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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:11 AM
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bush to meet w/ experts to figure out Iraq today
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 08:58 AM by Botany
Some items that they might want to discuss:

Blasts kill 62 in Shiite area of Baghdad

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Car bombs and a rocket barrage struck a predominantly Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad on Sunday, killing at least 62 people, a municipal official said. The rockets apparently were fired from a mostly Sunni district targeted by U.S. troops in a crackdown against the sectarian violence roiling the capital.

About 140 were injured in the attack on the Zafraniyah neighborhood in southern Baghdad, which began about 7:15 p.m. with two car bombs and a barrage of an estimated nine rockets, Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Saddoun Abu al-Ula said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060814/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Basra splits off from Iraq

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1904569

Police Chief in Mosul Iraq killed by some bomb

Has anybody heard about this? My son who is in Mosul told me this today. He said that there were bombs going off everyday in Mosul....Northern Iraq, where it is supposed to be so peaceful and great?!! I consider where I live to be calm and peaceful, I hear no bombs on a daily basis. For me, going to a place where I would hear bombs on a daily basis would definetly make me NOT consider that place to be "calm and peaceful".

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/152696...

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of newly recruited police officers in Fallujah failed to show up for work Sunday after insurgents disseminated pamphlets threatening officers who stayed on the job, according to police officials in the restive western Iraq city.

"We will kill all the policemen infidels," read the pamphlets, "whether or not they quit or are still in their jobs."

Fallujah Police Lt. Mohammed Alwan said that the force, which he estimated had increased to more than 2,000, has now shrunk to
only 100.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:15 AM
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1. He has had 4 years to 'figure out" Irag. When is enough, Enough!
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:15 AM
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2. The average is 100 a day......n/t
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:18 AM
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3. bush doesn't have the brains to "figure out" anything
and whatever "experts" he talks to are always sycophants and yes men that are prepicked because they share his viewpoint. Just like the crowds at his speeches. I feel for you, having a son in Mosul. May he be safe.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:18 AM
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4. Damn you know things are going to hell in a hand basket when it
is news that Chucklenuts is meeting with experts abut the war. How can this be news? Shouldn't he be meeting every day, every hour with experts on this? We have kids dying and he takes a meeting with experts? What did he have to give up - 30 minutes of bike riding instead of his usual hour? The MSM has been so busy conditioning the American people to accept such a low expectation from this bunch is requires a news release that he finds time on his vacation to meet with experts.

I can see it now, 1942 and FDR works in a few minutes with the Secretary of Defense, his generals, etc. to think about the war. Jeeze, Louise, Georgy has set the bar for incompetence so low he would have to reach up to scratch bottom.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:26 AM
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5. It is going swell huh guys, eh, eh eh
Oh, it's not- oh well, heh, heh, heh. shucks what do ya want me to do?
:sarcasm:
Sorry to hear about your son being there Botany. I hope he stays safe.

There was also the story about all the cops in Fallujah being run off.
:dem:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:49 AM
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10. My son is 12 .... and not in Iraq
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 08:57 AM by Botany
Panader0's son is in Iraq ..... up thread.

I had forgotten about all the police in Fallujah leaving. Thanx

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/15269636.htm

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of newly recruited police officers in Fallujah failed to show up for work Sunday after insurgents disseminated pamphlets threatening officers who stayed on the job, according to police officials in the restive western Iraq city.

"We will kill all the policemen infidels," read the pamphlets, "whether or not they quit or are still in their jobs."

Fallujah Police Lt. Mohammed Alwan said that the force, which he estimated had increased to more than 2,000, has now shrunk to
only 100.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:56 AM
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17. Oops
Sorry for all the troops drug into this war by this chickenhawk.
:P
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:07 AM
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18. although a casual friend's son is going back for his 2nd trick.
And since he knows that I worked for Kerry & am a liberal
he sought me out to talk.

Before he went he was talking Ann Coulter and go bush go ....
now he says that he just wants to survive, we are building perm.
bases (he is in construction), and that the country is more deadly
then anybody can really know.

All I could say was "Keep your head down."
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:27 AM
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6. Probably should have done that BEFORE he invaded nt.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:42 AM
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7. Bush's "EXPERTS" are who cooked up the invasion of start with
The "Office Of Special Plans"...

The spies who pushed for war

Snip...

How much Mr Tenet reveals of where that pressure was coming from could have lasting political fallout for Mr Bush and his re-election prospects, which only a few weeks ago seemed impregnable. As more Americans die in Iraq and the reasons for the war are revealed, his victory in 2004 no longer looks like a foregone conclusion.

The White House counter-attacked yesterday when new chief spokesman, Scott McClellan, accused critics of "politicising the war" and trying to "rewrite history". But the Democratic leadership kept up its questions over the White House role.

The president's most trusted adviser, Mr Cheney, was at the shadow network's sharp end. He made several trips to the CIA in Langley, Virginia, to demand a more "forward-leaning" interpretation of the threat posed by Saddam. When he was not there to make his influence felt, his chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was. Such hands-on involvement in the processing of intelligence data was unprecedented for a vice-president in recent times, and it put pressure on CIA officials to come up with the appropriate results.

Another frequent visitor was Newt Gingrich, the former Republican party leader who resurfaced after September 11 as a Pentagon "consultant" and a member of its unpaid defence advisory board, with influence far beyond his official title. MORE...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html

Office of Special Plans
From SourceWatch
(repurposed and renamed in July 2003 to Northern Gulf Affairs Office)

The Office of Special Plans (OSP) was created by Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld to help create a case to invade Iraq. OSP evolved from the Northern Gulf Affairs Office, which fell under the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia policy office. It was renamed and expanded to the Office of Special Plans in October 2002 to to handle prewar and postwar planning.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Office_of_Special_Plans

The new Pentagon papers

A high-ranking military officer reveals how Defense Department extremists suppressed information and twisted the truth to drive the country to war.

http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp_moveon/index.html

Pentagon Office Home to Neo-Con Network

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0807-02.htm

Bush's "EXPERTS" are liars, crooks, cold blooded killers and cheats.



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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:44 AM
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8. 4 dead Australian troops INSIDE the Green Zone
some deadender lobbed a mortor in. I heard it on BBC America this am.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:49 AM
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9. EXPERT = CRONY
They play...you pay!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:52 AM
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11. Commander AWOL will not find the answers reading "My Pet Goat"
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 08:53 AM by SpiralHawk
Remember, Mr. Connecticut Preppy Cheerleader? You tried that on 9/11, and you FAILED America miserably. As usual.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:54 AM
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12. No this time he is really trying ....
Meeting w/ Condi and others this AM then a lunch meeting w/ experts.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:54 AM
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13. LOL!!!! at your title! WHAT EXPERTS????? Was he hiding these
"experts" all this time? Ohhh boy, and this is only Monday!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 08:59 AM
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14. I wonder if he'll spend more than a half hour this time
it's all for show.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:20 AM
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15. "Half of Mosul in rebel hands"
I don't know how reliable this source is .....

http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news%5C2006-08-07%5Ckurd4.htm

The left bank of Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city in terms of population, has fallen to rebels fighting U.S. occupation troops and the Iraqi government.

“Half of Mosul has been in rebel hands for three days and there is no sign that the government has the ability to restore its authority,” a provincial official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said.

The Tigris River bisects Mosul, a city with a strategic location bordering the semi-independent Kurdish enclave in the north. Mosul is also a major oil center.

Residents said the rebels have spread their control on the left bank of the city which controls major roads leading to Turkey and the Kurdish cities of Dahouk and Arbil.

Traffic on the city’s five bridges is suspended as U.S. helicopters and warplanes roam the skies.

The city’s inhabitants, estimated at more than 2 million people, do not venture to leave their homes.



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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:24 AM
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16. Hmmmmm..the rate of plunder must have gone down.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:08 AM
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19. More death to follow.....details at 6:00...
When the War Council meets....
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