John Dean on Lou Dobbs

[Zomby Woof]

Discussing Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience".

[LaurenG]

1. He's too cool

I love his take on authoritarian thinking.

[redqueen]

2. Two conservatives...

discussing how out-of-touch (to put it gently) "conservatives" are these days.

Think it'll sink in with the 33%'ers?

Somehow I doubt it, but there's always hope.

[Zomby Woof]

8. Strange days

And Dean had a point about Wilson... the Democrats were typically much more conservative before FDR. When it comes to authoritarian personalities, party and ideology are often secondary factors, although it was important that Dean noted as you get higher on the authoritarian scale of people listed, there are many more conservatives.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. The RW authoritarians here

Would have been left wing authoritarians in the Soviet Union. They use whatever power structure exists to impose their dominance.

[bobbolink]

13. You're so accurate. But, most don't want that mirror held up!

NOthing at all will change until that fact is faced.

In the final analysis, it isn't about Dem and Rep, about left and right.

It's authoritarianism, and the power of wealth.

[MissMarple]

17. The neocons have deep left roots.

Irving Kristol is Bill Kristol's father. After the 50's he and his friends all swung far right. It is the totalitarian thing, no doubt. Google Midge Decter. They are arrogant and totalitarian what ever side of the line they fall on.

[napi21]

3. Ohhh, Lou said the admin LIED! Somewone FINALLY said it!

GOOD FOR hIM!

[BuyingThyme]

4. Dean's book must be kicking ass.

[Poiuyt]

10. It's number 57 at Amazon

Must be low season for political books

[Zomby Woof]

5. Dobbs actually said "The Great Society did great things"

And added sincerely, "It was big government at its finest... and I don't mean that facetiously."

Interesting exchange.

[AX10]

11. Johnson's domestic policies were some of the greatest...

successes America has ever had. It was his foreign policy that was disasterous.

[bobbolink]

16. I remember being at one of the anti-Vietnam war rallies in Berkeley

during that time. As usual, there was shouting and signs against Johnson.

An older guy close to me said, rather quietly, "One of these days we'll wish we had Johnson back." I was amazed.

But, it didn't take all that long for me to see exactly what he was talking about. King Ronnie made it all too clear.

:hippie:

[Swamp Rat]

6. That sums up the GOP

If you're NOT a greedy mass-murdering sociopath, then get out of the GOP NOW, while you still have a soul.

[Subdivisions]

7. I was left a little

disappointed that they didn't have more time.

[oasis]

9. Lou uses the "L" word again. He said neocons "lied" us into war with Iraq.

[Disturbed]

14. Most Conservatives loath Bush/Cheney.

The Busholini Regime is Fascist!

[stopbush]

15. Sorry, but Lou pulled a RW diversion on John Dean,

asking him, "and yet, aren't two of the most-authoritarian figures you name in the book Democrats?" That question came
from Dobbs pretty much out of the gate. Dean didn't know who he was talking about (!), so Lou said FDR & Wilson. Dean then proceeded
to discuss them, but painted them as not authoritarian, but conservative.

I've seen at least 4 interviews with Dean on this book, and Lou's was the worst. He didn't let Dean discuss the main point of the book,
and closed with his typical "a pox on both their houses" centrism. Dobbs never let Dean get to the point to discuss Cheney, rummy, bush
and the others.

Lous gets a big raspberry from me today.

[bdamomma]

18. If John Dean's New book is anything like Worse than Watergate

I will immensly enjoy it, something about Dean I like, he's truthful.