

Do you guys know how hard it is to get a C in any MBA class?

Seriously...

Most MBA programs, although extremely rigorous, are ranked in some way by their own GPA stats. Stupid, I know. But that's the way it is.

As such, some no longer use the traditional A-F grading method. But, for those that do - you pretty much have to piss off the whole world, miss 80% of the classes, and die during the final to get anything less than a C.

[MADem]

35. They do 'boast' a 99 percent graduation rate, which isn't really a

recommendation, IMO.

From what one of his professors says, he was an asshole and a blowhard of the first order, and apparently not too intellectually rigorous with himself or others. For those who have forgotten, let's review:

...Yoshihiro Tsurumi, an avowed opponent of Bush’s current views and policies who was a visiting associate professor of international business at HBS between 1972 and 1976, said Bush was among 85 students he taught one year in a required first-year course. In the class on “Environment Analysis for Management,” incorporating elements of macroeconomics, industrial policy and international business, Tsurumi said students discussed and debated case studies for 90 minutes several times a week.

Tsurumi—now a professor of international business at Baruch College in the City University of New York—said he remembers the future president as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.

Thirty years after teaching the class, Tsurumi said the twenty-something Bush’s statements and behavior—“always very shallow”—still stand out in his mind.

“Whenever just bumped into me, he had some flippant statement to make,” said Tsurumi when reached at his home in Scarsdale, N.Y. “The comments he made were revealing of his prejudice.”

The White House did not reply to requests for comment on Bush’s time at HBS.

Tsurumi said he particularly recalls Bush’s right-wing extremism at the time, which he said was reflected in off-hand comments equating the New Deal of the 1930s with socialism and the corporation-regulating Securities and Exchange Commission with “an enemy of capitalism.”

“I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor because they’re lazy,” Tsurumi said.

Tsurumi also said Bush displayed a sense of arrogance about his prominent family, including his father, former U.S. President George H.W. Bush.

“ didn’t stand out as the most promising student, but...he made it sure we understood how well he was connected,” Tsurumi said. “He wasn’t bashful about how he was being pushed upward by Dad’s connections.”

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=503181

Edit: poor spelling

[Elwood P Dowd]

2. College presidents enjoy life just as much

as retired Texas Air National Guard officers.

[opihimoimoi]

3. Damn, what a system to behold...allowing LOLOs to enter higher office

Incredulous

[Submariner]

5. Those are both "Legacy Degrees"

given to the stupid offspring of the rich. I don't have the link but his Harvard professor stated Bush was in the lowerst 10% of the class. Bush is a moron.

[ProfessorGAC]

9. During The HEIGHT Of Legacy Grade Inflation, Too!

The Ivy league admitted, en masse, back in the 70's, that from the late 50's to the early 70's, they had a grotesque issue with legacy grade inflation. They changed all kinds of legacy policies in around 1978 at Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Brown, and another school (i forget which) so that legacies actually had to pass muster or it was "see ya". They were trying to stay ahead of the affirmative action curve at the time, and were trying to open up seats.

The Professor

[NewJeffCT]

11. I think also

I saw the criteria for admittance to Ivy League schools back then (sorry, I don't have the link) that really heavily weighted the fact that he had had relatives that graduated from Yale - Poppy - and also donated money to the school. It was a much greater weight than test scores, if I recall.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. There Is No Doubt

The change was revolutionary in the 70's, when they raised the bar. Had Silverspoon been trying to do this in the late 70's or early 80's, it would have been "sad, too bad".
The Professor

[TahitiNut]

24. I seriously doubt Junior did a lick of real academic work.

As a late-60s college undergraduate and graduate student in the early 70s, I became painfully aware of the number of rich kids who hired better students to write their papers and take their exams. There was a "draft effect" in those days -- the better students needed tuition money and the moneyed students needed academic 'support' to get passing grades. "Professional college students" were, until about 1972, able to avoid the draft. If they could do it until they were 26 years old, they escaped. The 'market' was made. Not only did Smirk get admitted based solely on his 'legacy' status (UofT refused him), there's not a shred of doubt in my feeble mind that he had others do his academic work. Most of the faculty turned a blind eye on it in those days - if only because the impoverished students needed the gigs. When even Junior's connections and money didn't get him into UofT (or any other graduate school), the strings were pulled to get him into the TANG, with the least qualifications of anyone at that time.

[opihimoimoi]

30. You Sir, do not possess a feeble mind....the FEEBLE MIND sits in the OO

oval office

The rick kids and the athletes often get free rides...

College grads iliterate? They exist.

College grads dumb and dumber? all over the place...prolly about 15.7 %

Thanks for the post....

[theanarch]

51. i generally agree with the main points of your post...

...but would point out a few discrepancies. The deferment for graduate students was terminated in 1967 or '68; the deferment for college students in 1970. Every deferment a piece of draft-bait got extended their eligability to be drafted, up to a maximum of 36 years of age (maybe 37--been so long i'd have to dig out my old Tatum and Tuchinsky to look it up). One thing about Junior's TANG "service"--not only was he legacy-leaped over some 70 more qualified applicants to get into the Guard, not only was he allowed to be AWOL most of the time, not only was he separated from service prematurely, he was never properly trained as an officer either--went from boot camp to pilot school to AWOL to proud "i served my country in uniform during war" vet without ever passing through OCS inbetween. Was never instructed in command procedures or responsibilities...which explains quite a lot about his callous lack of concern for the troops he so carelessly wastes on the most expensive of unworthy ventures and lost causes.

[opihimoimoi]

57. Damn, ya would think the Presidential Filter needs some fixin...the HOLES

in the filter are too big Large....Crappy Guys like him are able to sneak through quite easily...

[opihimoimoi]

13. The Prof was being too KIND...more like the last in the Class

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Gee, Nobody Has Ever Said That About Me Before

"Too kind"??? I'm unfamiliar with that descriptoin.
The Professor

[opihimoimoi]

16. I meant the Prof at Harvard, sorry

[MADem]

36. See post 35 upthread, there it is in all its glory! NT

[ikojo]

6. I said something like this to a conservative co-worker

and he actually had to admit that Bush did not have a command of the English language even though he had access to the best education money can buy in this country. I think that's the problem...he never was expected to do well because he knew that his family's money would buy whatever it was he needed..a diploma from Andover Academy..bought...a genleman's C (which would be a D or F at any other university) at Yale...purchased...the Harvard MBA...bought and paid for all by mommy and daddy!!

Affirmative Action for rich spoiled kids.

[opihimoimoi]

15. The Fruits from these LOOPHOLES are Lemons out there, one of which

has become our President.

We got a Lemon President...all we get are sour decisions.....

We should turn him in and claim our money back....

[DemonFighterLives]

7. His degrees are only on paper

No well studied person would act the fool that he does.
And not to say he isn't dumb, but when he was running for TX Gov. he actually sounded like his brain was hitting on all cylinders.
The coke and alcohol have taken their toll on the frat boy.

[opihimoimoi]

17. Drug induced brain damage only gets worse with time...

Hitler was the same way...a Doctor Morell gave the dude 27 different drugs during a 12 year period...including ICE, Opiates, meds for syphilis.

Hitler was a disaster during his last 3 years...fucked it all up for his Generals.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Listening to him speak is like hearing fingernails on a blackboard

You just want to cringe and turn away.

[opihimoimoi]

21. I can only wonder what his SPEECH 101, 233, and 316 Proffessors haveto say

[zbdent]

10. You know, money can buy you grades

I mean, how many rich kids got decent grades hiring other people to do their term papers and tests?

These days, it's harder to plagiarize, since the internet can search out "similar" papers ...

[AlCzervik]

18. "Gentleman's C" does at Yale does not get you into Harvard Business school

my niece had 4.0 gpa at an all girls high school, scored 1540 on her SAT's and she got put on the wait list at Harvard and Yale.

[SharonAnn]

34. It did back in those days. Remember, he had lots of connections.

[AlCzervik]

45. thats what i mena, my niece has no connections so it was tough luck and

hurry up and wait for her.

[Lisa]

52. your niece is a thousand times more deserving than Bush!

I bet she will be far more productive (and do much less damage) than Georgie -- regardless of which schools she attends. I can't help but feel a bit sorry for Andover, Yale, and Harvard. They seemed to have zero impact on shaping Bush's intellect. I work at a much less famous college, and I know that the staff are very happy when a student not only learns something, but goes on to make the world even a little better, by applying it in a positive way. We like to be optimistic and hope that there is no such thing as "wasted" education, even if it takes years to make any difference ... but in Bush's case, alas ...

My co-worker's niece was accepted to Harvard Business School, and she was elated ... she really worked her butt off to get high grades.

[Hubert Flottz]

19. Yes he's a dummy but...

He's the VERY BEST that the GOP had to offer the country.

[opihimoimoi]

23. If Bush is their Best...Its time to change gears and fire the GOP

They knowingly supported this dude, cheated for him, lied for him, stole for him....and now, they see the damage... Too little too late....

[napi21]

20. He wasn't always like this! Back when he ran for Tx. Gov.

he was a very articulate speaker! Even David Gergen talked about that last night on The Colbert Report.

It appears something has happened to him. I don't know if it's drugs, age, some illness, or some staged gimick that Karl though would make he more likeable to the base. Check out some of the videos from his campaign for Gov, and you'll see.

[Hubert Flottz]

22. He needs to lay off of the glue bag!

Or the Sterno...

[opihimoimoi]

26. He needs a CAT SCAN to find out where them Holes are and fill it with

concrete or sumpthin

His Brain cavities must be of the Hummer size. I suspect Meth Brain Damage...MBD

[Hubert Flottz]

31. Barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr must have drank Ripple by the gallon when the

Chimp was in the chute! She must have dropped shrub on his head every day!

[opihimoimoi]

33. Them Nurses know the real story: "I won't tell if you won't tell"

re: dropping the dude on his noggin.

"OOOPs"

"Damn, ya did it again?"

"I know but you were supposed to catch him...."

[Auntie Bush]

25. That's why he's leaving so many kids behind.

Doesn't want anyone smarter than him and a whole generation of dumb kids who don't have the intelligence to vote in their own favor or see through his bullshit. BULLSHIT...there I said it...up front and personal! Good for me...I'm growing balls!

[opihimoimoi]

28. Even Mongo from Blazing Saddles is smarter than Bush

The GOP foisted this wreck on us,,, they gatta pay...Vote BLUE...the DEMs give way better odds for an improvement.

[Justice Is Comin]

29. He had to be cleaning the bathrooms.

[opihimoimoi]

32. More likely cleaning his pipes

[patricia92243]

37. I have always assumed he cheated his way through. This would be in line w

with what we know about his outlook on life - feelings of entitlement, etc.

[opihimoimoi]

38. His demeanor, his thinking, speeches/comments, and actions all point

to a very shallow person....with a very poor information Base.

The man knows shit, nada....

[Swamp Rat]

40. and meth use

[opihimoimoi]

44. That would explain things big time

What a time for the President of the USA to be a DUMB DUDE with a Comp'd Brain

The DECIDER is NOT in the Best Interest for America

Not even close

[KamaAina]

39. Bush** is what we Yalies call a "legacy"

that is, his sole qualification for admission was that his surname is "Bush".

In fact, right around the time he left, Yale toughened its admissions standards for legacies. It still doesn't hurt to be a Bush, or Bass or whatever, but now you also have to prove that you yourself have something on the ball.

I can just hear the deans discussing the change: "Dammit, we can't ever let anything like this happen again! I don't care if his name is Bush, we will not have students who wear lampshades on their head to class!"

edit: Freeper-like 1 for ! :dunce:

[Disturbed]

41. Busholini is a simplistic Silverspoon Sociopath.

It is obvious that he has some form of brain damage. He isn't acting the bumbling fool. He isn't stupid. His IQ was average but now has deteriorated due to ongoing nuero damage.

[opihimoimoi]

43. IQ in the range of a 5th grader

[opihimoimoi]

42. Get them to Take BACK THE DAMNED DEGREE

He gives YALE a very BAD NAME.

He cheapens the whole process...what a troglodyte

[Lisa]

53. I bet a lot of their grads cringe, when * prances around in that blue robe

It used to be a sign of great accomplishment -- a Yale doctorate -- and it's sad to see him cheapening it. They should take back both his undergrad diploma and his honorary degree!

A former prof of mine who used to arrange convocations for another university says she suspects he absconded with that robe. Standard procedure is for honorary degree recipients to keep the special hood, but give back the gown after the ceremony!

[opihimoimoi]

56. That would be him to abscond with the robe. I would not be suprised.

[Lisa]

46. and then he complained Yale "went downhill since they admitted women"

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/incidents.phtml?page=3

"When did you graduate?" Bush asked her, as she recalls. She told him. That's when Bush told her that Yale "went downhill since they admitted women."

"I said, 'Excuse me?'" Novick says. "I thought he was kidding. But he didn't seem to be kidding. I said, 'What do you mean?'"

Bush replied that "something had been lost" when women were fully admitted to Yale in 1969, that fraternities were big when he'd been there, providing a "great camaraderie for the men." But that went out the window when women were allowed in, Bush said.

"He said something like, 'Women changed the social dynamic for the worse,'" she says. "I was so stunned, shocked and insulted, I didn't know what to say."



Note that Bush's daughter Barbara went to Yale. I wonder if he ever retracted his remarks?

[opihimoimoi]

49. Women was a threat......to gay men they are......

[Lisa]

47. Bush in class at Harvard

http://www.bettybowers.com/drudge.html



It could have been worse -- he was known to spit chewing tobacco into a paper cup, at the back of the room.

[happydreams]

48. He made a Faustian bargain....

a pact with Skull and Bones when his coke snorting, booze guzzling days caught up with him and he couldn't cut the mustard legitimately. He suffers from drug induced dementia IMHO.

[opihimoimoi]

50. Whatever he is suffering from....its gone to his HEAD...this man cannot

think

His pathetic answers to serious questions reveal a LACKING...the man is sick...he is LAME......

OUR GREAT NATION....in the Hands of a DUMBO....OMG....what have we done to deserve this?

Was it the Investment in IGNORANCE?

Oh My.......and we were here to let it happen....Damn.....

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

54. "He makes stupid people think they're as intelligent as him."

(an approximated quote from Joe Dante's satirical horror, Homecoming.)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0643105/

[opihimoimoi]

55. Thats about it I suppose....He has the CHEERs SYNDROME

Hugs Kisses, Back rubs, same ole stories, same ole crap, same ole jokes, same awful mannerisms....loud, talking with food in mouth chamber, and avoiding serious talk of any kind.

He is not supposed to be in the Oval Office...he cheapens the place as he cheapens YALE

[ComerPerro]

58. hes a moron who bought his degrees.

[opihimoimoi]

59. YUP.....most likely Poppy bought the sheepskins....a total waste of good

money

Bush the Younger learned nothing...

[Hubert Flottz]

60. Bush wouldn't even make a good dog catcher.

All the dogs would hike up and piss all over that dumb Bush...

I've seen oysters who were far brighter than Prince George the Chicken Hearted...

Too many ONE WAY acid trips in his school years...The mind is fried.

[opihimoimoi]

61. He cannot ride a bike, a horse, nor a Segway...He has twoubles

sitting on a sofa, eating pretzels, and opening giant Chinese doors.

He canardly hold his dog without dropping the poor fella.

He cannot sit with other world leaders and discuss serious matters without revealing he is unable to.


Yup, Fried Mind over Easy....

[Hubert Flottz]

62. He couldn't put a cob handle on a file...

And he's the Top GOPer!

[opihimoimoi]

63. I think Laura has to tutor him repeatedly ..this is why he talks the way

he does...like he is the teacher and we are the kids. he has a condenscending way about him....

He be the Top GOPer and if dat is the best dey got...America is in deep doooooo

[triguy46]

64. His falsity is best described as....

All hat, no cattle.

[opihimoimoi]

66. Some in Crawford call him WINDSHEILD COWBOY

[Virginia Dare]

65. Yes, he has the best resume money can buy....n/t