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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:08 PM
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Aviation consultant: We know the problem. We know the real threat. It's us
TSA's Rule: No Shirt. No Shoes. Now You Can Fly
US Aviation Security: Stupidity As An Art Form

There's no doubt about it. The bad guys are planning to hit us again.

The foiled UK plot is just one example. Not particularly sophisticated, but still an indication of a deeply-organized threat. Then we have the clowns running into Wal-Mart, buying, say, 100 cell phones, thinking that it won't be noticed. Again, an indication of very unsophisticated people, but still, people who want to kill us. On the eve of the fifth anniversary of 9/11, there's lots of "noise."...

The Sheep Are Buying It. And, we've already seen Angie Airhead, the 6PM News reporter, on the scene at the airport, interviewing passengers stuck in hour-long screening lines:

* Angie: How do you feel about these new security measures?
* Traveler, standing tall, strong, and looking with great determination into the camera: "If it promotes the war on terror, I'll gladly give up my tube of Pepsodent!"...

Some folks, reading and hearing the news, would jump right in and agree with the soon-to-be toothless wonder in that security line: Yeah, but if they're gonna use liquid explosives, whaddya suggest we do?"

We'll start with this: The US airport system is a sieve. The ramp areas are about as secure as an unlocked Lexus in the South Bronx. Those guys working on the taxiway? The people cleaning the airplanes? The people slopping the special sauce in the burger joints in the sterile area? The catering truck, and the people driving it? We covered it weeks ago - it's a fact, regardless of the blatant lies coming out of the TSA.

The point is that if really sophisticated terrorists want to get stuff onto the ramp at big airports, they probably can. So taking a bottle of make-up foundation away from mamma isn't going to do diddly to counter terrorism....

http://www.aviationplanning.com/asrc1.htm
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:14 PM
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1. hmmm, mayhaps we could try to analyse why
they want to kill us.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:16 PM
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2. That would require logic and reason ...
and our government has neither. :-(
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:43 AM
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4. We could also analyze why they're obsessed with planes
It seems as if they feel it's the only tool in their cabinet or something... weird.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:22 AM
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11. I think they're obsessed with planes because that's the
only way they can 'damage' the US. Their traditional arms can't reach our soil.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 11:12 AM
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14. Well, it doesn't hurt that
There's a renewal for wartime footing insurance for airlines due to be renewed by Congress. If the airlines aren't vulnerable, then why the insurance need?

-Hoot
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lgn19087 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:32 AM
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13. Except for
trains, buses, subways, and trucks.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:16 AM
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5. We already know the answer to that.


"They hate us for our freedom," God told Dubya that in one of their conversations together. That's how we know it's true.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:43 PM
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3. Ladies & Gentlemen, may I present...... The 'SUSPECTS'
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 11:47 PM by Mind_your_head


on edit adding: 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!' I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell - 'I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... You've got to say, 'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say it: 'I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!'
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:36 AM
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6. No link to terror plot in cell phone caper...
So who's talking to whom about buying what in the media? :eyes:
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 01:48 AM
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7. I strongly believe the TSA "harassment" is designed not to
necessarily thwart terrorism, but just to keep the reminder of it in our everyday lives. Ironicly, it is increasing the terror in some.

I travel by plane almost every week.

The two most significant things to keep us safe in the air, IMHO, are the sealed cockpit doors, and the fact that now, if anyone gets way out of line or starts acting dangerously, the passengers beat them to a pulp.

I am far more concerned about stuff getting into cargo than with carryons nowdays. I think the article is right on.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:33 AM
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9. My mantra: "Pan Am 103. It's the cargo, stupid."
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:36 AM
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8. If the PNAC 'individuals' had 'decided' to spend 1/4 of what...
they squandered in Iraq (for Iran to win...) on really securing these loopholes (in our ports too), thousands of troops would still be with us (and healthy),

AND:


flying around would be close to 99.9999% foolproof!

But no... Lil' AWOL king had to avenge poppy (at the expense of the rest of the country, if not the world). :mad:

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 05:00 AM
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10. "The bad guys are planning to hit us again" . . .
yup . . . I have no doubt that BushCo is planning something big before the November elections . . .
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:27 AM
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12. Also check out the article a little below that one: "The Book"
by the chairmen of the 9-11 commission.
:grr:
:grr:
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