Islamists seeking heaven could spark apocalypse, Princeton expert warns

[Buttercup McToots]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51445



NUCLEAR WAR-FEAR
Iranian cataclysm forecast Aug. 22
Islamists seeking heaven could spark apocalypse, Princeton expert warns

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Posted: August 8, 2006
5:00 p.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com



Bernard Lewis (courtesy Princeton University)

A top expert on the Mideast says it is possible Iran could pick Aug. 22, the anniversary of one of Islam's holiest events, for a cataclysm Shiite Muslims believe will forever resolve the battle between "good" and "evil."

Princeton's Bernard Lewis has written an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal advising that the rest of the world would be wise to bear in mind that for those who believe the end of the world is imminent and good, there is no deterrent even to nuclear warfare.

As WorldNetDaily has reported, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has urged his people to prepare for the coming of an Islamic "messiah," raising concerns a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

He's also said, in a WND report, that Islam and its followers must prepare to rule the world, because it is a "universal ideology that leads the world to justice."

[Skidmore]

1. This begs the question of how this is any different than

Christian extremists here in the US conspiring to hasten the rapture?

What I find absolutely amazing is that religious extremists are in control of government policies for several nations from all Abrahamic religious traditions and the public refuses to recogize that 2000 lb. pink elephant in the room.

[LostinVA]

5. Bingo n/t

[RethugAssKicker]

27. You NAILED IT.

We have insane people in quite a few powerful countries right now, specifically the US and Israel.... all believing in dooms-day religions!!

[CJCRANE]

2. Iran doesn't

have any nuclear weapons. This is fearmongering of the worst kind.

Just like the claim that Saddam could launch WMD in 45 minutes.

It's complete bullsh*t but as usual the 30% of the population who share a braincell will lap it up.

[Missy M]

11. I'm afraid it's more than 30% sharing a brain cell when it comes...

to believing the fearmongering ghibberish being put out by neocons. That is why Bush and the neocons keep up the terror nonsense as #1, they know the American people will buy it hook, line and sinker.

[Newsjock]

3. Christian extremists seeking heaven could spark apocalypse,DU expert warns

A top expert on the United States says it is possible the U.S. could pick Aug. 22, the anniversary of one of Islam's holiest events, for a cataclysm evangelical Christians believe will forever resolve the battle between "good" and "evil."

Democratic Underground's Newsjock has written an opinion piece advising that the rest of the world would be wise to bear in mind that for those who believe the end of the world is imminent and good, there is no deterrent even to nuclear warfare.

As Democratic Underground has reported, U.S. President George W. Bush has urged his people to prepare for the coming of a Christian "messiah," raising concerns a nuclear-armed United States could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

He's also said, in a DU report, that the United States and its followers must prepare to rule the world, because it is a "universal ideology that leads the world to justice."

[Joanne98]

8. LOL!

[paparush]

17. DING! DING! DING!! We have a winner!!! nt

[Buttercup McToots]

4. Iran to Nuke Israel on August 22?

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16208


Jihad Watch

Iran to Nuke Israel on August 22?
by Robert Spencer
Posted Jul 26, 2006



Why Khaybar Should Concern the West

Staged Massacre

Ahmadinejad Leading Jihad Against West

Jihad in Bombay




Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has frustrated Western officials by refusing to reply to their offer of various incentives in exchange for Iran’s discarding its nuclear program until August 22. The Western governments had asked Ahmadinejad to reply by June 29; why would Tehran need two extra months?

Farid Ghadry, the president of the Reform Party of Syria, has offered a provocative explanation for this delay. He asserts that the Supreme National Security Council of Iran chose the August 22 date “for a very precise reason. August 21, 2006 (Rajab 27, 1427) is known in the Islamic calendar as the Night of the Sira’a and Miira’aj, the night Prophet Mohammed (saas) ascended to heaven from the Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem on a Bourak (Half animal, half man), while a great light lit-up the night sky, and visited Heaven and Hell also Beit al-Saada and Beit al-Shaqaa (House of Happiness and House of Misery) and then descended back to Mecca.…”

The Night Journey, or Miraj, is central to Islam’s claim to Jerusalem as an Islamic holy city. According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was carried on a Buraq, a miraculous horse with a human head, from Mecca to Jerusalem, where he ascended into heaven and met the other prophets. The only thing the Qur’an has to say about it is this: “Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things)” (17:1). There is no identification of the “farthest Mosque” with any mosque in Jerusalem in this, but the Hadith is very clear on the identification of its location with Jerusalem.

The traditions say that Muhammad and the Buraq, along with the angel Gabriel, went to the Temple Mount, and from there to heaven itself, where Muhammad encountered various prophets. In the sixth heaven was Moses, occasioning a dig at the Jews. “When I left him,” Muhammad says, “he wept. Someone asked him, ‘What makes you weep?’ Moses said, ‘I weep because after me there has been sent (Muhammad as a Prophet) a young man, whose followers will enter Paradise in greater numbers than my followers.’”

[LostinVA]

6. I think they may actually need to HAVE nukes, first

[Buttercup McToots]

7. Just sharin`

Just sharin` what's out there in my travels around the net...

[paparush]

19. and WHY would the Iranians want to nuke such a holy place?

[paparush]

21. If Bush** causes my nuclear annihilation, I'm going to be SO pissed

[CJCRANE]

23. Let's wait and see.

Or is that the point.

We just can't wait, just like we couldn't wait to find Saddam's WMD's that didn't exist, and just like the London Police couldn't wait to shoot the Brazilian guy on the Tube.

[NNN0LHI]

9. This comes from World Nut Daily

It must be true.

Don

[Nickster]

10. So if they wish and pray real hard, then nuclear weapons will magically

appear to smite the infidels? Is that how it works??

[nomo]

12. GO Ahmadinejad!

I LOVE that guy! He's so awesome. Everytime he opens his mouth he throws the rightwingers in a tailspin. Now I'm left to wonder, whose end of the world is better? Which messiah should I be rooting for? Do I have time to buy popcorn?

[Buttercup McToots]

13. LOL

:rofl:

[Malikshah]

14. "Expert" ???? Past-it more like...

Bernard "Look, I belched, and another tired book came forth" Lewis is a pioneer in the field, but his specialty was and remains medieval to pre-modern. His works on the modern period are an embarassment.

He is no expert on the modern period at all. The only ones who view him as such are those who wish for armageddon

[cali]

16. Absolutely correct

He is an expert on medieval to pre-modern, and any pronouncements he makes on contemporary affairs are bullshit.

[soothsayer]

15. more likely Israel will nuke Iran

[cali]

22. Actually,

it's highly unlikely that Israel will nuke anybody. And as Iran doesn't have nukes, we can count that out. Even if they did have nukes, I find it difficult to believe they'd use them.

[IChing]

18. Democracy Now did a piece this morning on the other side of the coin

Christians United for Israel: New Christian Zionism Lobby Hopes to Rival AIPAC

short statement for example:

MY GOODMAN:

Max Blumenthal, I wanted to end on the issue of rapture.
Last month, Harper's magazine reported traffic on internet bulletin boards, talking about rapture or end times,
greatly increased following the outbreak of violence in the Middle East.

One person wrote online, "I've been having rapture dreams and I can't believe that this is really it!
We're on the edge of eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Another person wrote, "I too am soooo excited!! I get goose bumps,
literally, when I watch what's going on in the !!"

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/15/1326256

The article and show which is better described the group and players influence and power on this administration

[Tesha]

20. I'm starting to look with a very jaundiced eye...

I'm starting to look with a very jaundiced eye at *ANY* claims
made about Islam by Christians and Jews, especially when pub-
lished in such proven bastions of editorial balance and
moderation as the RandO page of the "Wall Street Journal".

And yes, before anyone asks, I certainly experience the same
jaundice when Muslims try to tell us what Jews and Christians
believe.

All three sides in this debate are, basically, full of shit
propagandists.

Tesha

[leftofthedial]

24. fundies of all stripes threaten to trigger Armageddon

ESPECIALLY christist fundies, jew fundies, right wing capitalist fundies, liber-property-tarians . . .

[madrchsod]

25. the "world net daily" ? that is a reputable source?

who cares what this twit has to say? he`s not going to do a dam thing...
oh bernie is a well known anti islamic writer

[endarkenment]

26. Hey Buttercup you are linking rightwing nutcase hate sites.

But Welcome to DU anyway.