Pat Buchanan just hit the nail on the head re: US attacking Iran....

[Roland99]

Bush does NOT have the authority to attack Iran.

It's an act of war.

That's for an act from Congress.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. I know it, you know it and even Pat Buchanan knows it...

...but the Chimperor doesn't.:scared:

[MissMarple]

17. Bush knows it, he just doesn't give a damn.

That is what all the obfuscation is about. Liars... cynical, arrogant liars...all of them.

[focusfan]

24. i agree with you 100%

he knows he can do what ever he wants and get away with it
because of his congress croonies

[Opusnone]

2. Why do I find myself agreeing with Buchanan more and more?

The guy makes sense on foreign affairs, plain and simple.

I'm no CONservative, but I agree with most things Pat Buchanan argues.

I watched the interview BTW, it was strong, even Tweety admitted that our congress critters are afraid of standing up to *.

[Balbus]

10. Oh, yeah? Tell me, from this list, which parts do you agree with

Pat on? I'm very curious.

http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/buchanan.html

And don't be shy, Pat has sort of a cult following on DU apparently, so you won't be alone.

[Opusnone]

15. I must be a closet bigot and not entitled to post here

Is that what you're implying?

I said foreign policy. OK?

Now back off.

[Balbus]

20. "but I agree with most things Pat Buchanan argues"

Your words, not mine. I'm just asking what the "most things" are. But being a "closet bigot" in no way disqualifies someone from posting here.

[Roland99]

16. He's a classic conservative (at least re: US foreign policy)

which is the key area most people seem to agree with him on.

[Mir]

27. It's funny isn't it...

how this guy - notoriously conservative for so long - now sounds like a perfectly rational human being? It goes to show just how far off the spectrum these freaks in charge have gone.

[BluePatriot]

32. No kidding (nt)

[Balbus]

3. Pat Buchanan is the man!!!

Go Pat! I can't think of anyone better who I'd want to speak for me and the Democratic party!

[UDenver20]

5. No kidding...

LOL... I never thought I'd see the day when we were all such big fans of Pat Buchanan.

Just goes to show you how much these clowns ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.

[Somawas]

12. Absolutely.

Pat's a nutbar but when it comes to being a conservative, he's the genuine article. You kind of have to respect his point of view even when you're sure he's full of shit.

[joeunderdog]

18. Pat Buchanon has not morphed into a Bush Repuke like so many average

voters. The guy is saying the same thing he always has. America is #1. Keep out of other countries' business. Favor Americans (white ones) in every situation. Screw foreign aid...

He says some things that are not politically correct but might not be factually inaccurate. I don't agree that the facts don't deserve a deeper look, but I don't think he's the liar that most of the Bozos in power are today. He hasn't changed his view of Republicanism either, which, in a relative sense, is now closer to our politics than the facism that is in the WH today.

And yeah, he used to be the Right Winger Nutball.


Does that mean I'm a fan? No. But I do judge him point for point and like him better than Bushco.

[Balbus]

You're telling me the stuff he says is not factually inaccurate,

just not put in a politically correct way? Whew, I'm sure the blacks, women, gays and Jews will all feel so much better now.

[Bluzmann57]

6. Pat Buchanan is a piece of dogcrap

I don't want him speaking for me, ever.

[screembloodymurder]

19. Yes, but you might agree with him even though he's not speaking for you.

?

[rzemanfl]

23. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. It is miraculous that

* is ALWAYS wrong, defies the laws of probability, but, then again, so did his vote totals.

[leftchick]

4. um, it didn't stop him before

:shrug:

[katty]

7. Pat is spot on

[napi21]

8. But did you also hear him say he believed Shrub THINKS he has

the authority to do it on his own anyway? I believe THAT TOO!

I don't know what to think about all the different talking heads talking aobut how they believe Srub is intent on attacking Iran. I bet I've heard 10 people say that in the last week! Buchanan just said "Look at his eyes. He's going to do it before he leaves office!" Sy Hersch said something similar earlier in the show, and said he believed it would be shortly after Nov elections. Can we all make enought noise about this to actually STOP him fro doing that?????

[Roland99]

22. That's the scary part. And couple that with Hersh's article and this >>>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1909284

[H2O Man]

29. Buchanan was the first

person to connect the neocon?AIPAC spy scandal with the Plame scandal; he did so on MSNBC about 2 years ago.

[JuniperLea]

9. Sometimes yes, sometimes no

I agree with Pat a lot these days, but sometimes...

In this case, he is absolutely right. But what do we do about it? This bastard keeps breaking the law and no one is willing to call him on the carpet about anything!

WTF???

[INdemo]

11. yea right,If * atacks Iran he will just say

he already had the authority..Ever notice that when oil starts to decline Bush pulls some kind of stunt or says soemthing to have an excuse to raise the price again..

[bobbolink]

13. So is Pat gonna run to the Whitehouse and stop him???

[rubberducky]

14. I think some of the talking heads..

are waking up to the fact, that the currant regime in Wash. must go. Anyone who can`t see that we are way worse off than we were 6 years would have to be completely out of touch with reality.

[rzemanfl]

21. You have to give this guy credit for saying that he got some of

Gore's votes in Palm Beach county.

[H2O Man]

25. Buchanan is a smart man.

His books are always far more interesting that the part he plays on tv. I think that his ideas on domestic issues are generally wrong, but his grasp of foreign policy is impressive and of value.

[grasswire]

26. Pat was anti-empire before it was cool

He wrote a book called "A Republic, Not An Empire" published in 1999, with two million copies sold. He has argued publicly against imperialism for more than a decade now.

[H2O Man]

28. That book

predicted the events of 9/11 (see page 44).

[grasswire]

30. no kidding?

Do you happen to have it? I'd sure love to read what he wrote.

[H2O Man]

31. Yes, I have it.

His prediction goes on for a few pages, but in part states, "If we continue on this course of reflexive interventions, enemies will one day answer our power with the last weapon of the weak -- terror, and eventually cataclysmic terrorism on U.S. soil." He predicted that followers of Usama bin Laden would use weak port security to bring a crude WMD into a city such as Seattle. The details are, of course, distinct from what happened in NYC, PA, and DC. But he was on target with the prediction that US "interventions" in the Middle East would result in the US being targeted.

Again, while Buchanan's social policies are plainly wrong, and one need not like him as an individual, his books are interesting reads.

[grasswire]

38. thanks

It's a good idea to not underestimate Buchanan, IMO. His sister, OTOH, is a nut.

[Raksha]

33. Pat Buchanan is still an asshole and a bigot and an anti-Semite

and I don't agree with him on ANY cultural issues whatsoever, never have and never will. But when it comes to foreign policy...if he's right, he's right. Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day!

[RB TexLa]

34. ahhh, Pat probably has a cartoon in the holocaust contest and just wants

to make sure he gets it back with no burn marks.

[LSK]

35. look at all the DUers attacking the messenger

I thought the right only did that. And in this case we actually like the message.

[cali]

42. doh.

Would you use David Duke's pronouncements on Affirmative Action? There's nothing wrong with attacking Buchanan, and if you think DUers don't attack individuals- or messengers, as you call them- you must be blind. Hey, today alone we had a thread attacking Jill Carroll.

[Cha]

36. OT..I like your sig bumperstickers..

they say it all. I don't have a car anymore..can't afford the wherewithall, but I love it when cars are out there tellin' it like it with the bushtapo.

[amandabeech]

37. Pat's always been a critic of sending decent blue-collar jobs

overseas. He sees the social problems in doing that.

In some ways, he reminds me of Lou Dobbs, except Dobbs seems to like people who are not white non-Jewish men a little better than Pat does.

[catmandu57]

39. Irregardless of Buchanan

The chimp* does indeed believe he can go to war against who he wants when he wants, and that's scarey.

[bear425]

40. O/T I really like your bumperstickers, but

Why do you have a "W" The President one? Just curious. TIA

P.S. I prefer the one that says "F" The President

P.P.S I agree with Pat Buchanan

[Roland99]

41. Well, the top half of the "W" is supposed to be red w/blood but it's faded

[bear425]

43. Ohhh, I see that now. Ty. Makes sense to me now...n/t

[Bucky]

44. Real problem: Bush does not have the army to attack Iran

Seriously, it's not gonna happen.