Ok, wait a minute...is Joe a PNACer?

[CoffeeCat]

I was listening to talk radio yesterday, and the Lamont/Lieberman race was being discussed.

Lieberman's Iraq stance was examined, and they one of Joe's old quotes--which he said sometime in 2002. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Joe was attempting to demonstrate that his support for the Iraq war was staunch and had been a longstanding commitment of his.

Joe said, 'Yes, I have believed that we need to invade Iraq for a while now. In 1998, we went to President Clinton and we asked him to consider invading Iraq. Saddam was a threat then, and he's a threat now."

I was stunned, because I knew that the PNAC/neocons had requested war with Iraq in 1998. They wrote a letter to President Clinton requesting war, and Clinton denied them. The letter is right here on the PNAC site: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Joe's name isn't on the PNAC letter, but it sounds as if he was part of the PNAC/neocon/warmongering get-along-gang who pitched the Iraq war--long before Junior was pResident. For many, this 1998 pitch is proof that a war with Iraq was wanted pre-9/11 and that the Bush Administration used 9-11 to wage a war that they've long salivated desired.

If its true that Joe was part of the Iraq-war pitch to Clinton--this is undeniable proof that Joe is a pure neocon player--who just happens to be a Democrat.

It would also explain that kiss.

[MessiahRp]

1. That doesn't surprise me...

I always have had low opinions of Joe ever since he came out so strong for censorship. I also think he was the completely wrong choice for VP when Gore made it especially after he railed on Clinton during the impeachment crap.

Besides the scam in Florida, not picking Joe and campaigning a little more in his homestate were right up there as other ways Gore should have won in 2000.

Rp

[The2ndWheel]

2. Committee on the Present Danger

http://www.fightingterror.org/

[Bonhomme Richard]

5. LOL, if you look at the members it's like a Rogues Gallery. n/t

[bluedog]

3. didn't see his name on the pnac letter

heres link to that:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm




but his name was on this one from Congress

http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Letters,%20reports%20and%20statements/levin-10-9-98.html

Carl Levin, Joe Lieberman, Frank R. Lautenberg, Dick Lugar, Kit Bond, Jon Kyl, Chris Dodd, John McCain, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Alfonse D'Amato, Bob Kerrey, Pete V. Domenici, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Mikulski.

Thomas Daschle, John Breaux, Tim Johnson, Daniel K. Inouye, Arlen Specter, James Inhofe, Strom Thurmond, Mary L. Landrieu, Wendell Ford, John F. Kerry, Chuck Grassley, Jesse Helms, Rick Santorum.

[OregonBlue]

4. He is the Mole inside the Democratic leadership. I bet every move

that Reid plans is passed to the Repukes by Liarman! Remember his Katrina coverup committee with Susan Collins? They made every effort to cover up the truth! He's been a Republican for a very long time.

[Tin Man]

6. Yep, it sure explains a lot about Lieberman actions in recent years

I agree, I think Joe has been in the pocket of the AIPAC/PNAC all along.

[goforit]

7. And to think he set up Gore this whole time. Whata sick bastard!

[fooj]

10. I will NEVER forgive him for that. Ever.

Not hard to understand why he can't get an endorsement from Gore, eh?

Pond scum.

[eccles12]

8. If there was one redeeming feature of the Gore loss, it was that

Lieberman never got to be a "heartbeat" away from the Presidency. The stage was set so that the PNAC pak and the neocon cabal could not lose either way the election went. This should be ovbvious to thinking people everywhere.

[fooj]

9. Yep...Guess who the other two senators were...

John McCain and Bob Kerrey. As far as being a neo-con player- check this out:

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1213-05.htm

Published on Thursday, December 13, 2001 in the San Jose Mercury News
Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman Group Puts Out a Blacklist
by Roberto J. Gonzalez

AN aggressive attack on freedom has been launched upon America's college campuses. Its perpetrators seek the elimination of ideas and activities that place Sept. 11 in historical context, or critique the so-called war on terrorism.
The offensive, spearheaded by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a Washington-based group, threatens free speech, democratic debate and the integrity of higher education. In an incendiary report, ``Defending Civilization: How Our Universities Are Failing America,'' the American Council claims that ``colleges and university faculty have been the weak link in America's response'' to Sept. 11. It also asserts that ``when a nation's intellectuals are unwilling to defend its civilization, they give comfort to its adversaries.''

The report documents 117 campus incidents as ``evidence'' of anti-Americanism. More than 40 professors are named, including the president of Wesleyan University, who suggested in an open letter that ``disparities and injustices'' in American society and the world can lead to hatred and violence.

Other examples abound. A Yale professor is criticized for saying, ``It is from the desperate, angry and bereaved that these suicide pilots came.'' A professor emeritus from the University of Oregon is listed for recommending that ``we need to understand the reasons behind the terrifying hatred directed against the U.S. and find ways to act that will not foment more hatred for generations to come.''

Dozens more comments, taken out of context and culled from secondary sources, are presented as examples of an unpatriotic academy.

The American Council of Trustees and Alumni was founded in 1995 by Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Its Website claims that it contributed $3.4 billion to colleges and universities last year, making it ``the largest private source of support for higher education.'' Cheney is cited several times in the report, and is reportedly a close associate of its authors, Jerry Martin and Anne Neal.

<snip>

Now we know where the rat bastard found all of those college kids that terrorized the Lamont campaign. My guess is that he has been a Republican operative (mole) for over 10 years...

He SICKENS me.

[jobycom]

11. The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

According to this, Lieberman and McCain were honorary members.

http://worcester.indymedia.org/news/2006/07/3559.php

In the fall of 2002, when the administration began its "marketing" campaign to sell the skeptical U.S. public--and skeptical world leaders--on the "need" to attack Iraq, a group of mostly-neoconservative D.C. heavyweights created The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) to shape the sales pitch.

The Committee's Chairman was Bruce Jackson. Mr. Jackson, who was Vice President of Lockheed Martin Corporation from 1999-2202, is also a Director of the neocon Project for the New American Century (PNAC). (Signers of PNAC's 1997 founding Statement of Principles include Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Dan Quayle, and Steve Forbes. Learn more at http://www.opednews.com/new%20american%20century.htm and at http://www.newamericancentury.org)

The Committee's Advisory Board was chaired by former Secretary of State George Shultz, of San Francisco-based war contractor Bechtel fame.

The Advisory Board's "Honorary Co-Chairmen" were Joe Lieberman and John McCain.

Here's another link:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1458
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[fooj]

12. Treasonous rat bastard!

:grr:

[flpoljunkie]

13. Don't forget Evan Bayh, altho he's removed his name as Joe's CLI co-chair.

I saw it in a press release--his joining Lieberman as honorary co-chair. You can no longer find the press release on the web. I have posted it in the past.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/28/ip.01.html


WOODRUFF: So he had something important to do in Switzerland?

NOVAK: Yes. WOODRUFF: The World Economic Forum. All right. We know that there was a surprising "no" vote to the Condi Rice nomination.

NOVAK: Evan Bayh, the moderate from Indiana voted "no," but the interesting thing about that is that on February 14th, 2003, Senator Bayh joined Joe Lieberman and John McCain as honorary co-chair of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, you know, because of all the weapons of mass destruction.

I looked at the Web site and he has taken himself off of that. I've been trying to find out all day when he left that committee. But I would say Evan Bayh is moving left and that means he is after the Democratic nomination for president.

[JohnnyBoots]

14. He is part of this group www.defenddemocracy.org Look at the

member list search on the lower left hand side. Sounds like PNAC lite.

[Skidmore]

15. Add the American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA) to the list..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2755911

When I heard this as it was happening, I wrote Lieberman off then. I have come to truly despise this duplicitous specimen.