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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:01 PM
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Sometimes I wonder about "blackmailed Democrats"
There are different theories or facts to account for the timidity of some Democrats. A theory that occurred to me is that some of the Democrats have "dirt" in their political lives and the Republicans know about it. So, you make us look bad and we get you back. I hope I'm wrong with this theory but then again no one ever said politics was for saints.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:04 PM
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1. Did anyone hear what Feingold said about McCain over the weekend?

FEINGOLD, furrchrissakes!!!! Saying how wonderful McCain is and if the elections were today, McCain would even beat him. (Heard this today on Sam Seder show)

it really is true, anyone inside the Beltway is totally unconnected and clueless.

FEINGOLD. I just want to screeeaaaammmmmm !!!!!

:mad:
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:05 PM
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3. oh.my.god nt
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:17 PM
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7. Yeh...he said it
I heard it myself...........start the scream NOW!!!
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:02 AM
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15. WHY DID FEINGOLD
say this - in what context - man now I'm going to have nightmares....
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:04 PM
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2. or the faint of heart
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:05 PM
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4. Having dirt on politicians kept J. Edgar Hoover in power...
...for fifty years. It's pretty likely that his lesson was well learned by the GOP.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:06 PM
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5. Sadly it's probably common place...
politics is dirty when it's played as a game.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:08 PM
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6. It's true, sadly. I've heard of some examples, including
former members of Congress and at least one still in power.

I suspect this goes on a lot more than we'd like to believe, on both sides of the aisle.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:26 PM
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8. How about total blackmail as in setting them up at a georgetown party
then taking pictures after druging them? Read about the franklin conspiracy
Conspiracy of Silence Video - Download for Free - It is the Duty of Every American to Watch this Video!
http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/index.php?module=announce&ANN_user_op=view&ANN_id=45




A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered up By Authorities



“Conspiracy of Silence”, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994.




This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.






Original link for article below from VoxFux:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm


The following archive paints a chilling portrait of what is really going on in the upper echelons of the ruling elite here in America. The story involves children from orphanages in Nebraska being flown around the United States by top Republican officials in order to engage in child sex orgies with America's ruling elite. It is a fact that during the 1980's, child sexual services were provided by top Republican officials to key, bureaucrats and diplomats but most importantly, there is a chilling proximity of all of these events and personalities, to the President of the United States at the time, George H.W. Bush. And there have been victims who claim that the President himself engaged in the activities. It is a tale of child sex, murder, espionage, blackmail, and huge payoffs. And all the players are involved. From the White House to the CIA to the media barrons to the Republican elite - right down to the orphanages where they procured their victims.

This story was the second biggest scandal of the 1980's which was completely obliterated by the Bush White House - A complete coordinated blackout by the ruling elite in cooperation with the American television networks. (The biggest scandal being the Bush involvement in the attempted assassination of President Reagan) Since the elite who own the television networks in America are the same elite who feast off the carcass of the American population - just like the Bushes do and who sit on the same boards of the same corporate cartels as the Bushes do - most Americans will never hear of this explosive story. But thanks to the Internet all these suppressed news facts are re-surfacing. Perhaps the most chilling aspect of this horrific tale is that such realities can be so completely obliterated by the powers that be so that, even though these are simply the very biggest most explosive stories of our time - you will never know that they happened. That is why www.voxfux.com exists. To bring you the hard cold truth about what is really happening to our world. To inform you about who these people really are who rule America.

Fortunately not all people are in on the crimes of the elite. Once and a while a person comes along who is human and who fights and resists this evil force which is destroying the human race. In this case, former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. As the story goes, at the last minute before airing, there was a massive effort from key Washington politicians who were implicated in the scandal to exert pressure on the channel to threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired.

Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. You can view the online video below.


The Franklin Cover-up Scandal

The Child sex ring that reached Bush/Reagan Whitehouse

Boy prostitutes 15 years old (and younger) were taking midnight tours of the Whitehouse. There are 19 more Washington Times articles in full text about this case available here at ARCHIVE OF WASHINGTON CHILD SEX RING IMPLICATING GEORGE BUSH SR..


Bush Jr. continues in has father's Homosexual footsteps, by having callboys visiting the Whitehouse. Again the press plays the whole thing down.


"Cable television news reports have recently linked an alleged male prostitute to the present White House since George W. Bush permitted James Guckert to use an unprecedented Secret Service-approved alias (Jeff Gannon) while having access to the White House for two years as a pool reporter serving the younger Bush--before which Gannon had advertised himself on internet pornography sites as a male "escort" charging $200 an hour. John DeCamp told this writer "I believe Johnny Gosch and Jeff Gannon are one and the same person--but I am not in a position to know positively." " Noreen Gosch said her son Johnny is living under an assumed name after being abducted on September 5, 1982 while serving his Sunday morning paper route. During a clandestine visit from her son when he was 27 or 28, Mrs. Gosch said Johnny told her he was taken by a highly organized, very corporate global pedophile/pornography ring--linked to the Washington, DC congressional call-boy scandal during the 1980's.








George W. Bush, the Male cheerleader
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:40 PM
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9. wow, never heard about this nt
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:51 PM
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11. go into the du archives and look up ..
the wrinkles threads..you will have a lifetime of reading to do..it was covered here for a long time..there are just about every link to the subject...

here start here ..there were approx 20 or so threads

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3144209&mesg_id=3144209

here is a second one..


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3144209&mesg_id=3144209


a third on the subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3140015&mesg_id=3140015
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:41 PM
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10. This might deserve it's own thread
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:52 PM
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12. they will most likely lock it..go to the archives here at du..it has been
covered extensively
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:00 PM
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13. actually here are numerous du links about it all...
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:11 PM
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18. lol they were all removed. Guess someone wants to keep this quiet.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:52 PM
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21. no they weren't.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:23 PM
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22. TRY HERE...THIS LINK..
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:22 PM
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14. Shhhhhhh! Just because J. Edgar died, it doesn't mean
somebody else is managing his files.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:08 AM
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16. Every objective of Watergate has been met and exceeded
Think about it: Nixon dreamed of endless, unchallengable, One-Party Rule.

Nixon dreamed of a weakened Democratic Party which, because of a kind of 'blackmail' (Liddy proposed GOP hookers on cruise ships, I recall), would never seem to bring it's full weight to bear in opposition.

But Nixon dreamed, crazy as it sounds, to do it within the framework of the Constitution. Bush, Cheney, et al have shredded the Constitution irreperably.

In either case, these two objectives and all the rest have been 100% ACHIEVED by the Busheviks.

Coincidence? I think not.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:11 AM
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17. Most are simply bought. Blackmail is dangerous because
the victim might break. But if you buy most politicians they tend to stay bought...the trough just looks so big and yummy that they never want to stop feeding.

Greed is more powerful than fear.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 07:48 PM
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20. gannon made a sly remark about joe biden after biden
went on with bill maher and made comments about gannon being in the wh press room.

it was a very sly comment about meeting biden a couple weeks before..in his blog i believe if i am remembering correctly..

it was not missed on du..at the time

fly
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:51 PM
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19. I have been believing this for some time now...
and I think this will be used against them in the upcoming elections.
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