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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 10:27 AM
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CT-Sen: Schlesinger, Republicans are Lieberman's Only Hopes
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/11/223433/135

As the Rasmussen poll shows, Lieberman's only hope to win in Connecticut is based not only on winning some Republican votes, but actually upon winning about 70% of Republican votes, including the majority of the far-right wing conservative base. Even with the pathetic, scandal plagued Republican in the race at a shockingly low 6%, all of Lieberman's gains are still coming from Republican voters, and his "margin" over Ned Lamont is still within the margin of error. If a non-scandal plagued, even vaguely competent Republican were on the ballot, this campaign would already be over. With a Republican at 20%, Lamont would be ahead. With a Republican at 27%, Lamont would be ahead outside the margin of error. And that would be before all of the donations switch, all of the advocacy groups abandon Lieberman, and every major Democrat in the country publicly tosses Lieberman to the curb. Were it not for Schlesinger, Lieberman's third-party, do-over campaign would already be little more than an amusing footnote in a blowout-election.

Lieberman knows that not only Republicans, but the far-right wing conservative base is his only path to victory. That is why he is now claiming that the terrorists are now somehow worse than the Holocaust or the Soviet Union. That is the sort of batshit wingnuttery that appeals to the Little Green Footballs crowd--teh same crowd he knows he has to win to pull this thing out. Soon, in the name of "bi-partisanship," we can expect him to start calling for a fifty-foot fence along our borders, and for a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran. I mean, seriously, if you think that Al-Qaeda is worse than the Third Reich or Stalin, why should we ever expect your crazy wingnuttery to restrain itself?

If Schlesinger were to drop out of the race, and a less felonious Republican placed on the ballot, Lieberman would be toast. He is probably toast anyway, but in that scenario the campaign would turn into a blowout sooner, rather than later. If he is at only 46% with a majority of Republican votes, he would truly have no chance if a credible Republican entered the race. Two weeks ago, when looking through old election returns, I noticed that in the vast majority of House districts, simply having a candidate on the ballot guarantees a major party 20-27% of the vote. A percentage like that means that you automatically win a sizable majority of your own partisan self-identifiers. Thus, if Schlesinger drops out, and another Republican takes his place, Lieberman has no shot at winning a majority of the Republican vote, and is therefore finished.

While Schlesinger says he is staying in (someone needs to check to see if he is on Lieberman's payroll) Republicans in Connecticut are working hard to replace him. They have, for example, approached Jack Orchulli, who is open to the idea. Orchulli got waxed by Dodd in 2004, winning only 32% of the vote in a two-way race. It is a mathematical impossibility to win a three way race without at least 33.4% of the vote. If Orculli could not pull that off in a two-way race, there is no chance at all he could win a three-way race. While he couldn't win, if he or any other even semi-credible Republican were ont eh ballot, Lamont would instanesouly take a commanding lead. This would allow us as Democrats to turn our attentions elsewhere, expect to bask in Lamont's warm glow and mock Lieberman ala Katherine Harris in Florida. There is not other reason to pay attention to the Florida Senate race except to mock Katherine Harris. I love to see Connecituct in the same category.


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 10:34 AM
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1. K and R!
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 10:45 AM
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2. I can not understand how
a Repunk or a Dem could vote for this freak - he clearly lost and he is clearly a sore loserman and I just don't know how anyone could support him.

This statement in his non concession speech:

"The old politics of polarization won today. For the sake of our state, my country and my party, I cannot and will not let those results stands today."

pisses me off SO MUCH - basically he said voters I don't give a shit what you say and I will not let your decision stand...

I guess there is no wonder why there is not a huge out cry by political leaders about election fraud because I guess they just don't give a shit about the voters - ALL THEY CARE ABOUT is keeping their freaking job.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:04 AM
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3. I think he fits in nice in the republical platform...HE IS A REPUG...
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 11:48 AM
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4. I must be a huge rejection
hit to find out an entire state wants you gone! And I thought it was bad getting rejected selling door to door!
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 02:46 PM
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5. It should be.... but he's not facing reality
and doesn't seem to want to accept that he is a reject.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:28 PM
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6. I agree.
Having a stronger Republican in the race is only going to hurt Lieberman, not Lamont. Especially since Lieberman is really embracing the Republican talking points and Republican endorsements as time goes on.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 05:42 PM
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7. Obviously Rove won't allow a stronger Repug.....no way
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 07:02 PM
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8. That's true, more Repugs support Joe then his own party, it's good he lost
So much GOP support for Lieberman, like he got a bad deal or something? Coulter, Hannity, that's pretty sick when they're telling us we made a mistake as Bill Clinton has said he will now support the winning candidate!
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:33 PM
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9. Tex. candidate Kinky Friedman commends Lieberma,: liberals = anti-American
On Joe Scarborough's show this week, Kinky praised Joe Lieberman for leaving the Democratic Party, and Kinky suggested liberals were anti-American:

SCARBOROUGH: Hey, Kinky, could the argument be that both parties are extreme, vote for the new independent?

FRIEDMAN: That could certainly be. I think the mood of the country is really, really independent. I mean, I think the winds of change are really blowing right now. And all the—the way I see Lieberman, he's very—he's pro-America, unashamedly, and he's pro-Israel. And these liberals are
not.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14285602/
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