Imagine our country being invaded and the feckers who invaded us...

[NNN0LHI]

...tossed in the added insult of calling us terrorists for fighting back. That is exactly what Bush is doing to the Iraqi people right now.

Sonuvabitch!

I promise history is NOT going to be kind to us for this shit.

Don

[kenny blankenship]

1. History will be kind, IF we kill all the other countries' historians

it's written by the victors, remember...
No one will dare to say bad things about us if we are sufficiently evil. Anyway at this point, the MSM consensus is already locked into killing foreign people until they learn to love us, which comes to the same thing in practice as intimidating the world with death lest they speak ill of us. The former approach earnestly believes our PR-BS, and acts on it with lethal results, the latter approach is more cynical in the manner of the Fascists of the previous century, not requiring anyone to believe anything except that we will not hesitate to kill them if they badmouth us, but it comes to about the same thing.

[Monkeyman]

2. Yep it might be the whole world coming against us

[Raydawg1234]

3. For most Americans the US is synonyms with freedom and democracy.

They cannot contemplate that others don't think this way.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. Ummm..... the future and the present for that matter are not

going to be/is not being kind to us.... not at all.

[Mnemosyne]

5. Nice and simple explanation Don, thanks! n/t

:hi:

[enigma000]

6. If fighting back involved purposely blowing up innocent American civilian

then those activities and participants would be terrorists.

Fighting the invaders is insurgency. Blowing up a church or a hospital or a NASCAR Rally is terrorism.

[NNN0LHI]

8. Would the reverse be true then?

Is every death of an Iraqi civilian by our military terrorism? We have blown up a lot of Mosques. Is that terrorism? Are people who have assisted in killing Iraqi civilians terrorists? Was Shock And Awe a terrorist attack? Was dropping fire onto the peoples heads who were living in Fallujah terrorism?

How come you call us "the invaders" while we are blowing up their country and their people to smithereens but if they were to do the same to us you begin identifying Iraqis as terrorists? Something doesn't seem right.

Don

[enigma000]

9. I didn't explain myself clearly.........

If a foreign army invaded and occupied my country, I would feel compelled to take up arms. If I fought the invaders, I would be an insurgent.

However, what if I started to kill my own countrymen by blowing up a hospital or a mall? What if I don't like Baptists very much and blow up a Baptist church? What if, at the end of the day, I've killed no soldiers of the invading army but a whole bunch of my country's men, women and children?

Am I a freedom fighter?

[NNN0LHI]

11. No problem I understand now

The answer to your question is if someone was to begin blowing up Baptist Churchs or Synagogues, or women and children in general here in America it would certainly be terrorism as far as I was concerned.

Now who exactly was responsible for that terrorism would be up for discussion.

For instance if the occupier was using the power of its occupation forces to incite this type of behavior I would say the label of terrorist would go to the occupation forces who were doing such a thing.

For example during the battle of Fallujah it was reported that the USA brought in Kurdish snipers to kill anything that moved in that Sunni city. Stuff like that probably doesn't improve the relations between the Kurds and the Sunnis.

On the contrary it could probably make some Sunni man who may have had a loved one killed by one of these snipers want ot seek revenge on some Kurds.

The US knows this will happen ahead of time. So who is the real terrorist here when that Sunni man seeks his revenge?

Don

[enigma000]

12. I hear what you are saying

Certainly none of this would have happened if it weren't for the invasion. Still, I'm a believer in free will. No one made these people choose revenge in this manner: the killing of innocents. "It's George Bush's fault" may be factually correct, but an insufficient defense inside or outside a court of law.

Maybe this is just a case of a terrorist political leader calling others a terrorist?

[converted_democrat]

7. I agree with your explanation.. I often ask people that are "for" this war

what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot.. I ask if they would fight, or just roll over and take it.. They always say they would fight, and then I explain that under current definition they would be terrorists.. It actually makes them think..

[Imagevision]

10. Imagine the Iraqi army coming up your st. shooting your family

running over your neighbors cars with tanks with them still inside, sure the Iraqi's wished for freedom, now their about to go full vivil war or they're already there, my president won't tell me the truth because of the elections that are getting near.

[Tom Joad]

13. The Iraqis aren't the only ones being called "terrorists" for fighting

back.