Is it just me?

[tsuki]

Or does anyone else think that while this HUGH111!!11, I'm Series111!!111 terrorist plot was unfolding in the UK threatening thousands of lives, American and British, the leaders of the Free World were...well, where were they? Vacationing.

They have known about this plot for weeks, and their response was...let's party.

I wonder what the Greatest Generation would have thought if Churchill and Roosevelt had spent as much time vacationing as these two do during WWII, the big one.

And for those that haven't guessed it...:sarcasm:

[JohMunich99]

1. Not sure what you are getting at

Do you think this wasn't really a big plot? You seem to be using sarcasam to reference the event. While these guys may have not pulled off what they had planned, it was a serious threat. I don't think it's necesarry to ban all liquids now (especially since the plan was plotted in the UK), but there's no reason to pretend this wasn't a serious threat.

[tsuki]

2. No, what I am referencing is that if this was a big plot (I don't know,

but the press seems to think so) and I knew about it, what would I do?

Go on vacation?

Okay, I live in Florida. A hurricane is heading toward me. Would I board up the windows, secure all my outside things, take all my papers and make sure they are safe, or would I go on vacation?

It is not the threat, it is the response to that threat that dismays me. I have felt this way since I watched GWB look for WMDs in his office while the press corps yukked it up.

People are afraid, they are dying.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Agreed.

I think the OP is talking more about how this administration always seems to be sleeping at the wheel though.

[MissWaverly]

4. Not, just sleeping at the wheel

when deaths occur, they benefit, they get photo ops, they get more power, they get more money, catastrophe for them is a good thing, not for us, or to the unfortunate victims, it makes sense that they left Katrina deteriorate because they wanted another 9-11 type disaster/photo op

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

7. Why The Heck Are You Responding To Me As If I Forged That Argument?

I'm just responding to the premise of the OP, which was discussing how they always seem to be on vacation. No idea why you felt the need to preach a list of 'no shit' arguments that had nothing to do with the OP, and directed at me no less.

Hey, while we're at it, why don't we list a thousand other things this administration does and totally take this thread off point?

[MissWaverly]

9. I am sorry if I have offended you

I have heard the argument that they're asleep at the wheel too many times. They feed off this
crap, they exploited 9-11, they exploited Katrina and they are exploiting this terror plot
to help them politically. They do this on purpose because it benefits them.

If you feel that I am attacking you; I am not, I am trying to break through the mindset
that George Bush is the happy idiot and that these are mistakes, they are not mistakes;
to him they are opportunities.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

10. My Offense Was Of Your Implication That I Too Was Of That Mindset.

I mean, no biggie really, but even now you are responding as if I or even the OP don't see or recognize those things. The OP was quite simple in what it meant to portray, and my metaphor was quite simple as well. Neither one is stating that the administration does not act with intention but instead has their follies due to incompetence blah blah blah. You looked into a simplistic statement far too deeply and in doing so maybe unintentionally implicated me as somehow being narrow in my assessment of the administration and ignorant to the fact that they do all of the things you speak of.

I'm plenty informed miss waverly, and though you didn't mean any offense, and I believe you, please understand that when you say something like "I am trying to break the mindset etc" that you are then inferring that I was of that mindset to begin with. But that's simply farfetched and unwarranted.

Peace.

[MissWaverly]

11. thanks, Operation Mind Crime, Peace

My friends (who are Repugs) told me not to worry that Bush will "protect us" from all the evil, this was over dinner and I come home and log into DU and see "asleep at the wheel." It's scary, now they are denying that they knew about the terrorist plot when Cheney made those statements bashing Dems in Connecticut; of course, they knew.

However, I don't think others at DU fall for his blather,
I know this you see because
I read "Plaid Adder"

Miss Waverly

:-)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. Yes, They Certainly Did Know. And No, The Majority Of DU'ers Most

definitely do not fall for their blahter. :)

[elehhhhna]

6. Perhaps it was a serious threat. The Independent article today

actually makes these guys sound smarter than the average Richard Reid -type, which is chilling.

It's the TIMING, the apparent overreaction of the media and the gleeful exploitation of information (like Dick Cheney's psychic forshadowing only one day before the bust) by the Bush Administration that bothers me.

[MissWaverly]

13. yes, and I would feel better if they reacted like George Tenet

rather than turning this into a political opportunity, don't they get it, what we care about
is protecting all Americans, not that the Pugs do better at the polls, how is that going to
help, that is their number one issue always, how much are we getting from this.

[AusGail]

5. No, it is not just you

I picked up on that myself. When it was announced that both Blair and Bush were on vacation, I immediately thought - How dare they.

The pair of them have caused so much death, destruction and misery over the last 6 years, and they dare to go whooping it up on vacation at tax payers expense.

How do they live with themselves? How do they sleep at night?

Until every soldier returns to his or her respective homes and those so called leaders sort our the catastrophic mess they have created, they do not get a holiday.

Maybe I'm over sensitive, but not a day goes by that I don't spare a thought for all the innocent people caught up in these man made problems.

[rurallib]

8. Look, Bush had brush to clear and that is important, also

The secret service hauled in truckload after truckload of brush to be cleared. It cannot be left just laying around.

[MissWaverly]

14. why isn't all that brush a security risk

it can be easily burned and provide cover for illegals, who come from Iran according to some
of those extremist RWs in the House that I listened to.