Just saw a mixed race couple with a One Man/One Woman sticker on their car

[eeyore]

What the hell is wrong these people?

I just saw a mixed race couple sporting a One Man/One Woman anti-gay marriage sticker on their car. Do they have no sense of the cognitive dissonance in them making that statement?

There are certainly many parts of this country where that couple would not be welcome. Yet somehow they are perfectly comfortable saying that marriage for them is a-ok, but they are vocally against gay marriage.

It really amazes me how religion can encourage people to discriminate against others who are not so unlike themselves.

Who would Jesus hate?

:banghead:

[NewJeffCT]

1. It wasn't that long ago...

that some states had laws against inter-racial marriage. I think those laws were finally struck down in the 60s?

How soon we forget.

[Ecumenist]

26. Hey, as one half of a

mixed marriage, I can tell you that anti-miscegenation laws were on the books, at least here in California until 1972. Most of these people are completely ignorant of the history of the freedom for people like me and many members of my family to marry, (The Lovings vs Virginia) and that there were laws that not only outlawed it, it criminalised it.

[demigoddess]

37. wasn't there a law against an interracial couple from crossing state lines

together because they might be eloping to a state that might allow them to marry? I remember that. And I remember when a birth control pill would not be prescribed to a woman because she might be lying about being married and they did not want it prescribed to a single woman. They practically asked to see the marriage license at the doctors!! Been there!! some of us older ladies could tell stories.

[NewJeffCT]

41. I believe you are correct

about crossing state lines to marry.

I know Griswold vs Connecticut overturned Connecticut's condom law in the 60s

[LeftyMom]

2. Religion is a fine tool to keep people from thinking.

I'm guessing that's a big part of it. :shrug:

[eeyore]

12. As an escaped Catholic, I will confirm your statement.

I was way too free-thinking and accepting of others to survive in the church my family attended when I was a kid.

:toast:

[LeftyMom]

14. That was my experience too

I had no intention of being a capable young woman 6 days a week and a second class citizen sundays. It wasn't until after I left that I noticed the other indignities.

[im10ashus]

35. An escaped Catholic!

:rofl:

OK, you just trumped my long-standing oath that I am a recovered Catholic. I like yours better.

:yourock:

[eeyore]

38. As they say in the program, you'll never be "recovered"....

You'll always be "in recovery". ;)

I did escape, but I think they had me pegged as a flight risk from day one.

[im10ashus]

39. "...they had me pegged as a flight risk from day one"

That will teach you to ask questions. B-)

[eleny]

3. How do you know they were married?

Sorry, but the question came to mind.

[eeyore]

7. I don't know they are married....

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can only assume that they think it would their marriage would be right with God.

Maybe they believe that their own relationship is sinful, yet they are okay with that. :crazy:

[eleny]

17. And maybe they're coworkers

[eeyore]

23. Pretty lovey-dovey co-workers if so.

They were definitely a couple, and they had the air of a long-term couple, not a quick and dirty fling.

[Richard Steele]

4. Cognitive Dissonance is a REQUIREMENT for membership in the FundyClub

You can't be SANE and agree to their agenda- you just CAN'T.

[slackmaster]

5. IMO a lot of people still view sexual orientation as a choice

Whereas nobody thinks of skin color as chosen. There is not necessarily any cognitive dissonance in the situation described in the OP if people think that people who are attracted to members of the same sex do so by an act of conscious, willful choice. Rather, they are misinformed.

[eeyore]

10. I thnk that's a very popular opinion with African American evangelicals...

I know that many Christian black people are very offended when racism is equated with homophobia.

[stillcool]

6. they borrowed the car...

or they're transporting (?)...

[liberaldemocrat7]

8. Any class of people has those who oppose the conventional view.

Closeted gays like Rep. David Dreier and Ken Mehlman do not hesistate to throw the poor under the bus.

Gays get to act as mean spirited as any other class of people despite their oppression as a class of people.

African Americans like Clarence Thomas, Ward Connerly, Alan Keyes, Condaleeza Rice get to sell out the people of their class of people with brown and black skin and throw the poor under the bus.

20 percent of my people, the Jews also don't exercise compassion and caucus with the Nazi party here in America. Ken Mehlman appears a two class traitor. Jack Abramoff appears a class traitor to my people as well as William Kristol and David Horowitz.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt got called a traitor to his class and thankfully so. He saved America in the 20th century and looms as important as Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

[k_jerome]

9. So why do you feel a large percentage of african amercans...

oppose gay marriage? Is it because they are deluded?

[eeyore]

11. They oppose gay marriage for the same reason white people do...

They are completely brainwashed by the same fable that they believe tells them it's okay to hate other people in their God's name.

[k_jerome]

13. Do you feel that opposition to gay marriage...

is equal to hatred of gays?

[keepCAblue]

16. Do you feel that opposition to inter-racial marriage...

is equal to hatred of blacks?

[k_jerome]

22. I believe that many african americans...

feel that the civil rights struggle is completely different and take offense at those that equate it to the struggle for marriage rights of gays.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. Oh, there are probably some that feel that way.

They're wrong though.

If they're against gay marriage than to hell with 'em.

[k_jerome]

28. i think it is a much larger percentage than some...

a Gallup poll taken in 2004 found that over 50% of african americans polled favor a constitutional ban on gay marriage. Exit polls showed that a higher percentage of african americans voted for prop 22 in CA than whites or asian americans.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. The percentage doesn't matter for shit.

Back in the seventies there was some 80+% of white people against interracial marriage.

To this day it's still around 30%. Probably the same 30% still supporting Bush.

Are you against gay marriage yourself and feel the need to push it off onto African Americans? I'm wondering. Because you're the sort of person that posts David Duke material on liberal message boards and uses it as an example of how racist liberals are.

[k_jerome]

30. I find it interesting that a race, or a large percentage of a race...

is painted as bigoted or deluded or just plain hateful because they oppose an issue that another group supports. Last I checked, african americans vote Democrat in very large numbers. Now it seems they are being attacked, as are xtians, jews (zionists) or whichever group it is vogue to single out today.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. LOL

uh huh.

[ruggerson]

42. Get off it

to paraphrase Gertrude Stein (a fairly smart lesbian) - bigotry is bigotry is bigotry.

If you oppose equal, civil rights for one sector of the population, you are a bigot.

Period.

No amount of rationalization or parsing of the races will change it.

[keepCAblue]

43. No one here is *attacking* any one group...

...I'm merely expressing abject disappointment in those members of one class of minority who, although having themselves been the victims of discrimination, refuse to acknowledge, validate or empathize with gays and lesbians who are now (and always have been) facing the same indignity and oppression which they once faced as second-class citizens. I feel the same abject disappointment in any member of a minority, regardless of race, ethnicity or religion, who likewise refuses to recognize the constitutional rights of any minority class but their own.

[eeyore]

25. I know that to be the case.

And they are bigots nonetheless.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Yes.

The same way that opposition to interracial marriage was basically the same old hatred of black people.

[eeyore]

21. Yup!

It's nothing but a fear-based straw man.

[keepCAblue]

15. It cuts deep...

I remember back in the 60s, as very young activist for equality, speaking out and standing up for the civil rights of blacks...and how I've ever since continued staunchly defending blacks through the decades that followed. In my own struggle for GLBTQ rights, I've often looked to the black struggle for inspiration and to leaders like MLK for wisdom. And yet, in these most recent years, it has hurt so much to see large factions of the black community -- the black churches, especially -- aligning themselves with the likes of Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Bush, Santorum, et.al. in their campaign of hate and discrimination against gays and lesbians.

That said, I give humble thanks to the notable black citizens of social and religious influence who have dared to stand apart, people like Coretta Scott King, Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandella.

[Mr_Spock]

18. Bigots come in all colors.

just like stupid people.

[Cha]

20. Jesus didn't hate so the people

doing the hating have something else they look up to or down to.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. What did the bumpersticker actually say?

I mean there's a possibility the motive they had when applying the sticker wasn't what it appears to be.

[eeyore]

31. It was in support of Oregon's 2004 measure 36

Measure 36 in Oregon:

RESULT OF "YES" VOTE: "Yes" vote adds to Oregon constitution declaration of policy that only marriage between one man and one woman is valid or legally recognized as marriage.

RESULT OF "NO" VOTE: "No" vote retains existing constitution without a provision declaring that only marriage between one man and one woman is valid or legally recognized as marriage.

The stickers in support of Measure 36 are still sadly all over cars in Oregon. Their intent was very clear.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. That's a shame.

I was hoping maybe they meant "one man and one woman" as opposed to "one white man and one white woman."

Oh well.

[SPKrazy]

34. It Was A Man And A Woman?

with a one man one woman sticker?

what a surprise

[eeyore]

36. Ha!

Yeah, big surprise there.

[Jed Dilligan]

40. It's the mixed straight/gay couples that worry me....

[sgxnk]

44. im not familiar with one man/one woman stickers

is there some specific aspect of them that leads to the assumption that their opposition to gay marriage (and polygamous marriage as the title would imply) is religiously based?

tia