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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:26 AM
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EACH AND EVERY GOVERNOR SAYS NO TO BUSH
GOVERNORS RESIST SHIFTING AUTHORITY OVER GUARD

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 14 — In an unusual act of bipartisan and regional unanimity, 51 governors have joined to voice their strong opposition to legislation to let the president federalize National Guard troops in a disaster without local authorities’ consent.

In a letter to Congressional leaders last week, the governors detailed their argument that the measure, drawn up after Hurricane Katrina and tucked into a military authorization bill that the House recently passed, would undermine their authority and autonomy.

“This provision was drafted without consultation or input from governors,” read the letter, conceived in large part by Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, a Republican, “and represents an unprecedented shift in authority from governors as Commanders and Chief of the Guard to the federal government."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/us/15governors.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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tinfoil tiaras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:36 AM
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1. Even Haley "Me and * are like this" Barbour said no?
Wow......
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:37 AM
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2. Bushco needs this to enforce martial law after their next 911
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:47 AM
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3. Who penned this poison provision?
Was it Congress or the WH?

Anyway, it's nice to see The Uniter can still unite people without resorting to fear-mongering. Although uniting every last US governer against him isn't exactly something to crow about.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:02 AM
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4. Still, it is impressive.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:32 AM
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13. Abu "I dont' know nutin' bout no Constitution" Gonzalez?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:51 AM
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25. If so, charging him with treason might refresh his memory.
What am I saying? There'll be no justice.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:19 PM
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36. He'll have time to brush up AND read a jillion pages of caselaw IN PRISON
just like everybody else.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:19 AM
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5. I think I have been seeing this for a long time
States and countries are just going around Bush and Co. It is like they have classed him as really not very important. I think it makes Bush and Co. a little more wild which seems to self feed the trend.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:56 AM
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28. Yeah, like people and countries
are Really gonna bow to the "almighty" bushitlers!
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:50 AM
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6. This parallels Hitler's insistence on the Wermacht swearing an oath...
... of allegiance. It's simply a modern day equivalent.

One other thing... the way the right-wing-freak-show constantly refer to Bush as "The Commander-in-Chief" is not dissimilar to "Mein Fuehrer".

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:03 AM
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29. "The commander-in-chief"!!?? If I had
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 09:03 AM by zidzi
been drinking tea it would be all over my keyboard..:rofl:

BRWAHAWAHAHAHAWABRAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Incurious george? Little lord bunny without the pants? bush, who didn't even have the balls to meet with Cindy Sheehan? AWOL bush during his entire life?

The right wing talk hate crazies are worse than Toyko Rose and should be sent to the Hague with their fuerher bush.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:02 AM
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7. 51 Governors?
Did they finally make Israel a state?

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:58 AM
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9. Puerto Rico n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:33 AM
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14.  How did 52 vote?
(Israel)
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:08 AM
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18. I'm going to go clean my glasses and
read the article again. I can't see where it says 52 votes.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:31 AM
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31. just reread my post. 52 is Israel.
:sarcasm:
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:49 PM
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34. I'm sorry. I am tired today. n/t
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:31 PM
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35. that's okay. me too. naptime sounds good right about now.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 06:53 AM
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8. Is the legislationalready in place? If so, is it too late for the gover
governors to do anything about it - like take it to the supreme court?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:03 AM
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10. What's to protect the states from the US military taking over?
Why it is the National Guard that's who
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:04 AM
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11. The national Guard shouldn't even be used
overseas. Isn't the point of the Guard to protect us here? :mad:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:36 AM
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16. Mmmmm it CAN be used overseas
but that usually means that you are "Without paddle" as they say in the creek business.

I saw a quote recently from a Alaska NG who said something about never in his wildest dreams thinking he would be deployed overseas "You just can't imagine that Alaska would be attacking anyone"

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:09 AM
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19. I wasn't saying what IS, I was just
expressing my opinion. It's called "National" Guard. Not international. I think they should be the first line of defense here, not sent away to other countries.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:17 AM
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20. precisely WHY bush has them overseas, so they can't stand up to
posse comitas (sp?)

when the military declares martial law against us and rounds us up to put into the FEMA slave camps, the national guard can't help us because they're overseas.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:33 AM
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21. Yes, exactly. I know that is why he is doing this.
Which is why I am pleasantly surprised that ALL governors are against this.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:43 AM
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23. me, too. but honestly, how much teeth can that have if they truly
send our superior weaponry AGAINST us and against the governors? I mean, in NOLA, she stood up to him, but only barely.
And the only threat there was witholding of aid. How brave will governors be when the threat is to disappear their family?

I'm just saying, with this crew, ANYTHING is morally acceptable to them in the quest for power.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:18 AM
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12. Even Jeb???? Ouch.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:34 AM
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15. OH YEAH BAB Y! Let's get some con-firm on Jugheads' vote! heh-heh....
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:57 AM
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17. Oooohhh.. Good catch, thanks for pointing that out.. That must sting..n/t
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:46 AM
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24. Jeb's out this year--term limits
that would be embarrassing, to Shrubbie, though. I'll have to read the story and check.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:38 AM
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22. A must for George............
So he can cancel the 2008 election because of the war on terror!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:53 AM
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26. They are all helping Bin Laden like the democrats are...
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 08:54 AM by Hubert Flottz
Ask Bush & Dick...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:55 AM
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27. Unanimous against bush's
fascism..how refreshing!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:25 AM
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30. Each and every governor and other American should be saying no to
virtually every policy/action of this Administration for each and every of its policies/actions, singularly and holistically, undermine virtually everything good about this country, this Republic, our Constitution.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:35 AM
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32. Thank you Governors
Everyone should call theirs today (no matter who it is) and thank them for upholding State rights. Bush will have to hire all Blackwater mercs for his Gestapo now.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 11:06 AM
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33. I knew Ahnuld wouldn't go along
He's obnoxious, not stupid.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:21 PM
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37. What a shock - he didn't even consult the governors
Does he ever consult anybody outside of his inner circle & a few top members of Al Qaeda?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:22 PM
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38. heh heh heh!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 11:18 PM
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39. I suppose they actually want those "states rights" that the GOP used to
drone on about.
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