Judge "USE ESPIONAGE LAWS" Rosen and Weissman AIPAC

seemslikeadream

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Sat Aug-12-06 04:23 PM
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Judge "USE ESPIONAGE LAWS" Rosen and Weissman AIPAC

Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 04:26 PM by seemslikeadream

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060811-110246-3478r

Broad ruling clears way for spy trial
WASHINGTON, Aug. 11 (UPI) -- An Alexandria, Va., federal judge, in a ruling with potentially broad implications, has cleared the way for the trial of two pro-Israel lobbyists.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III said the U.S. government could use espionage laws to prosecute a private citizen who gained access to national defense data.

The Los Angeles Times said the decision may be the first that says citizens other than government employees can be charged for receiving and disclosing such information. Some saw a possible problem for advocates, reporters and other information gatherers.

The ruling specifically opens the way for Steven J. Rosen and Keith Weissman, former officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee,to stand trial.

They were indicted last year on charges of conspiring to obtain information about Iran and other Middle East nations from Pentagon analyst Lawrence A. Franklin. Franklin, who pleaded guilty to passing government secrets, was sentenced to more than 12 years in prison.

http://irmep.org/PDF/08092006EllisOpinion.pdf

http://irmep.org/rosweiss2.htm

The government's case against Rosen and Weissman hinges on applying the Espionage Act which states:

"whoever, lawfully or unlawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blue print, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, willfully communicates or transmits or attempts to communicate or transmit the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it. . . . shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by imprisonment for not more than two years, or both."

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acmavm

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Sat Aug-12-06 04:30 PM
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1. This is not good because look at what bunch of crooks gets to decide

what is 'relating to the national defense'.

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atreides1

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Sat Aug-12-06 05:03 PM
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3. The law is already set in stone

The crooks don't get to change it. The only thing they can do is to try and repeal it before these two gentlemen go to trial. And we all know how good Congress is at getting things done in a quick and timely manner!!!

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seemslikeadream

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Sat Aug-12-06 05:01 PM
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2. Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60497-2004Sep3.html?nav=rss_nation

Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration

By Robin Wright and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, September 4, 2004; Page A04

FBI counterintelligence investigators have in recent weeks questioned current and former U.S. officials about whether a small group of Iran specialists at the Pentagon and in Vice President Cheney's office may have been involved in passing classified information to an Iraqi politician or a U.S. lobbying group allied with Israel, according to sources familiar with or involved in the case.

In their interviews, the FBI agents have also named two Israeli diplomats stationed in Washington and asked whether they would be willing recipients of sensitive intelligence, the sources added.

The investigators have asked questions about personnel in the office of Pentagon Undersecretary for Policy Douglas J. Feith as well as members of the influential Defense Policy Board, an advisory panel for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, according to former U.S. officials who have been questioned and others familiar with the case.

Investigators have specifically asked about a group of neoconservatives involved in defense issues, including Feith, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, Iraq and Iran specialist Harold Rhode and others at the Pentagon. FBI agents also have asked current and former officials about Richard Perle of the defense board and David Wurmser, an Iran specialist and principal deputy assistant for national security affairs in Cheney's office, according to sources familiar with or involved in the case.

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seemslikeadream

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Sun Aug-13-06 10:26 PM
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4. The Franklin/AIPAC Spy Case Page

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/franklin.htm#articles<br>

Articles
2002
June 14: Caspar's Ghost: Weinberger Memoir Omits Key Involvement: Edwin Black
2004
Aug. 29: Israel Denies Spying Against U.S.: NY Times
Aug. 30: Officials Worry About Effects of Spy Accusations: The Washington Times
Aug. 30: Officials Worry About Effects of Spy Accusations: The Washington Times
Aug. 30: Allegations Against Defense Official Roil Washington, Shake Pro-Israel Lobby: Matthew E. Berger

Sept. 1: Editorial: A Spy for Israel? The Wall Street Journal
Sept. 1: CIA Reduces Exchange with Israel: Middle East Newsline
Sept. 2: AIPAC Hires Lawyers: Jerusalem Post
Sept. 3: Policy Wars and Real Wars: Jerusalem Post
Sept. 3: AIPAC Defiant Over FBI Probe of Alleged Leak: Jerusalem Post
Sept. 3: Jews Fear Fallout On Fed Spy Probe: James D. Besser
Sept. 4: Focus: 10 Ways the Pentagon Spy Case May Damage Israel: Haaretz
Sept. 5: Justice4JP Statement on Franklin Case (Preface to Safian Article)
Sept. 5: Allegations of Israeli Spying Usually Disappear -- Eventually: Alex Safian
Sept. 6: Franklin Met Israeli Intelligence Attach�: Maariv
Sept. 8: Witch Hunt?: The Washington Times
Sept. 9: Column One: One-Way Friends: Jerusalem Post
Sept. 13: A Web of Intrigue: Time Magazine
Sept. 17: New Spy Case: Taiwanese Defend Contact With Top State Official: The Washington Times
Sept. 20: The Dirty Pot and The Clean Kettle - Who is Spying on Whom?: Si Frumkin
Sept. 20: Official Heading AIPAC Probe Linked To Anti-Semitism Case: Edwin Black
Sept. 28: Growing Suspicion AIPAC Probe Driven By Improper Agenda: Maariv International

Oct. 5: Jewish Officials Predict No Long-Term Damage From 'mole' Inquiry: Matthew Berger
Oct. 6: Such a Thing As Too Much Support For Israel: Haaretz
Oct. 10: A Tale of Two Spies: Franklin and Keyser: Gale Luft
Dec. 1: FBI Searches Office of Pro-Israel Group: AP
Dec. 5: Exclusive: How the FBI set up AIPAC: Jerusalem Post
Dec. 17: U.S. Increases Intel Against Israel: MENL
Dec. 18: Democrats Query Bush Over Probe Into AIPAC: Jerusalem Post
Dec. 21: FBI Waited to Make Move Against AIPAC: Edwin Black
Dec. 23: More Details Emerge on AIPAC Chalabi Boosters Targeted in FBI Probe: Edwin Black
2005
Apr. 21: AIPAC Fires Two Senior Employees: Jerusalem Post

May 4: Criminal Charges In AIPAC Case Leveled Against Pentagon Analyst: Ron Kampeas and Matthew E. Berger
May 5: Pentagon Analyst Charged With Disclosing Military Secrets: New York Times
May 5: The Franklin Arrest: New York Sun
May 6: U.S. Aide Arrested Amid Signs That Lobby Probe Widens: The Forward (NY)
May 12: New Charges In AIPAC Case; Rosen Expects Indictment: Washington Jewish Week
May 14: F.B.I. Questions Journalists in Military Secrets Inquiry: New York Times
May 16: FBI Questions Four Reporters in AIPAC Case: Haaretz
May 20: AIPAC Will Focus on Policy at Gathering: Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles
May 22: Lobbyist in Espionage Inquiry Says That He Broke No Laws: New York Times
May 24: Shepherd University Professor Charged with Sharing Top Secret Documents with Pro-Israeli Officials: NBC
May 27: Pentagon Analyst In Israel Spy Case Is Called a 'Patriot': NY Sun
May 27: Warrant Issued in AIPAC Case: Cleveland Jewish News

June 10: Franklin Case Goes to Grand Jury: The Herald-Mail Online
June 12: Dual-Loyalty Bias Worries US Jews: Jerusalem Post
June 14: U.S. Indicts Aide for Iran Info to Israel Washington: MENL
June 16: Column One: America's irreplaceable ally: Caroline Glick
June 18: AIPAC Suspects Shared Info with Boss: Jerusalem Post
June 27: How Aide at Aipac Became a Target In U.S. Spy Case: New York Sun

July 28: FBI Seeks to Probe Senior Israeli Diplomat in Pentagon Spy Case: Haaretz
July 28: U.S. Presses Israel in Probe of Pentagon Analyst: Reuters
July 29: U.S., Israel Still At Odds Over China Arms Sale, Pentagon Spy: Christian Science Monitor

Aug. 4: Former Lobbyists Charged in Pentagon Probe: CNN
Aug. 5: Israeli Lobbyists Took Classified Data, U.S. Says: Washington Post
Aug. 12: Indictments Shed Light on Aipac 'Spying' Probe: The Forward
Aug. 17: AIPAC lobbyists, US analyst plead not guilty of disclosing classified data: Haaretz
Aug. 18: Satterfield Named in AIPAC Indictment: The Jerusalem Post
Aug. 26: Report Fuels Suspicion Over AIPAC Probe: Forward Staff and JTA

Sept. 29: Pentagon Analyst Close To Guilty Plea: Reuters
Sept. 29: Pentagon Analyst to Plead Guilty to Leak: Associated Press

Oct. 2: Israelis won't testify in AIPAC trial: The Jerusalem Post
Oct. 5: Pentagon Analyst Pleads Guilty to Passing U.S. State Secrets: Bloomberg
Oct. 5: Ex-US analyst pleads guilty in Israel-linked case: Washington Post
Oct. 6: Steinitz: Israel is not spying on the US: The Jerusalem Post
Oct. 6: Defense Analyst Guilty in Israeli Espionage Case: Washington Post
Oct. 6: Former Pentagon Man Pleads Guilty, Will Testify Against Ex-AIPAC Officials: Ron Kampeas
Oct. 6: Column One: Anti-Zionist Show Trials: Caroline Glick
Oct. 7: Plea May Affect Aipac Lobbyists' Cases: Forward Staff and JTA
Oct. 7: DOD Analyst Provided Shihab-3 Data To Israel: Middle East Newsline
Oct. 8: Israel: Franklin's Trial Won't Affect Us: The Jerusalem Post
Oct. 22: AIPAC Prosecutor Named US Deputy: The Jerusalem Post
Oct. 25: AIPAC Defense Wants Israelis' Testimony: The Jerusalem Post
Oct. 28: AIPAC Is Guilty - But Not of Spying: The Jewish Journal Of Greater Los Angeles

Nov. 7: Storm Clouds Ahead: The Jerusalem Post
Nov. 10: U.S.-Israel Defense Relations on Mend But New American Veto Policy Crimps Israeli Arms Sale: JINSA Online

Dec. 23: Indicted Officials Consider Suing Pro-Israel Lobby: The Forward (NY)
2006
Jan. 20: Former Pentagon Expert Jailed for Leaks: MSN
Jan. 20: Ex-Pentagon Analyst Sentenced to 12 Years: Associated Press
Jan. 20: Pentagon Mole Sentenced to 12 Years: The Jerusalem Post
Jan. 20: Transcript of the Franklin Sentencing (PDF file)
Jan. 22: Dod Analyst Expected To Cooperate Against Israel: Middleast Newsline
Jan. 24: Sentence in Franklin case sends chill through free-speech community: JTA News
Jan. 24: Analysis: Franklin case shows what's in store: The Jerusalem Post
Jan. 31: Our World: Trial of American Jewry: Caroline Glick

Feb. 2: Could AIPAC-related sentence chill free-speech? JTA
Feb. 2: Times reporters questioned in AIPAC case: JTA
Feb. 11: The AIPAC Case: Criminalizing Public Speech: Secrecy News
Feb. 13: Big Impact Seen In Israel Spy Case: The New York Sun
Feb. 19: Disgraced Spy Is Now Parking Guy: New York Daily News

Mar.: Has the New York Times Violated the Espionage Act? Gabriel Schoenfeld
Mar. 7: Amid AIPAC's Big Show, Straight Talk With a Noticeable Silence: The Washington Post
Mar. 5: Pro-Israel Lobbying Group Roiled by Prosecution of Two Ex-Officials: New York Times
Mar. 9: From AIPAC to Check Point: Globes Online
Mar. 28: The AIPAC Case: "Uncharted Waters": Secrecy News

Apr. 14: Trial Unnerves Some U.S. Jewish Leaders: The Wall Street Journal
Apr. 14: Leak Flap Seen Aiding Lobbyists' Case: The Forward NY
Apr. 22: Lobbyists to claim secrets came from high officials: Los Angeles Times
Apr. 23: Lawyers for ex-AIPAC officials get green light to subpoena Sec. Rice in spy case: Haaretz

May 3: Living in a city of spies: The Baltimore Sun
May 14: AIPAC case defense cites treaty: The Jerusalem Post
May 18: US discriminating against US citizens with Israeli ties: Nathan Guttman
May 24: FBI Questioned Jewish Leaders In Aipac Case: NY Sun

June 27: Defense Dept. Imposes Loyalty Test on American Jews: The Washington Times
July 19: Aipac Was Pushed on Legal Fees, Lawyers Say: NY Sun
Aug. 11: Judge OKs broader use of spy laws: Los Angeles Times
Aug. 11: Judge rules that U.S. espionage case can continue: The New York Times
Aug. 11: US judge rules against former pro-Israeli lobbyists: Reuters

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seemslikeadream

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Sun Aug-13-06 11:09 PM
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5. Spies!!

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Rainscents

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Sun Aug-13-06 11:14 PM
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6. This will open up the new can of worm.

Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 11:22 PM by Rainscents

It looks like, judge just bit off more then he can chew. I heard on the radio, defense lawyer is going to drag out everything, including one that Condi leaked. This is going to be very interesting! I have a feeling, prosecuting officer will drop this case in the middle of it, when shit hit the fan.

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