"Snakes on a Plane". A movie like this breeds nothing but more ignorance

[mtnsnake]

Please don't move this thread to the Lounge.

I'm doing this post because I love snakes and I hate the assholes that are using these amazing creatures to make millions of dollars by playing on peoples fear of snakes combined with their fear of flying in the post-911 era. I love animals in general, but snakes are really special to me.

I hope whoever made this movie happen suffers bad luck the rest of their pitiful, greedy Hollywood careers. I don't care if they're Democrat or Republican.

How fucking dumb and greedy can Hollywood get? Make a gazillion dollars by feeding off people's fears. Let's see...people are afraid of terrorists. They're afraid of getting on planes. Hmm, lets find an animal that millions of people are afraid of and make a silly movie about those animals locked up on a plane with a cabin full of people.

Yup, I love snakes. I've had them as pets and have taken good care of many of them throughout my life. They are among the most fascinating animals on the face of the earth. If you know anything about snakes, they are arguably the cleanest animals on earth, too. Plus, they benefit mankind in many more ways than they could ever be a danger to us.

There are enough people scared of these animals already that the last thing we need is movie demonizing these splendid creatures. They go as far as making them into a form of terrorists. I'm sure that once this movie is history, future rattlesnake roundups in various states will reach epic proportions. Idiots all over the country will be killing anything they find in their yard that crawls for no other reason than the sake of killing something.

I love snakes. If I could get away with it, I'd lock up the producer of this idiotic farce in a cage with a hungry reticulated python. Whoever he or they are, they're lower than anything that ever crawled on this earth. To do something like this and have it take place on a plane is just irresponsible.

[ecstatic]

1. Just browsing Blockbuster--did you know about 'Snakes on a Train?' LOL

http://blockbuster.com/catalog/DisplayMovieSpecialOffers.action?channel=Movies&subChannel=&movieID=173817&displayBoxArt=true

[bleedingheart]

3. wow...I found a movie called.."Weasels Rip my Flesh"...

now that sounds dumb but makes me laugh reading the title....

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

31. Also the name of a Zappa album...

...but I don't know if the two are related.

[Buns_of_Fire]

33. Hmmmph. They ripped that title off from Frank Zappa.

Weasels Ripped My Flesh (Although I always preferred Burnt Weeny Sandwich -- Ian Underwood: "Gad! This is a tasty little sucker!")

On edit: And yibbehobba beat me by four minutes! Curses, foiled again! (I saw the Mothers in concert in Chicago during my college years -- and don't ask me how I managed to remember it! :smoke: )

[Jamastiene]

72. Frogs was (hands down) the dumbest of them all.

I resent the person who made that movie, because they wasted 2 hours of my life. I actually sat through it, only during the last 3/4 of it, I just laughed at the cheesy effects and repetitive use of the same bad video clip closeup of a frog and bad music that accompanied it. It was a truly bad movie.

[greguganus]

8. What's next? Snakes in Washington? Oops! Too late! n/t

[Jack from Charlotte]

144. Oh. I thought it was.... "SNACKS on a Plane." Small bags of pretzels,....

Those little, tiny bags of peanuts you need a butcher knife to open... That sort of thing.


I think "Snacks on a Plane".... could make a good scary movie, as well.

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. I'm saving up for "Weasels Rip My Flesh"

And I'm just starting a screenplay for "Ferrets In My Shorts" -- think Samuel L. Jackson would be interested?

[bleedingheart]

2. "How fucking dumb and greedy can Hollywood get?"---oh pretty dumb

and they will get even dumber...

You are upset about snakes...but think of how Hollywood has treated women..

[magellan]

4. Saw the preview on tv for it last week

Looks unbelievably stupid, another one well worth missing. Seems the best films anymore are indies or from overseas.

[-..__...]

46. "Looks unbelievably stupid".

No more stupid than anyone believing that the movie will foster more fear and hatred of snakes, or fear of flying.

As far as the movie being "unbelievably stupid"... I suspect that was the intention of the studio/producers... that it's meant to be a bit of mockery or statement that movies nowadays
suck (and they know how well "suck sells"... just look at the "Austin Powers" movies"), and that
people will watch anything.

The movie could end up sucking all the way to the bank.

[Connie_Corleone]

5. Sharks, snakes, rats, bats, bees, giant rabbits, roaches, etc.

Hollywood has been making these kind of movies for years.

Anaconda??

God forbid that Hollywood would make a movie to scare people. Perish the thought.

on edit: Snakes on a Plane will be the #1 movie next weekend.

[Scurrilous]

7. Let's not forget frogs:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068615/

[Connie_Corleone]

12. Oh yeah. LOL!

I love these movies because they're so stupid, they're funny.

[CatWoman]

18. hey!!! can we get a lil veggie love here?

[TheMadMonk]

69. Damn. Beat me to it.

My first thought was that the could get more bums on seats for a much smaller budget remaking this little gem.

Fellow in the OP. Get over it. Snakes get bad press. So do spiders and any number of beasties with more or less legs than we think they should have. If it, or a taxanomic relative has ever killed human, there'll be a movie.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

10. They have: I watched the movie "Fail Safe" again over the weekend.

Scariest movie I've ever seen.

[Bake]

91. Fail-Safe! Holy crap that was a great movie!

I watched it this weekend also, having read the book and first seen the movie decades ago. It is still a masterpiece.

Funny how some of the hawk types (I think it was Walter Matthau's character who wanted to take that opportunity to go ahead and finsih off Russia) seem awfully contemporary. Who'da thought there were neo-cons in the 60s?

Also funny (NOT!) was the disclaimer at the end: "It is the position of the Dept. of Defense that the type of event depicted in this film could never happen." I almost shat my pants!

Bake

[mtnsnake]

16. "Anaconda" didn't take advantage of 911 & didn't take place on a plane

I'm not trying to justify "Anaconda", since it was really dumb and unrealistic, too, but at least it only played off people's fear of a mythical giant out-of-proportion snake and had nothing to do with taking advantage of people locked up on a plane with that post-911 fear of planes being a main ingredient in their fears, if not being the precipitating catalyst.

[Kali]

127. people have been afraid of planes since they were invented

not sure about the 9-11 connection, at any rate, think about how much good objecting to a movie does...think about fundies getting riled about the Life of Brian. or F911 - it just generates more ticket sales, nothing more.

[LeftyMom]

and dolphins!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076504/

[JNelson6563]

139. And ROUS

Rats Of Unusual Size. (Isn't that what they were called in the Princess Bride?)

[NYCGirl]

6. What about "Snakes on a Cake"? (note: adult language on the cake)

http://www.slashfood.com/2006/08/12/snakes-cake-snakes-on-a-cake/

[htuttle]

39. BWWWAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!

!

[wtmusic]

113. That is too MFing funny

:thumbsup: :rofl:

[JuniperLea]

9. I don't like spiders and snakes

No movie caused that "ignorance". I just don't like them. Never have, never will.

My sister kept and loved spiders when she was a kid, and she kept and loved snakes as an adult. She loves them. I hate them. No movie influenced that. She kept rats too. I hate rats. I've hated them even before movies like "Ben". Rats smell and their feet are cold. The movie didn't smell, nor was there any mention of the temperature of the feet of rats.

I love movies that scare me. But I hate spiders and snakes so much that I will never, ever go to see a movie wherein they "star".

I don't think movies will influence the way people see any of these creatures. I think movie makers play on already existing fears.

[mtnsnake]

24. Spiders spook me, too, but they're also amazing creatures. I'm sure

as we speak, someone is thinking up a theme for a movie concerning spiders on a plane, and following that movie, spiders, too, will be feared more than they ever were for sake of yet another silly movie.

It's one thing to further demonize a species that so many people are afraid of, but to use planes as a means of doing it in this day and age is pretty lame.

[northzax]

11. so let me get this straight

you think the movie is unfair and unrepresentative of snakes, and the appropriate punishment would be for the producer to be locked in a cage with a hungry snake. I presume that your hungry articulated python would extract some level of physical revenge on the producer? maybe attack him and eat him? like the ones on the plane? one of these things doesn't go with the other...

seriously, this movie is unfair to snakes the way that the DaVinci code was unfair to Catholics.

[mtnsnake]

29. My concern is that snakes will be vilified more than ever after this movie

especially since it's taking advantage of people's fear of flying and terrorists. It's certainly not going to cause people to be more tolerant towards snakes.

[northzax]

41. the same snakes

that you threaten to have eat someone?

it's a B rank horror movie. relax.

[mtnsnake]

47. Yeah the same snake

the one I mentioned, a hungry reticulated python, that I'd love to see in a cage with the producer.

Enjoy the movie.

[TheWatcher]

49. Believe me, I plan on it.

It's nothing more than just fun entertainment. The Net has been a buzz about it for a couple of years.

It's harmless.

Lighten up and focus on more important issues.

[mtnsnake]

64. Enjoy the movie

It's harmless.

Hey as long as it's harmless to snakes after the fact, I sincerely hope you have a good time.

[TheWatcher]

70. I seriously doubt that Snakes are going to suffer because of this film.

[nam78_two]

125. Why don't YOU focus on more important stuff?

You keep posting over and over in this thread, while telling other people to do more productive things :eyes:

[wryter2000]

147. It's reticulated python

And it would probably sit quietly coiled up in a corner.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. So basically what you're saying is...

you've had it with these motherfucking snakes... on this motherfucking plane?

[SidDithers]

19. LOL...

:applause:

Very nice. :)

Sid

[Orrex]

15. Hollywood has never been scrupulous in its accuracy

Evil Snakes are only one of a zillion examples. Find me a "historical" film that's actually accurate. I can't think of one.

Worse, in my mind, is the fact that the CGI snakes are so lame and obvious that it's clear that the film's makers didn't care at all about the quality of the product. As dumb as the premise is, it's not entirely inconceivable that an interesting film might have come from it. But when the effects look no better than a video game demo from ten years ago, I call that pretty damned cheap.

[sam sarrha]

17. this is a phenomenon that happens when governments go fascist..

[skooooo]

22. America has loved its ignorance long before this admin.

Can't blame this one on Bush, sorry.

[NoPasaran]

27. Of course

Who can forget Leni Reifenstahl's infamous "Snakes an der Autobahn"?

[Buns_of_Fire]

20. Don't forget "Night of the Lepus" -- killer bunnies!

Co-Starring DeForest Kelley ("Yep, they ate him, Jim.") http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069005/

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. It can have an opposite effect.

I love the movie "Jaws", it's my all time favorite film. It scared the hell out of me as a kid, and I'm still not fond of swimming in the ocean. But it also made me fascinated with sharks, and now I read and watch anything I can about these marvelous creatures.

[mtnsnake]

42. That is also one of my favorite movies, too

It only took advantage of people's fear of the animal, though, and didn't take advantage of their fear of a current day world event such as flying on a plane in the post 911 era.

As much as there was some unnecessary killing of sharks after that, there was also as much education about that beautiful amazing species, too, as you said in your post.

Having said that, coming across a snake in real life...and killing it...is much more apt to happen than encountering a shark, though.

[Name removed]

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[greguganus]

30. Gay? Why are you using gay to describe a movie you dont like? n/t

[CatWoman]

32. not only that

but he brags that he loves to "shoot Libtards"

[TheWatcher]

38. I'd LOVE to see him try to shoot this "Libtard"

Anytime, anywhere you worthless, souless piece of shit.

I can guarantee you this, after that meeting, one of us would still be able to Post on a Message board with both hands.

It wouldn't be you.

[Jamastiene]

88. It probably wouldn't hurt that poster

to know that some liberals shoot back without reservation.

[TheWatcher]

99. And with extreme prejudice.

I can guarantee you not one of them, NOT ONE OF THEM will ever have the guts to back up any of the crap they spew from behind their keyboard.

Because somewhere in the vast vacuum between their ears is a conscious knowing that such a move would be the quickest way to have said guts separated from them.

Cowards. The Whole Lot Of them.

It's why they worship Bush. He's one of them.

[bigwillq]

I just noticed that!

:eyes:

[TheWatcher]

34. Your Post Looks Offensive.

I notice you put the slur in all Caps.

Very telling.

You may love guns, but spelling and grammar seem to be on your hate list I see.

Bigots On A Board.

[wicket]

36. Hi there homophobe!

Kindly go fuck yourself, kthanxbye.

:nopity:

[wryter2000]

150. Damn, I always miss the ignert ones

Sounds as if y'all had a winner there.

[xchrom]

37. c'mere you big macho freak you -- let's slip each other some tongue!

[TahitiNut]

44. Just passing through?

:eyes:

[TheWatcher]

52. Like Harsh Mexican Food through the digestive tract apparently.

Pretty Explosive, but he moved quickly at least.

[TahitiNut]

57. Well, we know where he gets his "moral fiber".

It's second-hand. :evilgrin:

[TheWatcher]

60. *Zing*

:)

[Ganja Ninja]

45. Bye!

[bigwillq]

48. He's gone!

:bounce:

[Jamastiene]

90. Bye bye now.

Don't come back, you hear?

[ChiciB1]

25. I Was Bitten By A Black Snake A Couple Of Weeks Ago....

my FIRST experience of such a close encounter. I'm a female, although not one who's all the prissy, but while walking across my lawn the bugger just bit me. It didn't run away, and I just looked back to see what I had bumped into because it didn't even hurt! Here in Florida, black snakes are protected and we never run them off, they keep a lot of bugs and tree rats away I think. I know I have 2 running around the house most of the time, but this was in the yard.

It poked it's head up kind like a prairie dog and stayed there looking at me as I looked back at it. What really surprised me was my non-reaction to the whole event. I would have thought a natural reaction would be to kind of "freak" but I just went about talking to my neighbor who had called me over.

Obviously, black snakes are not poisonous but I thought I should find out what I needed to do because it actually bit me 2 times in a very quick time. It did bleed, but NEVER even bothered me in any way, but I was told I needed to get a tetanus shot. So I did.

I have never been very afraid of snakes myself, but I do think had it been a more lethal snake, I probably would have gone to the doctor right away. I was always taught, snakes DON'T seek you out, they just react when you come upon them. It's THEIR fear that makes them bite you.

Just thought I would share, it was a new experience for and I really don't know why I was so calm about it.

[mtnsnake]

63. You're a cool customer

and you deserve all the credit in the world for not freaking after your incident. I've been bitten by

Most snakes will only bite you if they feel threatened, like if you step on one or surprise it close up. Some species are pretty cross, though, especially some species of snakes that live around water. Those kinds you don't want to suprise at close range or they might bite. Most land constrictors like pythons and boas are pretty placid around humans and try to avoid them, although anacondas, which live around water, are ornery in general if encountered. So are water moccasins.

[wryter2000]

154. Good for you

You were way cool about it. You're right...any snake bite should be checked out.

Snakes do bite if they're scared or you smell like their food. (Not likely in your case, but handlers who also handle the snake's food often have that problem.)

What people in this thread don't realize is that to a snake lover, a movie about killing snakes feels the same as watching a bunch of kittens hacked to bits. (And kittens have done more of a number on my hand with their sharp claws than my snakes have ever done. In fact, they've never bitten me.)

[mtnsnake]

160. Responses like yours are greatly appreciated because

not only is yours an educated response, but you know exactly where I was coming from with my OP. Thank you.

What people in this thread don't realize is that to a snake lover, a movie about killing snakes feels the same as watching a bunch of kittens hacked to bits.

You just nailed it

[wryter2000]

163. I do respect that some folks are scared of snakes

And I'd never impose my animals on them. All I ask is that they treat snakes the way I treat spiders. I wish the animal well and walk away.

[-..__...]

26. Snake exploitation!

Damn Hollywood low-lifes! What won't they do for the almighty $$$$!?

:eyes:

[BlooInBloo]

28. What's with the WATBs these days? It's FICTION!

Do we also hate Cujo, Lassie, Mr. Ed, and all the rest for depicting false scenes about animals?

christ - what a nation of wusses we've become.

[mtnsnake]

93. The people who are wusses

are the people who needlessly kill snakes because they're afraid of them.

what a nation of wusses we've become

The people who are wusses are the people who will only watch this movie because they're afraid of snakes. To the people who watch it for sheer entertainment value, well, they're not wussies, and I hope they enjoy the movie and use their heads about snakes in the future.

[wicket]

35. I for one will be there opening night

It's just a freakin' movie! :crazy:

[TheWatcher]

68. I will be there as well.

We bought our tickets last Thursday for the Opening Night at Cinerama in Seattle.

I simply cannot understand what the point of getting so bent out of shape over this particular movie is.

America The Overreacting.

[tnlefty]

40. I don't love snakes, but I do respect them. We've had a king snake

living under our porch for about 5 yrs. and between him and the cats we have far fewer mice around! I don't want a snake in my house, nor do I want dangerous snakes around my house.

I detest the indiscriminate killing of snakes and those rattlesnake roundups should be banned outright. Hopefully your prediction of roundups and killing of snakes won't occur.

[mtnsnake]

102. King snakes are awesome snakes

and your post is awesome, too.

I detest the indiscriminate killing of snakes and those rattlesnake roundups should be banned outright.

Amen!

[AngryAmish]

43. Thanks for the tip!

This movie looks so cool. I can't wait until it gets out. THanks.

[mtnsnake]

56. Enjoy the movie

[deaniac21]

50. That producer is a snake in the grass! He is lower than a

snake's belly.

[TheWatcher]

55. Yeah, he's a real Snake Oil Salesman

[NewJeffCT]

51. Umm, it's not being marketed as a serious movie

I mean, it's snakes on a god damn plane. How seriously can you take a movie with that name? Were you expecting "Gandhi," or maybe the snake version of "Gorillas in the Mist"?

What"s next? Will you complain that "Animal House" gives fraternities a bad name? This is a B movie and it is being marketed as such.

Besides, just about every animal out there has had movies about them where they have gone wild, or mutated, and started killing people: "Cujo" - "Jaws" - "Orca" - "Them!" - "Arachnophobia" -

I mean, there is a whole sub-genre of shark movies

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

58. Maybe a remake of scarface?

Snakes on Cocaine?

[bleedingheart]

65. I just saw the commercial ...it looks pretty hilarious and over the top

[Poll_Blind]

82. "Snakes in the Mist on a Plane"- I would see THAT movie! n/t

PB

[Poll_Blind]

53. "I love snakes" + "Kill producer with snake". Are you Cobra Commander?

HISSSSSSSS!

PB

[TheWatcher]

59. You Dare Defy The Power of Cobra?

[mtnsnake]

71. haha, I didn't say "kill" the producer with a snake

You're just correctly assuming who the victor would be if the producer was locked up with a hungry reticulated python. I couldn't give a snakes's ass about your analogy.

[TheWatcher]

80. And it's a safe bet that he doesn't give a Snakes Ass about your

opinion of the film. :)

But like you said, we'll enjoy the movie.

I hear World Trade Center is a real hoot.

Go see that and tell us how they did with the Propaganda. :hi:

[boolean]

54. Yeah, but Samuel L. Jackson is in it!!

Come on now. This movie is badass. Motherfuckin' snakes on a motherfuckin' PLANE!

[TheWatcher]

62. It's going to be a lot of fun I think

I simply don't understand why we cannot simply lighten up and have a good time.

A lot of us NEED some good, fun entertainment right now, and a lot of us have been waiting a long time to see this film. The Internet Buzz on this film was going hot for years, and this film was a really fun and surprising phenomenon long before you became so "concerned" about it.

There is enough in the world to be concerned about that needs our serious attention.

Please put the Wet Blanket in the dryer, and see this for what it is.

Harmless.

[wicket]

67. Agree completely

Have you seen the wikipedia entry on the movie? -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_on_a_plane

I almost bust a gut laughing :rofl:

[TheWatcher]

75. The Fun Thing about the film is that Samuel L. Jackson is sole responsible

for the film having it's name.

Snakes On A Plane was the WORKING TITLE for the Film.

The FIlm was actually going to be called Pacific Air Flight 121, and then just Flight 121.

But Samuel L. Jackson approached the Powers That Be and said the only reason he Signed up for the film was because of the name, and that if they didn't keep it, he'd walk.

And He Struck Down Upon Them With GREAT VENGEANCE and FURIOUS ANGER, Because they attempted to change the name of the Film.

And now they found out why they call him the King Of Cool. :)

[Buns_of_Fire]

133. THIS... is going to be the biggest film franchise since James Bond!

(from the Wikipedia article, link above)

On June 3, 2006, Samuel L. Jackson said, while presenting the award for best movie at the MTV Movie Awards, "I'm here tonight to present the award everyone's been waiting for: best movie. Now, this award holds a special place in my heart because next year I'll be winning it for Snakes on a Plane. Now I know, I know that sounds cocky, but I don't give a damn. I am guaranteeing that Snakes on a Plane will win best movie next year. Does not matter what else is coming out. The New James Bond... no snakes in that! Ocean's 13... where my snakes at? Shrek the Third... green, but not a snake. No movie shall triumph over Snakes on a Plane. Unless I happen to feel like making a movie called Mo' Motha-fuckin' Snakes on Mo' Motha-fuckin' Planes."

Now that is confidence! :thumbsup:

[negativenihil]

61. will somebody PLEASE think of the snakes?!?!

Please- get over yourself. This movie is nothing more than an unpretentious popcorn summer movie.
This just goes to show - make a movie, ANY MOVIE, and you're bound to stir up someone who'll find some reason to bitch about it.
I mean really - i love dogs - but i also enjoyed Cujo.

Anyway i'll be seeing Snakes on a Plane opening night! I am so looking forward to it. Should be a great time especially with a rowdy audience.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

66. No need to be harsh.

The OP is simply unappy that Hollywood holds Snakes in Disdain.

[negativenihil]

76. And i'm unhappy that people can't lighten up and enjoy a movie...

without finding some fault or un-politically correct angle.

I guess we're even :P

[mtnsnake]

78. Thanks. That's pretty much it

I like snakes, nothing more, nothing less. Movies like this will no doubt cause more needless snake killings by people who show such ignorance as the author of post #61 does.

[TheWatcher]

84. I don't think anyone has a problem with your love for snakes

Hell I love Snakes as well, but to call someone ignorant because he wants to go see this movie and enjoy it, and not jump on your overblown activist concern bandwagon of what it will do to the snake population is patently absurd.

My God, who died and appointed you Ministry Of No Fun Allowed?

You are over the line with the personal insult there.

[mtnsnake]

109. I never said anyone is ignorant for going to see the movie

I said movies like this breed more ignorance. If you're going to make a claim about what I said, get it right.

You're an idiot. Take that to the bank.

[Name removed]

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[mtnsnake]

136. Oh boy, we have ourselves here an internet tough guy

Real brave stuff there coming from the safety of your basement.

Run along

[TheWatcher]

138. Oh would you please spare me the macho theatrics

Trust me, I'd happily go nose to nose with you any day of the week and express the same sentiment.

MAKE ME run along.

You are more than welcome to give it a shot.

[mtnsnake]

146. I'm just trembling here in my boots at the words

of some "internet tough-guy", but most likely nothing but another real-life PUNK like yourself.

:eyes:

[TheWatcher]

152. I suppose now I am suppose to cower and hide because of the rippling

majesty of your keyboard muscles.

Half-Witted name calling is all you seem to have, little boy.

So what shall we do now, continue to trade meaningless threats over the ether?

It's not like it's possible for you to back any of your big words up, for nothing ever comes of skirmishes like this. What are you going to do, come to Seattle and hunt down justice because someone bitch slapped you for needlessly attacking and insulting people who did nothing more than disagree with you?

Yes, you're such a Man's Man aren't you?

I don't think I'll ever have much to fear from the likes of you.

[mtnsnake]

157. haha, whatever

Nice try at turning the tables. Nobody's buying it, but knock yourself out.

[TheWatcher]

162. What is there to buy? What in the world are you trying to prove?

Nobody's buying what? So now we should get in a real life fight over this?

What is it you think you could accomplish with me? Like I said, what are you going to do, travel to Seattle and attempt to show me how big and manly you are over something that you are at fault for instigating in the first place? Because of a skirmish on a message board?

What in the hell is wrong with you?

I'll stand by what I said about saying the same to you in public I would here, because that is a definite. but is that what you are actually driving for? Are you insane? Or are so so insecure in yourself that you must have that to feel like your manhood has been demonstrated? Honestly.

What shall I do now, PM you my address so you can show me what a real-life punk I am? How far do you actually want to take this you boorish sap?

You are unbeleivable.

[negativenihil]

117. Right...

Here is your quote, in case you've forgotten:
"Movies like this will no doubt cause more needless snake killings by people who show such ignorance as the author of post #61 does."

Feel free to clarify your statement :P

[Name removed]

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[TheWatcher]

101. I must say I second that motion.

At first I thought this post was just an overreaction and a bit of overblown concern.

It has broken down into outright Paranoia.

Seek help.

[RaleighNCDUer]

145. While I appreciate the sentiment, I think it is a bit misplaced.

People who hate and fear snakes are not going to have thier minds changed by a movie. People who do not hate and fear snakes are not going to rush out and start killing them because of a movie.

I work in a Nat. Sci. museum and get to see all kinds of people reacting in all kinds of ways to the assorted creepy-crawlies we have here. And I'm always surprised at the number of intelligent, educated people who would kill a snake as soon as look at it; then, again, the people who go on rattlesnake roundups think they know alot about snakes, too.

But a movie is just a movie -- and it's fun to go to a movie where half the audience is sitting on their feet.

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[TheWatcher]

94. What is your problem?

He didn't insult you personally, he merely disagreed with your assessment and your opinion.

Jesus Christ, LAY OFF. You are blowing this WAY out of proportion and now the name calling.

Here's a helpful hint for you:

There are decaffeinated brands on the market that taste JUST AS GOOD AS THE REAL THING.

Chill.

[negativenihil]

98. HAH So i'm a dipshit for wanting to enjoy a summer movie?

You're exactly the sort of person that gives the left a bad name :P

[TheWatcher]

103. As far as I'm concerned with a reactionary attitude and affinity

for displays of outright Paranoia like that, I think his car pulls to the right when he takes his hands off the wheel.

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[negativenihil]

119. Sounds likie someone didn't get their drama fix this weekend...

Might i recommend some daytime tv? maybe a soap opera or two will hold you over...

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[wicket]

100. Wow, WTF???

:eyes:

[TheWatcher]

111. This Thread Officially gets my vote for Most Useless Topic Of The Day

Honestly.

Inches away from World War III, Psychopathic Criminals with a hard on for Nuclear War running our country, an ever crumbling economy, the Constitution, our Democracy, and our ENTIRE WAY OF LIFE hanging by a thread, the ever emerging threat of a Totalitarian, Authoritarian, Theocracy hanging like a Dark Cloud over our heads, Global Warming, etc, etc, ec, and THIS is what you want to focus on like a Laser?

Here's a Movie Title that fits the OP quite nicely:

[nam78_two]

116. Hey there

I see that unlike the OP you are taking time to work on all those issues eh?
Maybe you are but from a post on a message board I don't see how anyone can decide that someone is : paranoid, cuckoo etc.

I see you taking the time to post rude remarks in this thread over and over...but the OP is the only one "wasting time" eh :eyes:

In the balance defending snakes against possible abuse, paranoid or not, is a better cause than being rude to people over a crappy hollywood movie eh? Or starting to psychoanalyze people based on a post on a message board? I don't know anything about you, but the OP's posts in this thread make more sense than yours. However, I haven't decided your psychological profile based on a post on a msg board....sheesh...

Talk about selfrighteous...

[mtnsnake]

124. Much appreciated

Thanks for the assist and for making good sense.

:toast:

[nam78_two]

131. People like this guy bug the hell out of me

I don't understand how someone posting rude remarks on what is at least a well-intentioned (and as a naturalist, imo at least a good thread) thread, gets off being self-righteous like this: "Oh why don't you do something more useful"? Why doesn't he then eh?

Ugh....
Ok I am done wasting my time on him :)....


Anyway your thread got a good few kicks mtnsnake and thank YOU for taking the time to care :toast: :).Have a good day!
Snakes rule :)!!!

[TheWatcher]

140. Unbelievable

He's the one that starts hurling insults at someone for simply disagreeing with him, and now I'm the bad guy for calling him on it.

Give me a break.

[TheWatcher]

130. Oh would you please get OVER YOURSELF

What issues am I working out when he's the one who started insulting people because they disagreed with his opinion?

And as far as my rude remarks go, they were in response to his completely overblown response to those that disagreed with him. Get a clue.

And no one is going to dispute that being concerned about possible snake abuse is an unworthy cause, but to claim that this movie is going to have a direct hand in that is ABSURD, and to call people ignorant, dipshit, and idiot, simply because they disagree with that assessment and can look at the film from a rational point of view and see it for what it is (Harmless Entertainment), is ridiculous as well, and totally uncalled for.

And you're right, you don't know anything about me, but if you honestly think the original poster's immature and uncalled for attacks on other posters in this thread for simply disagreeing with his opinions and assessments is reasonable and makes sense, then you are out to lunch.

Now kindly get out of my face.

[nam78_two]

134. Your responses are completely illogical

You are telling people to spend their time in better ways, while spending your time telling them how to spend their time :eyes:
I didn't say you have issues...breathe...take the time to read..
I said none of us knows what issues the other is dealing with or working on because this is a message board .

Have a good day...this is boring now.

[TheWatcher]

143. Why don't you take the time to read.

I love how you are completely dancing around the one fact you cannot defend and cannot address.

mtnsnake was the one who STARTED the hostilities to begin wiht by insulting and name calling for absolutely no reason.

And I'm sorry to inconvenience you or waste your time.

I don't remember asking for your input or your opinion.

Good Day.

[mtnsnake]

151. You're a chronic liar

All anyone has to do to see that is read your posts and they'll see who precipitated the bullshit.

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[mtnsnake]

121. Yeah, & NINETEEN posts by you on it. LMAO!!!

Your 19 responses are just about the most worthless uneducated responses I've ever seen on this forum.

By the time this post is done, you'll probably have puked out a few more!

[nam78_two]

122. I have posted a couple of alerts on his RUDE responses/nt

[mtnsnake]

129. Thanks

Just replied to you in your other post.

All anyone has to do to figure out where posters like TheWatcher are really coming from is by looking at the number of posts they have scattered all over the thread to different posters, not just to me. Posters like them have nothing to offer but chronic whining that's out of control like a disease.

I won't forget your support :)

[TheWatcher]

148. Wow, I am so fervently Scared

Captain Pureheart has alerted me for defending another poster and calling someone out for unwarranted insults and personal attacks that were made on me and another poster for no other reason than we disagreed with him. he starts a flame war, and we get alerted.

I suppose I should expect Bush and Cheney to invade my neighborhood for possessing Words Of Mass Destruction.

[negativenihil]

132. LOL

So it's "uneducated" to NOT get all reactionary over a "stupid" summer movie?

Wow. Just, wow.

[TheWatcher]

137. Really. And let's take a look at your educated responses shall we?

"I hope whoever made this movie happen suffers bad luck the rest of their pitiful, greedy Hollywood careers. I don't care if they're Democrat or Republican."

"If I could get away with it, I'd lock up the producer of this idiotic farce in a cage with a hungry reticulated python. Whoever he or they are, they're lower than anything that ever crawled on this earth."

"Movies like this will no doubt cause more needless snake killings by people who show such ignorance as the author of post #61 does."

"Give me a choice between a snake and yourself
I take the snake over a dipshit like you 7 days a week and twice on sunday."

"You're simply a dipshit."

The cantankerous exchanges started because you started them half-wit. You called somebody ignorant and a dipshit because he didn't agree with your reactionary concern over what is nothing more than a harmless fun summer movie.

If anyone looks like an uneducated, reactionary asshole it is you.

As far as my intelligence and intellect goes, I'll put mine up against your sorry ass any day of the week.

And the sad and pathetic thing is. I AGREE with your love and concern of Snakes! They are beautiful creatures and there IS an irrational fear that people have of them. I don't think anyone disputes your passion or your love for snakes. It's a wonderful thing.

Your approach toward people who disagree with you is asinine, though.

You may believe in good causes, but your abrasive attitude makes people overlook the good that you do.

[mtnsnake]

149. I stand by every single response I made to you. nt

[TheWatcher]

161. And I stand by mine to you.

You were an asshole. You got called on it.

And now you want to have some kind of a bar brawl over it.

Grow up.

[Blue-Jay]

164. Get a room, lovebirds.

:bounce:

[greguganus]

159. I'm waiting for "Puppies On A Plane" to complain n/t

[lonestarnot]

73. Snakes on a motherfucking plane. This is about the stupidest idea for

a movie I've ever heard. And no I won't be going to see no motherfucking snakes on a plane. Yuck.

[beyurslf]

74. I love dogs but just watched Cujo and loved it. Maybe I'll go beat my dog

now. Be back later :)

[TlalocW]

77. I'm guessing you're not going to see the sequel then

Mongooses on a Plane: Riki Tiki Tavi's Revenge

TlalocW

[Jamastiene]

81. That is weird.

Well, there was a story recently about a snake in a post office, I think. I guess that's different though. :eyes:

I like snakes too, although I have never had one as a pet. I would have a hard time feeding one animal to another animal like that, but I do like snakes basically. I saw anaconda and wasn't affected much. It was a cheesy movie. A lot of those movies are just destined to end up in the cut out bin at your local movie store for a dollar.

Don't worry about the movie causing that sort of widespread roundup of snakes. People already have that attitude. The movie won't give them any more of those feelings than they already have. It is unfortunate that people do that. Snakes serve a meaningful purpose in life unlike the people who go out of their way to indiscriminately kill them for no good reason.

[mtnsnake]

89. Thanks for the post

Well said.

[Tellurian]

83. Oh-oh- Samuel L. Jackson's wife must have wanted a bigger house..

or he took the role because Julianne Margolis was part of the cast..
Anywaay...hee, heee, hahahahaha!
snakes....yoweeee!

[Blue-Jay]

85. Won't someone PLEASE think of the snakes?!?!

:eyes:

(on this motherfuckin' plane)

[Poll_Blind]

86. I'm pro-snake too but we must not give in to herpaterrorism! n/t

PB

[sofa king]

87. You're arguing against the biological truth.

People hate snakes, that's a fact. Spiders, too. It's becoming increasingly apparent that revulsion for these two critters comes from our evolutionary past.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/10/1004_snakefears.html
http://www.apa.org/releases/snakes.html

I think snakes are really cool, too, and the spiders are free to roam my room except near my bed. But many people experience genuine feelings of revulsion when they see these creatures, and for some, it's beyond their control. Snakes know it, Hollywood producers know it, and Sam Motherfuckin' Jackson knows it.

I think the snakes will be just fine, so long as they stay out of the First Class section in the future.

[wtmusic]

107. War, murder, and rape are also wonderful by-products

of our evolutionary past. OP believes maybe it's time to get over the fearmongering (funny, you don't see this kind of silly thing coming out of other countries...)

Personally it wouldn't bother me much if the snakes weren't killed...but that's unlikely. I'll never know, 'cuz I'd never pay a dime to watch that crap.

[sofa king]

158. You folks have to relax.

Edit: I forgot what I wanted to say to begin with: war and murder are entire genres of filmmaking, worldwide.

Look, if we want to talk about ignorance and silly shit in films, how come we're not talking about that stupid film which involves evil, supernatural computer screen savers? Think of the computer montitors!

Maybe you don't see this kind of silly thing coming out of other countries, but just a few nights ago I watched City of the Walking Dead, a fine Italian zombie film in which the zombies always, always run, everywhere. You're obviously unfamiliar with Japanese tentacle-sex cartoons, too.

Come to think of it, how come we're not handing the Japanese a load of crap for giving large reptiles in general a bad rap?

Hollywood might have the market cornered on big-budget pieces of shit, but I promise you, every other film industry makes silly, useless, animal-unfriendly films. Some just can't afford to make theirs suck as bad as ours.

[Taxloss]

92. The power of movies is that they allow the viewer to experience and

confront their fears in perfect safety. One of the first films ever made showed a steam engine approaching the camera at speed. Audiences panicked and fled the theatre - then returned to enjoy it again, and again. This film will promote no more ill-feelings against our herpetoid friends than Eight Legged Freaks promoted fear of spiders.

Fear as entertainment is as old as the hunting tale in the cave with the wild beasts painted on the wall. It is part of what makes us human.

[knitter4democracy]

96. Um . . . isn't it a farce?

I mean, it sure looks like it's a farce. It's not real, not meant to be real, and it's already a catchphrase for crazy-stupid behavior.

My fave blog post on this:
http://www.crazyauntpurl.com/archives/2006/07/snakes.php

Seriously--this movie isn't going to make things worse. It will, though, if people take it seriously. Instead, lump it along with all the other B or C horror flicks that are just camp anymore.

[Bake]

97. They didn't make the film to make people afraid of snakes

They made the film because people ARE afraid of snakes. Always have been, always will be. It goes back at least as far as the Garden of Eden mythology.

I can't wait to see this movie. I expect it to be so bad that it's fun! And let's just say that while I'm not terrified of snakes, I do have a healthy respect for them (OK, I'm scared sh*tless of poisonous snakes and I can tell the difference). But I'd hate to be trapped on a plane with a bunch of 'em!

Bake

[RebelOne]

104. I agree. Snakes make great pets. At one time, I had two boa constrictors.

But when they grew too big — 7 feet long — I gave them to an environmental center for kids for hands-on instruction.

[nam78_two]

105. I support you :)

Whatever many of the people sneering upstream this thread may say, movies and books breed a lot of abuse towards many kinds of animals (and people). It just receives much less attention when its animals.
I read a report from Defenders of Wildlife a while ago about how negative images of animals in "harmless popcorn movies" do signifiicantly increase incidents of abuse.

As for the argument, "Aren't there more important things to worry about" :eyes:, a) One can worry about smaller issues while worrying about bigger ones, not mutually exclusive and
b) worrying about something like this is helluva alot better than taking that time to post unpleasant, rude, snarky remarks on someone else's thread. If one doen't agree, I still don't see why some respect for the OP is impossible to muster up. :eyes:

Its well known that snakes are among some of the most abused creatures:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/001-099/nb036.htm


I won't be watching this movie. Good on you for taking the time to care :thumbsup: :) :hi:
We animal activists/environmentalists gotta stick together :).
Btw if you are worried about animal abuse in general, well you probaby know this anyway, bt if not check out:
http://www.factoryfarming.com
http://www.farmsanctuary.org

[mtnsnake]

115. Thank you

Many of the people "upstream" in this thread are the same people on this forum who do nothing but piss and moan about everything under the sun, but never lift their lazy whining butts off their computer chairs to do a single constructive thing in their lives.

[nam78_two]

118. Agreed

Usually people wo trivialize any cause with "aren't there better things to do", do nothing but bitch and whine...
Again :thumbsup:! Have a nice day :)!

[Midlodemocrat]

106. I hate snakes. Sorry. Inbred fear I guess. I hate mice too.

[mtnsnake]

112. I have nothing agains anyone like you

I respect your fear.

[Gregorian]

108. I thought The Nutty Professor was great!

And look how I turned out.

The worst thing about Snakes on a Plane is how low Samuel Jackson has stooped. Otherwise, it has been a barrel of laughs already.


edit- Oh yeah. You are correct to a degree. Where is that solid culture? Where is that television show on algebra? Now I honestly believe math shows would be a big hit. But it might take time. I'm serious. Stop laughing at me! :)

[kwolf68]

123. Im not a snake person like you...

But I totally hear you....I don't like the way Wolves, snakes, sharks, whales, etc... have been portrayed in the past.

Making fairy-tales about these animals desensitizes humans when we need to exterminate them. Don't think for a 2nd "Little Red Riding Hood" didn't help ease the concerns of slaughtering hundres of millions of Wolves.

Snakes are in a worse shape than are Wolves, because in the face of a Wolf we see the genesis of our own pet Dogs (as dogs evolved from Wolves). Wolves (and now whales, etc) are "cute and cuddy", so they are easier to protect.

Snakes and other reptiles and even amphibians don't have the "cuddle" factor and that is where ignorance drives me crazy. I do everything I can to protect all animals, even the ones not cute and cuddly.

I won't watch this movie either, because its nothing more than a modern-day Jaws set to the tune of this amazing reptile. At least the maker of Jaws became a strong shark conservationist in his later days and understood the myths that he perpetrated with his movie.

[mtnsnake]

135. This is the kind of response I was hoping for but instead got 20-something

responses of immature jibberish from one poster, TheWatcher, who have nothing better to do than bitch and moan about what other posters think but have ZERO to offer in real life.

Thank you for your post. It was well expressed.

[nam78_two]

153. Great post/nt

[meisje]

126. Snake Juggling? YYYEEEEEEEAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGG!

[Withywindle]

128. I understand where you're coming from, but...

...I never got the impression this was supposed to be a serious horror movie. All the hype and buzz is so tongue-in-cheek. Maybe at one point it was meant to really scare people, but then the producers realized they'd get a bigger audience by selling it as camp. So I don't really think it seriously plays on people's fears. United 93, now THAT seemed exploitative.

I love snakes too, so believe me, I hate the idea of encouraging people's fears about them too. But the people who are really phobic are not going to see this movie! I have a friend who's got it bad - she can't even look at pictures of them. No way is she going to see it! I'm the same way about spiders - I know it's irrational, but I just can't cope. (There's about 10 minutes of the third LOTR film that I've never actually seen except with my hands over my eyes, no matter how many times I've seen the rest of it. :blush: I sure as hell knew better than to go see 'Arachnophobia' or 'Eight Legged Freaks.') That doesn't mean I don't know that indiscriminately killing them is wrong, and I don't do it.

[wryter2000]

141. I love snakes, too

I have two pet corn snakes, and they're the sweetest, gentlest creatures you could ever hope to meet. Plus, if it weren't for corn snakes a lot of people would have died from having their grain eaten by mice and rats -- or worse, having the rodent feces spoil the corn leading to horrible diseases. People are finally figuring out that those horrid rattlesnake round-ups lead to an increase in the rodent population and consequent human disease. (I don't hate rodents, but you have to respect the danger of disease they represent.)

I stay away from hots because they're dangerous, but I do love to look at them and their pictures because they're stunning animals.

And I'll tell you, there's not much better than having a snake give you a shoulder massage after a hard day at work.

[Gemini Cat]

142. I miss Mystery Science Theater 3000. nt

[leftofthedial]

155. I feel the same way about Creature from the Black Lagoon

I love creatures! :loveya: Peoples' fear of amphibious hominid hybrids is fueled by ignorance and exploited by horrible movie makers.


Umm. It's a movie.

[NobleCynic]

165. ...wow

I think you miss the point of the movie, as judging from its camp title. It can't possibly be meant to be taken seriously.

I think you also overestimate the influence of media if you think this will inspire Simpson's style "wacking days".

Get a sense of humor. You'll live longer.

[lostnfound]

166. Locking

Topic has slithered away, no offense intended to snakes or snake-o-philes.