I doubt Al-Qaeda was behind the attempted terrorist attack.

[Odin2005]

Most likely it was a bunch of disaffected Brits of Pakistani origin who started thier own terrorist cell. The Pukes like to tie all Islamic terrorism to AQ, which is BS and is simply propaganda designed to scare people by making people think AQ is more powerful then it really is. IMO, AQ doesn't really exist anymore as a coherent entity as a result of the invasion of Afganistan; it has become more of an idea, or an inspiration, then an organization.

[Virginia Dare]

1. check out Madhound's post on the Greatest page..

he makes some excellent points about the alleged plotters, that they don't fit the AQ profile at all.

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. You're not seeing the trend.

All these Brits and Pakistanis will be found to be

AGENTS OF IRAN!!!!!

It's showtime, folks.

[LSK]

3. i have found no talking heads mentioning Iran

All the talk is of Al Queda "types".

[Philosoraptor]

6. CNN: AL QAEDA CONNECTION? we get the drill now.

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Who's the CNN clown? boortz?

He was going on and on and on and on and on about "this is World War 3, and Iran is behind it all!". He was talking about how Iran was going to "respond" (you could hear the quotation marks) to the UN on Aug 22, Countdown to Armageddon!

The guy is seriously nuts.

Just the fact that they are saying "looks like AQ", "it's the AQ style", "similar to AQ", rather than saying that it is AQ outright, is in indication that they are looking for a way to tie it to Iran -- because you know every rational person in the country has already seen the AQ links - the Bojinka plot, the Pakistanis, etc. but they WANT to pin it on Iran.

ON EDIT -- Wrong nutcase -- it was Glenn Beck. There's something wrong with that guy.

[Philosoraptor]

4. ages 17 to twenty something

children of urbanites, hardly Osamas.

[rodeodance]

5. from Cheney's mouth--"al-quida types" (below)--War on terror is a failure

as being carried out by WH. This needs to be the message.



Thu Aug-10-06 02:06 PM
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Lieberman compares terrorists to Nazis, calls for unity

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/state/hc-101...

Lieberman compares terrorists to Nazis, calls for unity

WATERBURY, Conn. -- U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, in his first campaign appearance since launching his independent re-election campaign, likened terrorists to Nazis and called for Republicans and Democrats to work together to combat them.

"We are at war with a brutal enemy," said Lieberman during a campaign stop Thursday at a Waterbury pizza joint. "How the heck can we be in a battle in which we are fighting as Democrats and Republicans against each other when these terrorists certainly don't distinguish based on party affiliation? They want to kill any and all of us."

"I'm worried that too many people, both in politics and out, don't appreciate the seriousness of the threat to American security and the evil of the enemy that faces us - more evil or as evil as Nazism and probably more dangerous that the Soviet Communists we fought during the long Cold War," Lieberman said.


...

"If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England. It will strengthen them and they will strike again."



Thu Aug-10-06 11:03 AM
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Bush says Foiled Plane Plot "Stark Reminder" that United States

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT005761.htm

10 Aug 2006 15:54:51 GMT
Source: Reuters

BUSH SAYS FOILED PLANE PLOT "STARK REMINDER" THAT UNITED STATES "AT WAR WITH ISLAMIC FASCISTS"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

The president laid the blame for the would-be attack squarely on al-Qaida-type terrorism.

........"This nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation," he said, his remarks carried live on television.

Bush spoke for just two minutes and took no questions. His brief message, aside from focusing on the "stark reminder" of the U.S.-led global war on terror, mostly appeared to be a promise that his administration was working to keep citizens safe.

"The American people need to know we live in a dangerous world, but our government will do everything we can to protect our people from those dangers," the president said...........


Thu Aug-10-06 07:34 AM
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Chertoff: Plot 'suggestive' of al-Qaida
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_terror_plot ;_ylt=As_OkNUoQAMSE7VUf147kGqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Chertoff: Plot 'suggestive' of al-Qaida

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 6 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The terror plot disrupted in London is "suggestive of an al-Qaida plot," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday as the government issued its highest terrorism alert ever for commercial flights from Britain to the United States.


"There is currently no indication of any plotting in the United States," Chertoff said, but the government raised the threat level for all domestic and international flights.

Chertoff said officials cannot assume that the terror operation in Britain had been completely thwarted.

The U.S. government banned all liquids and gels from flights, including toothpaste, makeup, suntan lotion. Baby formula and medicines were exempted.

Chertoff said the alleged plot "was sophisticated, it had a lot of members and it was international in scope." He added, however, that "because the investigation is still underway we cannot yet form a definitive conclusion.".........


Wed Aug-09-06 10:55 PM
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Cheney suggests that Lieberman lost might encourage "Al Qaeda" types
Folks, I just can' t belive how these people make this crap up? You think there are terrorists out there making tentative plans on the basis of who wins the Connecticut democratic primary.

And any voter out there that buys that one has to be mentalty hampered that I question whether they're capable of putting their shoes on the correct feet?

Http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/10/washington/10senate.html?ex=...

[kenny blankenship]

8. The link is likely this:

Bush and Blair seized on the myth of Al-Quaeda and puffed it up into a giant hydra-headed threat with operations in dozens of countries, etc. as an existential threat to Western civilization around which they could organize their gov'ts and accumulate great power and a renewed sense of purpose behind our own doddering and decrepit political societies. And in repetitively projecting AQ against a much bigger screen than it deserved, magnifying AQ by powers of ten, they have promoted the idea that AQ is a really formidable organization that can stand up toe to toe with the militaries and secret police of the West. This has had the unintended consequence of positively promoting the image of AQ to disaffected Muslims everwhere in the world--and significantly in the west's home countries like Britain and Spain. Bombarded by the rhetoric of global war on Islam, and tantalized by the illusion of a truly powerful Islamic resistance, discontented Muslim men are 'joining Al-Quaeda'--and since there is no Al-Quaeda to join, THEY ARE CREATING THEIR OWN WHEREVER THEY LIVE. In effect, Bush and Blair have been recruiting for Al-Quaeda and there is a risk that their police state revolution may summon into physical existence the body of the mostly imaginary foe that they have used to terrorize their countries into political submission.

This more or less is the prescient thesis of The Power of Nightmares, a BBC documentary that showed before the London tube attacks--and I think before the Madrid bombing as well.

[Odin2005]

9. Exactly.