Do you believe that Iraq is in a civil war and if

[butterfly77]

you do why do you think so, and if you don't what will one look like?

[Monkeyman]

1. Talking to Family there you better believe it

[butterfly77]

4. I believe it and I wonder why everyone keeps letting bush ...

keep lying , while more and more people are being killed while he keeps on strutting out making bushit speeches, and telling damn lies. He claims he was there to free them among the other lies he has given for why he went over there but,I know some didn't expect the type of freedom they received.

[Sherman A1]

2. Yes, I believe that it is civil war

If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck...........

[lonestarnot]

3. Yes, and could even be anarchy, because there is no refuge.

Everybody is a target.

[butterfly77]

5. Well, at least bush is protected.....

:sarcasm:

[lonestarnot]

8. Yeah he has Barney and Mrs. Beasley. bwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaa.

[thepurpose]

6. Yes they are the Repubs will believe when each side chooses blue or gray

uniforms and steps out on the field in line formation.

[icymist]

7. Yup.

I've been noticing this back in March. From my journal:

Tell Dimson not to kid himself, Iraq is in a civil war.
Posted by icymist in General Discussion
Sat Mar 25th 2006, 12:04 PM
The soldiers on either side may not be wearing convenient uniforms like the blue and grey of the American Civil War, but, nonetheless, this is a war between two factions that US troops are finding themselves between.

Battle for Baghdad 'has already started'
By Patrick Cockburn in Arbil
Published: 25 March 2006

The battle between Sunni and Shia Muslims for control of Baghdad has already started, say Iraqi political leaders who predict fierce street fighting will break out as each community takes over districts in which it is strongest.

"The fighting will only stop when a new balance of power has emerged," Fuad Hussein, the chief of staff of Massoud Barzani, the Kurdish leader, said. "Sunni and Shia will each take control of their own area." He said sectarian cleansing had already begun.

Many Iraqi leaders now believe that civil war is inevitable but it will be confined, at least at first, to the capital and surrounding provinces where the population is mixed. "The real battle will be the battle for Baghdad where the Shia have increasing control," said one senior official who did not want his name published. "The army will disintegrate in the first moments of the war because the soldiers are loyal to the Shia, Sunni or Kurdish communities and not to the government." He expected the Americans to stay largely on the sidelines
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Bush and Cheney can go ahead and claim that the media won't report anything good happening in Iraq, but the fact remains is that Iraq is blowing up in our face. The President's exit strategy is a hoax, counting Iraqi troops that one third of don't even exist!

(snip)
Mr Hussein gave another reason why the army is weak. "Where you have 3,000 soldiers there will in fact be only 2,000 men (because of ghost soldiers who do not exist and whose salaries are taken by senior officers)," he said. "When it comes to fighting only 500 of those men will turn up."

Another dark cloud on the horizon is a civil war in Afghanistan. Can America afford to be caught in the middle of two civil wars? Meanwhile, the Taliban are quietly gaining in strength. Is there anything that this President and administration can do without screwing it completely up?
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[MichiganVote]

9. Its a civil war, Bush has been informed, and the Pentagon

knew it would happen. They just hoped to be out by the time it happened and scoot like in 91'.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

10. It's civil war. They know once that has been formally declared

the American public will demand that we leave. The PNAC agenda is to spread democracy, so, they keep holding out for the situation to turn around, but things are getting so much worse on the civilian side, it's a no brainer!

That being said, politics before life, is what is deterring them for fessing up, before Nov., what a sad statement!

[MichiganVote]

11. They are already trying out their new spin...but, as always, Bush

is in the way of the people who have stuck by him in the past. After the election, they will marginalize him throughly. He'll exist as a fundraising trophy for 08'.

[butterfly77]

13. They are putting the soldiers lives in jeopardy..

also it seems as though they hide in the green zone, then send out a few troops at a time.

[MichiganVote]

14. Read the book FIASCO to realize they are TOTAL idiots

[Poiuyt]

12. Gen William Odom, NSA head under Reagan, says it's civil war

snip-

In reality, a civil war in Iraq began just weeks after U.S. forces toppled Saddam. Any close observer could see that then; today, only the blind deny it. Even President Bush, who is normally impervious to uncomfortable facts, recently admitted that Iraq has peered into the abyss of civil war. He ought to look a little closer. Iraqis are fighting Iraqis. Insurgents have killed far more Iraqis than Americans. That’s civil war.

more -

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3430

(Great article, BTW)