Airlines not allowing unaccompanied children

[Toots]

We just had our grandchildren come and visit for a few weeks and it was great. All four are twelve or under so must travel as unaccompanied children which cost an extra thirty dollars apiece but oh well at least they were able to come. I heard on the radio yesterday that airlines are now not allowing unaccompanied children to fly any more. I don't know if it is a permanent thing or only for the next few days but it sure is bullcrap...What is the matter with this country? This fear thing is getting completely out of hand. The odds of getting struck by lightning are far better than being attacked by terrorists but America is terrified for sure. The terrorists have won a major battle with the very great assistance of the GOP. They need to go...

[Cyrano]

1. Has someone figured out how to make a child blow up?

[Connie_Corleone]

2. Children are full of liquid. nt

[Bill McBlueState]

8. good call

We're all made of 70% water. Pretty soon only freeze-dried people will be allowed to fly.

[hopeisaplace]

26. LOL! thanks for the giggle n/t.

[lonestarnot]

33. And if they aren't their pants are.

[tanyev]

3. Good timing. How many kids are out visiting parents or grandparents

and need to get back in time for school?

[RB TexLa]

4. tough one, they already make enough noise with the parents there

but I don't see how a ticket can't be sold to them individually.

[Hubert Flottz]

5. There goes another one of your freedoms that the Terraists...

won't need to hate us for anymore!

[Wickerman]

6. Same right after 9-11

As a parent who has a kid who regrettably has to shuffle back and forth we were caught in a similar trap. What I learned after the fact is that the airlines offered the public face that kids can't travel unaccompanied "for security reason" but that if you talked to their reservations folks mine 'lines were actually, in fact, allowing travel. They jacked the costs up for a bit, but those actually came down as they realized a loss in income. Unaccompanieds are a few percentage points of an airlines bottom line - they are not going to give up that revenue stream.

[Atman]

10. I used to fly alone all the time.

My parents divorced, and I wound up in Florida with Mom and siblings, while Dad stayed in Boston. I made so many regular, unaccompanied trips on Eastern Airlines between Orlando and Boston that a couple of the stews actually knew me. Starting at about 10 years old.

But that was a loooong time ago. Never heard of Eastern Airlines? That shows you how long ago this was!

[adriennui]

7. no problem with that

children under 12 SHOULDN'T travel without adult supervision. depending on the kindness of other passengers and busy airline employees is stupid and lazy. spend the extra money and escort them yourself and disrupt your precious life for a few hours. if you can't afford to do either of those things, don't send them!!!
i had to inconvenience myself a few times so my daughter could visit the grandparents in florida. our children are our responsibility.

[WyLoochka]

9. I agree

My 9 year old nephew was escorted by his grandmother to his two week stint to a camp and escorted back by his father. This kid is very responsible, but there was no way anyone in the family could even begin to countenance dumping him off at an airport to maneuver through all the crap that is entailed in flying by himself. No way. To do so would have been cruel, as well as flat out negligent.

[adriennui]

11. i don't know how parents rationalize letting children fly alone

most are aware of the lack of service and unsavory passengers one could encounter. i myself wouldn't want to sit next to an unaccompanied child. as a mom i would feel responsible and it would add unnecessary stress to my trip.

[AnneD]

13. I had flown with my daughter many times

(her first trip was at 6). One summer I had to work and could not go with her, she was 10. She was thrilled with her adventure on SW Airlines (they are the best with unaccompanied minors). I packed her a big bag of treats (home made jerky and cookies, jello eggs, hard boiled eggs, etc). Her plane was delayed in El Paso for a few hours. While everyone was making due with peanuts, she was feasting. One of the passenger even offered to buy something from her. Of course I didn't rest until she was with her Dad. She was since traveled Internationally. The only time she was shook up was when she kept setting off the scanner in Dubai, UAE and a menacing burly security guard with a big assed machine gun got involved. I had passed through, but I immediately went back through the line. I kept insisting that I would not allow them to search her with out me being present. I told him she was 13, I was Mom and I would not let her out of my sight. I guess the way I was fussing convinced him I was serious. They let us through.
She can find her way around airport better than I ever could.

[AlienGirl]

16. I can't afford to go with them

My kids (10 and 8) take non-stop flights. I accompany them to the gate, their dad picks them up at the other gate. They are alone on the airplane, but have flight attendants assigned to them. I am neither stupid, nor lazy; just poor.

The alternative would be that they never get to see me at all; their dad has them during the school year.

Tucker

[pitohui]

21. just call the airline

as i just posted below, i think your airline is okay and will service the little ones just fine

air travel is damn safe, i don't have a prob. w. the unaccompanied minor program myself, a lot safer than putting 'em in a car w. drunken yet conveniently unemployed uncle bob to drive them wherever as too many families do to save a few $$$ :-)

[Don Claybrook]

34. Isn't it a damned shame

that you don't get to make that decision?

My son has done just fine on unaccompanied flights for years and neither the airlines nor I care a thing about your self-righteous attitude. You've clearly never been in the situation where you needed to send an unaccompanied minor on a flight, or you would not make such baseless and unwise remarks.

You may find that executive jets or Grayhound buses are more to your liking. Alternately, you may find that your frustration helps you to build character.

[never_get_over_it]

12. Stupid and lazy?

or maybe unaffordable....what is wrong with you. Tons of people have children fly alone. I had four do it myself this year and I am neither stupid or lazy. Best way to do it is direct flight someone puts them on the plane and someone is there to get them off the plane. And it is a service provided by the airline for an additional fee.

Man your post has really pissed me off. My brother's son was killed last year - and left a 7 year old daughter. She is in MO, by brother is in AL, her second cousins are in NC and I am in FL. We all met up here in FL to be together which was very important to our family - and thanks to the airlines having this program we could do it...my brother actually wept when we picked her up at the airport.

You should think before you type - we couldn't have afforded an additional trip to and from MO - and actually two trips to and from NC....

[adriennui]

18. i'm sorry about your family tragedy

but children are our most precious citizens. sorry, too many things can go wrong on a plane. a young child shouldn't fly alone..in this case it's worth the extra expense to travel with her or him.

[never_get_over_it]

27. I don't have a problem with your not wanting your child to fly alone

My niece's Mother was VERY nervous about her flying here from MO. But we made sure she was on a direct flight - the airlines do not just let you drop them off and leave. You have to do paperwork sign for them - tell them who will pick them up at the other end - when they board an airline employee takes them to their seat and makes sure they are strapped in - the person dropping them off CAN NOT leave the gate area until the flight leaves - the airline has cell phone numbers for the person dropping off and picking up - so if the flight comes back to to the originating airport for some reason the responsible adult is only a phone call away etc etc etc. Our family calls the person picking up the moment the flight leaves - and the person picking them up calls the moment they land. So we have chosen to use this service in order for our family to be able to get together.

Everybody had a fabulous time - the children got to see the space shuttle take off on the 4th of July - my brother got to spend time with his grand daughter - and by the way his son that was killed last year was his ONLY child - being able to spend time with her was VERY IMPORTANT and worth the risk of her flying alone. You know some adults won't fly because they are afraid to - but my take on this is you miss out on SO much by not flying - I went to Hawaii which was fabulous but if I wouldn't have flown I would have missed out on seeing that BEAUTIFUL place - same with flying the kids if we had been too afraid to use the program we would have missed out on spending that awesome week together.

Yes children are very precisous and I would give my life for anyone of the young ones in my family. But truthfully given the way the program works I don't see much difference with paying the airline to watch after them then I would hiring a babysitter to go out for the evening.

My problem with your post was that you said people who would let their children fly alome were stupid and lazy - that was offensive. The people who would take advantage of this program have made a different choice than you. I understand your choice and think you should understand mine.

[Karenina]

40. My children travelled internationally

at 11 & 9. I trusted our domestic airline's program, it was excellent. On their first trip they emerged helping the flight attendant with an elderly passenger. She gushed that they had insisted on helping and had been the most delightful kids she'd ever accompanied. By 16, each of them had the skills to get to MY FRONT DOOR from half a world away. (I ALWAYS picked them up, they were just proud of themselves that they didn't really NEED me to do so). My JOB ONE as a mom is to foster their independence in this world. Travelling was just a chapter in the book.

[kiahzero]

30. Um... what?

The plane's thousands of feet above the ground. If a guardian is there to get the kid on the plane, and a guardian is there to get the kid off the plane, where's he going to go? Do you have any logical reason for your position, or are you just spewing irrational crap?

[elocs]

19. You're right, people should think a moment before they post.

This is an imperfect world and sometimes money and time and circumstances for people to make choices that would not be their first choice. I am sure nobody here would knowing send their children into a dangerous situation, but you do the best you can. Life is dangerous and terrible things can happen even when your kid goes to the mall.

My own daughter does not fly when she comes to stay with me, but she travels the 300 miles from Chicago on Amtrak. She loves it and it really has helped her to mature and become more confident. One time she even took the Metra from her home to the train station in downtown Chicago to catch her train. She started when she was 13 and then when she was 14 they changed the rules that allowed her to ride as an adult. I had to sign her in and she had to wear a wristband. I also had to put down who was picking her up in Chicago and I put down her mom. There was a conductor who kept an eye on her on the train. The problem was that she had a fight with her mom on the phone just before she left and her mom, not knowing the rules had changed, figured she could just find her way home on the Metra. When she got to Chicago, mom was not there to pick her up and was off somewhere without her cell phone. Amtrak, meanwhile, would not release her to her stepfather since his name was not on the form I signed. My daughter, meanwhile, had to wait for 4 hours at the train station before her mom picked her up. She was not a happy camper since she considered herself, with good reason, to be perfectly capable of making this trip on her own. At 14 she is 5'10" and very mature and I am very confident in her ability to take care of herself in those limited circumstances. If I was to anticipate and worry about every bad thing that could happen to her at any place or time I would go nuts.

[sandnsea]

49. Sometimes jerk really is the only appropriate word

Don't feel bad, some people obviously have so many boat loads of money that it blinds them to the realities of the rest of the world. I sent my daughter to her grandparents' for the summer when she was little. It kind of defeats the purpose of summer at granny's if mommy is tagging along. I'm supposed to buy 3 round trip tickets??? What an idiot.

[ComerPerro]

61. Some people can't see past their own situation

[earth mom]

24. I agree with you.

Most parents wouldn't let their kids ride alone on a bus cross town so why let their guard down for air travel? Way too many things could go wrong, like long delays or cancelled flights. Not to mention the weirdos roaming around. :scared:

[never_get_over_it]

28. You're right I wouldn't let them ride a bus across town unaccompanied

Because they would actually be unaccompanied. Airlines provide a service to let unaccompanied minors fly - someone takes them to the gate - airline employee takes them to their seat and keeps an eye on them - then airline employee takes them to the person assigned to pick them up with appropriate picture ID - kids get to visit relatives they otherwise would not be able to visit

You put them on a bus across town and you may never see them again - and get arrested for child endangerment - see the difference

[earth mom]

35. Growing up, I saw my grandparents 4 times total before they died

and after we moved away from them when I was 3 years old. 3 times they flew 3000 miles to see our family and 1 time our family flew 3000 miles to see them. I can't even imagine flying by myself at that age to see them. And I can't imagine allowing my kid to fly alone either. But then again, I'm one of those parents who think kids these days don't spend enough time being raised by their parents but instead have a succession of minders-day care, baby sitters, school, after school activities-INSTEAD of the parent doing the job they took on-that of Raising their OWN child.

[never_get_over_it]

36. I'm so sorry for you

that you only saw your grandparents 4 times before they died. My Grandmother was my FAVORITE relative - I spent most of my summers with her - she did only live a short distance from us - but I did spend most of my summers at her house and a lot of weekends during school....not because my parents didn't want to raise their own children but because I wanted to be with her - I learned SO MUCH from her and miss her still and she has been gone for a LONG time.

And I'm one of those people who think extended family is VERY important -

[earth mom]

39. So are you trying to say that me or my parents didn't love or miss

my grandparents? :wtf:

Sorry, but your slant is dead wrong. :grr:

We didn't have the money to fly back and forth and neither did they. Also in the 60s and 70s flying was quite expensive, just in case you didn't know that. Please save your innuendo for someone else.

[never_get_over_it]

41. No innuendo

I genuinely meant that I was sorry that for whatever reasons you only saw your grandparents four times after you moved away....

My statement about extended families was in response to your statement

"But then again, I'm one of those parents who think kids these days don't spend enough time being raised by their parents but instead have a succession of minders-day care, baby sitters, school, after school activities-INSTEAD of the parent doing the job they took on-that of Raising their OWN child."

Seemed to me that you were saying that parents who let their children fly alone to visit extended familise was some how abdicating the job they took on of raising their own children. I think they are enhancing the child rearing by including the extended family.

It takes a village you know....

[earth mom]

42. We owe it to our children that they are safe and feel safe

at ALL times. Putting them on a plane to fly cross country along with putting blind faith in someone they've never met before who works for the airline to watch out for them is sheer foolishness!

It's just common sense to see how parents these days have put the raising of their kids on the back burner while they work or pursue their own interests. A childs safety and well being is far more important than a career, 2 incomes or selfish pursuits!

Kids need their parents. NOT their caretakers...NOT their extended family...NOT a "village".

And in case you didn't know, most kids are molested or kidnapped by friends or "extended" family members.

Maybe if mom or dad had been around more that kind of crap would never have happened in the first place!

But go ahead and justify it if it makes you feel better. :eyes:

[Karenina]

44. The insulated nuclear family

is a relatively new manifestation and has not served society well. That said, your post is so judgemental, fear-based and isolationist I can only pity you and any children you may have.

[earth mom]

48. Wow-that's a total laugh!

:rofl:

Yeah, the kids these days are so well adjusted with their latch keys, their ipods, their cell phones, their violent video games, their computers....just how is that being social? How is that not isolated? Not to mention other serious issues besides what was discussed in my other post such as sexual promiscuity, widespread underage drinking, drugs, teen suicide, unrealistic expectations of having it all with the the goal for most kids being to make lots of money and to end up famous. :eyes:

Oh yeah, the kids of today have such great values and are so well adjusted and just oh so perfect because mom and dad aren't around all that much to care for them but hey they got their extended families, their friends and their electronic gadgets. Oh yeah, their world is quite warm and fuzzy-who needs parents?! :sarcasm:


FYI-BECAUSE I'm a sahm, my kid is one of the happiest and well adjusted I know-lots of people-friends, family, teachers, acquaintances-have told me that, so it's not just me boasting. I know what I'm talking about. So how do you know that the problems most kids deal with would NOT be solved by having a parent around all day, every day? Hmm? :eyes:

My advice-Save your "judgments" for people you actually KNOW. And Save your so called "pity" for the kids that need their parents who are rarely there. :grr:

[Karenina]

56. Everything you cite

in your first paragraph is the extension of the post-Industrial Revolution re-making of societal structure. There ARE other quite successful models. Most have failed or are failing because of the encroachment of capitalism, industrialism and globalization.

I attended a seminar led by a Native Canadian who was forced indoors by the "isms" above in the early 70's. He described the life they led and the beliefs that supported them. It was interesting and informative to me as I juxtaposed my West Indian understanding of "family." There is no way I can explain these ties or their benefits to you if you have never experienced them. Suffice to say my sister, despite the "TERRA ALERTS" is now off on a cruise with an 82 year-old extended family member who has out-lived our parents and loves us all deeply, as we do her.

Having birthed only boys, I am thrilled to have "daughters." They are children who were fetuses when I first spoke to them. They emerged from their mothers' bodies recognizing my voice. I am theirs and they are mine. WE ARE FAMILY.

TGR, I seek no argument with you. I have always found your participation on this board top-notch. I also understand your defensiveness about being a Sahm as you RARELY get your props. Please understand that there ARE those of us who simply did not have that luxury. In today's world it IS a LUXURY that MANY wish they had, myself included. I was fortunate to have had it for 4 years, then the swords of outrageous fortune made it IMPOSSIBLE. I had to make choices that I hope and pray YOU NEVER HAVE TO MAKE, for your sake and that of your children.

Forgive my snarky bait. I admit I was just trying to get a rise out of you that we could converse further. :hug:

[earth mom]

57. It's all good-all is forgiven if you will please forgive me too!

:hug:

I think I was feeling a bit attacked since there were 2 of you I was debating the subject with. Probably should have walked away and let it go, so I too must apologize for the furor of my post in reply to you. You should know that I'm half Irish, which explains it a bit I think! LOL! O8)

And yes, being a sahm is and was a major sacrifice. Financially it was hell on our family but worth it. I wouldn't change a thing. However, I DO understand people having to work like you had to do or those who just want to work. Perhaps part of the problem is that our country doesn't accommodate working parents as they should with job sharing or in office day care. I know other countries do help working parents far more than this country does, which probably makes a big difference.

More than anything what I was trying to say through several posts is that I just think parents should remember that their kids need their love, attention, guidance and support always and that should come first and foremost before anything and everything. Yes, it is a sacrifice. But the trade off is so worth it!

[sandnsea]

50. So now a ticket is sometimes $200 or even less

A child shouldn't spend time with their grandparents because times were different when you were growing up??

YOU are the one who implied people don't love their kids because they pay for them to be escorted on plane trips so maybe YOU are the one who needs to think about unfair innuendo.

[never_get_over_it]

55. Thank you for your post

because I have been scratching my head wondering how my statement that I was a strong supporter of extended families got translated into I thought the poster and his/her parents didn't love or miss the grandparents.

Must be other issues with the poster that go FAR beyond unaccompanied minor program.

[Toots]

29. Air travel and bus travel are not comparable

The airlines makes you sign both when you deliver the child into their custody and when you receive the child. The child is attended to at all times by airline employees and never out of their custody. You deliver the child at the gate and are not allowed to leave the gate until the plane is actually in the air. You must provide phone numbers for the person to pick the child up from the gate and an alternative person as well. The child is never in any danger other than what any passenger is..Flying is not cheap so most can not afford to fly unnecessarily which IMO that would be.

[Deja Q]

43. I agree entirely:

Especially when many people are not kind and the risk of kidnapping and worse is fairly high.

This isn't as much about terrorism as it is child safety.

And I agree with it.

[sandnsea]

51. What part of ESCORT do people not understand

You have to pay EXTRA for the children to be ESCORTED and they are not out of the site of the ESCORT for a second. The airline employees take this responsibility very seriously and it IS part of their job when they are PAID for it.

[Book Lover]

52. As a former airline employee, I take great exception at your assumption

When it was my responsibility to accompany a minor to the plane, I took a few minutes to speak to the accompanying parent/guardian and the child and give them the "chain of custody," if you will. I never let a child out of my sight, nor were we ever out of security's sight. I only ever handed a child over to another employee or a guardian that the child verified s/he knew. It wasn't kindness; it was my job.

[AlienGirl]

14. Which airlines are affected?

My kids are supposed to fly back to their dad's house on Southwest on the 23rd.

Be interesting if they couldn't...

Tucker

[Rosemary2205]

17. LOL I can see it now.

I don't mean in your case -- but I got this visual of Mom's and Dad's all over the US calling the lawyer because the ex didn't get the kids home in time. I can just picture the nasty things that the NSA will be recording on the phone lines. :)

[cobalt1999]

15. not sure that's true.

I flew today and had two unaccompanied children on the flight. I'd check again, this time with the airline directly.

[pitohui]

20. northwest isn't allowing for sure

don't know about the others

OP. i'm glad you got your visit before the crap hit the fan

aliengirl, i suggest you call southwest, i believe ea. airline will set its own policy, i've not heard that southwest is refusing them service at this time -- there really isn't any reason to

northwest/klm partly services europe, southwest does NOT and should NOT be affected by current bullshit

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

22. Not true --

NWA still accepts unaccompanied minors as long as it is a direct flight and not the last flight of the day. Same policy as most other airlines.

[pitohui]

23. okay i had bad information

thanks! i can always rely on DU

[jerry611]

25. I didn't think most airlines allow it anyway....

I wouldn't think they would accept the liability.

I do know that you need to be at least 18 to check into a hotel. Some places don't even allow you to rent a car until you are 25.

[Bluebear]

32. Oh yes, unaccompained minors are certainly welcome

The parent documents who is picking the child up, identification is checked on the other end, it is quite routine.

[lonestarnot]

31. Children should never be unaccompanied anyway!

[Liberal In Texas]

38. WHAT? Why not?

Kids have been flying for decades without parents and with very few problems.

[undeterred]

37. Children experience "projectile" vomiting, adults do not. nt

[npincus]

45. I'd NEVER let my kid fly unnacompanied

There are plenty of pedophiles and sick people in this world- children are more naive and susceptible to manipulation and coercian. What if the child were confronted in the boarding area by a person pretending to have a message from the parent, or "looking for their lost kitten" that they were carrying onboard, or ANY kind of excuse to lure them off?

Terrorism is not the issue. Children 12 and under should NEVER fly alone.

[tyedyeto]

46. See response #24

Children are not left unattended in the boarding area.

I have sat next to unattended children on planes in the past and it was always a delight to sit next to them. They were always well-behaved, unlike other children on planes whose parents were with them.

[never_get_over_it]

47. For the love of God

and a reality check people. When someone uses the unnacompanied minor program you don't just drop the kids off at the front door of the airport and say good luck now buh bye

The best way to do this is direct flight non stop flight from point A to point B - and in fact I believe most of the airlines will only provide the program for direct flights

Someone takes the kid to the originating airline - airline employee takes them to their seat and watches over them during flight - they are escorted from the plane to the person who has been designateed to pick them up - photo ID is required

I am having such a difficult time with this topic - people who use the program have been called stupid, lazy, unwilling to raise their own children, endangering them from kidnap, to child molestation to God knows what.

Have any of you ney sayers EVER actually used this program? - AND is there ONE reported case of abuse or kidnapping? - and do you scardey cat parents ever let your children out of their bedroom? or do you keep them isolated there to ensure they never get hurt?

[Patiod]

54. Kidnapping? By who? and where would they go?

But then again, maybe airports are becoming the new pedophile hangout, because, you know, there's almost no security there....

Wow! Lots of people talking out their butts on this thread! Have any of the people who imagine small children wandering through the airport alone ever SEEN an unaccompanied minor on a plane?

I see kids flying "unaccompanied" all the time, mostly seem to be in the 10-16 range, not tiny tots. They are not exactly left to their own devices - they wear brightly colored wristbands so flight crew can keep an eye on them, they are with a parent until they are ready to board, and only released to the person that's listed on the release form - it's like school - not just anyone can "show up" and pick up the kid.

I don't know if it's policy, but I always see them in the first few rows where they are under the constant eye of the flight crew. I've seen "accompanied" children under WAY less supervision than these kids.

I should stop reading these travel related threads, because the posts from people who DON'T TRAVEL REGULARLY but still have an uninformed opinion just raise my blood pressure.

[Ms. Toad]

59. When the flight isn't a direct flight

you have to pay for two assists - one on each leg of the flight, which also covers the time between the flights. The unaccompanied minors are taken to a special secure room between flights and accompanied by airline employees to the next flight.

The tone of this thread has been hard to take. I use the paid assist to permit my daughter to visit her out of state grandparents. We sent her with a parent or grandparent the first few times. When she was familiar enough with airport protocol and design to be able to guide us through security and from one gate to the next at around age 10 or 11 we decided she was old enough to fly unaccompanied WITH a paid assist. Fortunately we have the luxury of both the financial means and the ability to take off work to to be able to afford to do this, and to travel with her several times before letting her go on her own - and we were not under court order to meet particular deadlines to transport her from one place ot another.

We have also used the paid assist program to permit my grandmother to visit her children and grandchildren and great grandchildren half a country away when she was no longer navigate the airports alone.

A lot of folks have no choice but to use this program - court ordered visitation often requires one parent to permit their children to visit the other out of state parent several times a year. Both the time off work and the cost of additional tickets for an accompanying parent make parental accompaniment not an option for many families.

[sandnsea]

53. They have a personal ESCORT

They are not alone for a second, there is NO chance of any of your doom and gloom scenarios to take place.

[ecstatic]

58. Are there any reports of children being lost this way?

My sister and I flew alone as children to visit our grandparents. Flying in to that small town in upstate NY was very expensive. Our parents couldn't accompany us because they were working serious overtime to make our lives better (hence the reason why we were going to our grandparents in the first place). Some people cannot afford an extra adult ticket, or even if they can, they can't take off work... I know most people on DU are very wealthy so its easy to judge others who are not as fortunate. :sarcasm:

[never_get_over_it]

62. Because of this thread

I did do some research via google and there were two kids in early 2001 that had what I imagaine was a scary experience - more so for the guardians I bet - one was put on the wrong plane and flown to GA instead of wherever they were going - but the kid did make it to their destination MANY HOURS later but completely unharmed in anyway - the other I think missed a flight and got on a later flight and the airline forgot to call the person picking them up. I found NOTHING of any kidnappings, child molestation or anything remotely on the order that has been claimed by some posters on this thread.

Bottom line is - some people might be uncomfortable using this program - others are not - but judging people who choose to use it as - lazy, stupid, child endangering, unwilling to raise their own children on and on and whatever is just way off base.

[ComerPerro]

60. gee, I guess now an adult will have to buy a round trip ticket to escort

[Kip Humphrey]

63. Thank you, Homeland Security: the skies are now safe from TerrorTots!