You can't even take READING material on board planes now -- wtf???

[LostinVA]

Why? OMG -- the only thing that has gotten me through waits at gates and long flights is a good book.

In between that, no food or water on the plane, and UNWRAPPED tampons I am so not flying anyplace for vacation. We were talking Mexico in October and Seattle next June. Guess Florida and someplace else will have to do... *sigh*

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. you realize this is for commercial planes only.

Private jets' passengers can still do all those things. I have friends who fly in a corporate jet a lot and they say that their luggage isn't even inspected. Sure, they go from one dinky airport to another, but still.....

[LostinVA]

6. Who the heck flies on private planes?

[WildClarySage]

19. My husband does

whenever he flies to the home office. I imagine most places with large facilities in many different states do.

[WinkyDink]

21. I don't think this is the solution for vacationers not on a business

expense account, is it?

[Caution]

28. You imagine incorrectly

Very few people fly on private planes. The VAST majority fly commercial

[calico1]

30. Oh, ok.

I will just have to remember to fly on private planes from now on.

:eyes:

[Ravenseye]

31. Yeah WTF were you thinking?

What, you can't afford to do that? Then you're a lazy slacker.

Typical Democrat...Want everything handed to you...

WAAA I want a book....WAAAA I want a bottle of water for my 6 hour flight....WAAAAA!!!!

If you can't afford to fly a private jet, I just have no pity for you.

:sarcasm:

[BooScout]

34. You do realize how stupid your statement is?

JFC

[Tesha]

51. The statement wasn't at all stupid.

> You do realize how stupid your statement is?

The statement wasn't at all stupid.

The author of .1 was pointing out, in a rather clever way,
that the people that *MAKE UP* these stupid rules will *NEVER*
be affected by them.

Only we, "the little people" will feel the effects.

The big people are travelling in their time-shared Gulfstreams,
far away from our crying babies, bored toddlers, and body odor.

Tesha

[BooScout]

53. Well dang .....

I must be asleep today. I honestly didn't get that at all. I took it as an elitist statement. Still do.

[uppityperson]

37. TSA isn't worried about privat plane owners blowing up own planes?

Not worried about private planes guests blowing up their planes? How very rude of them.

[LSK]

59. and here I have been leaving my private jet in the garage all the time

What was I thinking!!!!!

:crazy:

[lse7581011]

2. In My Opinion There's No Place Like Home!

a vacation in my own home town sounds just perfect to me right now! No, planes, waiting lines, hassles, etc. Plus I can read a good book and carry a bottle of water anyplace!

[LostinVA]

7. The Outer Banks are closeish

So, that's a possibility, too...

[ixion]

3. yeah, the book was the last bastion of privacy

at least you could retreat into the book and try to shut out the cacophony, hassle and dehumanization that is modern air travel.

Not being able to read a book pretty much makes it impossible to travel, IMO.

[ima_sinnic]

4. I am SO happy I flew home from reunion 1 day BEFORE all this

Flew from Oakland to LA to Orlando on Wednesday with a leftover 20-oz soda in my checked luggage and carrying a folder with about 120 pages of manuscript I was copy editing and a copy of Wired magazine. I also had a shoulder bag with all kinds of munchies, a digital camera, & other odds & ends that wouldn't fit in my suitcases. Editing manuscripts has been a great way to pass the time on the few long flights I've taken in the past couple of years--the movies that were offered sucked majorly (Mission Impossible III on the way out, Beyond the Hedge on the way back) and the in-flight magazines are nothing but disguised advertising for overpriced tourist traps. It used to be that they would have a huge selection of magazines and newspapers on a plane but I haven't seen that for years. I will NOT be flying again until they loosen these ridiculous, useless restrictions.

[wakeme2008]

5. You can take reading material onboard

http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/2006/press_release_08102006.shtm

[ProdigalJunkMail]

9. what if it's a Koran???

sorry...just kidding...couldn't resist

sP

[knitter4democracy]

10. You're right--TSA website doesn't say that.

I searched their lists and press releases and all, and reading material still seems to be allowed. They also haven't changed their list that says that knitting needles are okay. I wonder how long that'll last.

[LostinVA]

16. My Dad had his book confiscated yesterday as he was boarding

And, I read this on CNN this morning:

"Kingsley Veal, 35, a geologist from England, said his Continental flight from London's Heathrow Airport to San Francisco, California, was "long and boring" because he couldn't bring any books or music on board. But he said he thought the no-carry-on policy should always be in effect."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/11/terror.passengers.ap/index.html

[knitter4democracy]

22. Maybe it's the UK's version of the TSA?

Maybe it's the airlines, as they can make things more stringent than the TSA?

That's so bad. Why are books banned? Surely they could look through them or something.

[LostinVA]

44. That's what I was wondering -- it was US Air

[Marie26]

61. Whew.

So this policy is only for the UK, then?

[dipsydoodle]

8. I'd concluded

that were was a suspected problem with paper being used as an absorbent for the alleged chemicals. There was no other earthly reason I could figure for books, mags and newspapers being banned. Same may have applied to tampons and the like but they knew they couldn't ban those.

[Cassandra]

12. If they take my tampons...

there will be blood on the seats, I tell you! Couldn't resist.

[LostinVA]

17. Tampons have to be unwrapped... ick.

[dipsydoodle]

20. Wonder what would happen

if you checked in with small type ones in each nostril and one in each ear ? :rofl: Think they'd get the message about the absurdity of the situation ?

[LostinVA]

43. bwwwahhh!

That would be funny! Or, wearing them as a necklace and earrings.

[dipsydoodle]

49. Even better !

Could even become a fashion statement.

For volume you could also carry them in the bullet slots of one of those gunbelts you see slung across the chests of Mexicans in cowboy films.:rofl:

[LostinVA]

52. That would be soooo funny!

[knitter4democracy]

56. What about this? A net-friend of mine made it:

I still think it's cool. ;)

[MountainLaurel]

35. Isn't that asking for Toxic Shock Syndrome?

Heaven only knows what sort of pathogens a tampon could easily pick up without a protective wrapping.

[LostinVA]

41. Tell me about it....

[uppityperson]

38. wear them as earrings, or braid into a necklace

[Midlodemocrat]

62. Which is not only not hygienic, but potentially dangerous.

Remember Toxic Shock Syndrome? No thanks.

[Demit]

11. I can't find any story about banning reading material on planes.

Someone on DU yesterday referred to this, but I watched my local news in which they laboriously went through everything that you now can't take, dramatically holding up bottles of hair conditioner & so forth. They made no mention of reading material. I just googled and found nothing. Do you have a link to point me to?

[Cassandra]

13. Someone in one of the articles about travelers...

said her book was confiscated. Maybe in the WashPo.

[bigscott]

15. this is not banned material

only liquids, gels and the like - i called American Airlines yesterday - the severest restricitions (basically everything except tickets and cash) were on the london to US flights - domestic are nowhere near that bad - you can even still bring on electronics

[lse7581011]

14. Not Sure I'm Doing This Right-but here's a reference to that

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4110146.html

about half way down:

Kingsley Veal, 35, a geologist from England, said his Continental flight from London's Heathrow airport to San Francisco was "long and boring" because he couldn't bring any books or music on board, but he thought the no-carry-on policy should always be in effect.

[LostinVA]

18. Two sources:

In this article:

"Kingsley Veal, 35, a geologist from England, said his Continental flight from London's Heathrow Airport to San Francisco, California, was "long and boring" because he couldn't bring any books or music on board. But he said he thought the no-carry-on policy should always be in effect."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/11/terror.passengers.ap/index.html

And, my Dad had his book confiscated yesterday at Charlotte airport.

[larryepke]

36. Obviously...

he was reading the WRONG book. If he's been reading "The Faith of George Bush" he'd probably have been allowed on the plane without having to go through security. :D

Actually, this sounds like the kind of thing that the TSA inspectniks can't figure out, so some do one thing and some another. Off hand, I'd bet that they get little or no guidance on this matter.

[LostinVA]

39. That's what I was wondering... (re: guidance)

At least he wasn't reading "The Anarchist's Cookbook."

[GardeningGal]

63. Was he traveling internationally?

From what I understood, domestic flights only the liquids, gels, etc. were banned but on international flights, no carry on of any type was allowed.

[WinkyDink]

23. And yet, CARGO---as in, the Pan Am 103 BOMB---still goes UNCHECKED.

This is ALL ridiculous to the EXTREME---ESPECIALLY with female sanitary supplies.

And what about medicines? A diabetic might need to "shoot up" before eating (as my late friend had to).

[Ravenseye]

33. Yeah excellent point

They have no problem making women check their tampons, or mothers drink their own stored breast milk, but to actually screen the cargo???

Pff...

[life_long_dem]

24. Has there been any big donations to the Repug's from Skymall Magazine?

I will not fly again if that is the only reading material allowed.

[TAPat]

26. Oh, ack! Skymall Rag!

:rofl:

Maybe every seatback will have a King James Bible in it for our reading pleasure... :P

[life_long_dem]

29. That's very funny. This could be the airlines new slogan:

" Get a headstart on the Rapture, fly with us. You'll already be in the clouds when Jesus comes."

[TAPat]

25. They don't want anyone to leave the country -

I've been saying this for a while now. They don't want us to go anywhere where we might see or hear *differing* view points.
Okay, so you're not buying into the fear thing? Well how about the inconvenience thing?
Feckers :grr:

Oh, and exploding tampons - that's great! They even come with their own fuses!

[madame defarge]

27. It's becoming more & more like life under Hitler...

My mother lived in an occupied country during Hitler's rise to power; she used to tell me how the Germans had the "right" to enter anyone's home & take anything they wanted whenever they wanted. I was thinking about this last night as I tried to get to sleep. And then I had visions of those concentration camp photos where everyone's stuff was piled up, like piles of suitcases, piles of jewelry, piles of clothing...

How long before we get to that point?

[Ravenseye]

32. Jet Blue

Fly on an airline that at least gives you direct TV while you fly...that way you'll at least have something to do instead of sit there and count the fibers on the back of the chair in front of you.

[Divernan]

40. "My Pet Goat" still allowed reading on private jets.

nt

[BooScout]

42. It's not going to last.....

If it does they would have to shut down all the retail shops in all the airports. I don't think the liquid ban will last either. They make too much money from booze and cigarettes in the shops.

Also, think about the box cutters.........so they banned them after 9/11........but they never banned you going to the duty free shop and buying a big GLASS bottle of booze that could be broken and held to someone's throat on board a plane. Surely they thought of that at the time, but they never banned booze did they?

[Clark2008]

45. Why?

Do you have a link?

I mean - how can a book be used for anything other than reading or toilet paper?

I "get" the iPods and cell phones and car-door openers because they can, theorhetically, be used as an electronic pulse to activate a bomb - but a BOOK?

Can't the stupid screeners flip through and/or X-ray the damn thing to make sure it's not hollowed out and holding a weapon?

This seems silly.

I hope Americans are waking up to exactly how much the Republicans are using FEAR to take their rights away.

:crazy:

[Show_Me _The_Truth]

46. This is an initial reaction

All initial reactions are overkill and illogical to an event like this.

Once things calm down, the system will balance out again. There will definitely more restrictions, but they will not be as drastic as this.

Just like shutting down the entire Air Traffic system on 9/11. A initial draconian reaction that was lifted after the situation was understood and adapted.

What else would you suggest as an initial reaction to a fast moving situation such as this? They had to keep people moving through the system but need to provide for their safety in the air. How else should they have reacted?

[warrens]

47. You know that standing room only plan Airbus is looking at?

That may be the future of flying. Like getting on a Tokyo suburban commuter train and standing packed in, staring at the wall, for hours.

I was bitching about electronics yesterday, but said, well, at least I can bring a good book. Is it possible the Bushies all went short on airline stocks? They'll be rolling in dough if they did. I have to travel a lot on business, but I will definitely do what I can to dodge travel until some sanity returns.

[symbolman]

48. I've been telling people for about three years now

to MOVE where you Want to LIVE for potentially the rest of your life NOW.

It's why we moved to Hawaii, the outer regions of the New Bush Imperial Empire..

I'm also going to learn how to navigate and sail a boat while I'm here, identify fish that are edible, learn how to fish here and in the pacific.. Stars never seemed so important before, they were just pretty, now you never know, the stars could save your life..

This is where America Used to Be.

[LynneSin]

50. Sis - I think that was a Heathrow condition, not USA

Heathrow clamped down to nothing more than your wallet in light of what happened yesterday. I heard on the news that electronics and books are allowed. Just have to pack anything liquid like

[librarycard]

54. Talk about being "terminally" inconvenienced~!

:D

[helderheid]

55. It's bullshit. My husband (who avoids politics like the plague) commented

this morning about how this is pure BS. Why now are they banning these things after a supposed foiled plot and why didn't they ban it when they supposedly knew about the plot days ago? Now, my husband happens to be brilliant (intelligence is the greatest aphrodisiac) so I cannot say if that will be the average person's reaction but I can say he isn't involved in politics at all so perhaps people are waking up.

[Bluebear]

57. You must sit & reflect on our Great Leader's majesty during the flight.

[gauguin57]

58. My eyes! My eyes!

PLEASE don't post a photo like that before noon, Eastern Time.

My breakfast is still settling. Well, not anymore.

Does that face look REMOTELY presidential?

[MrCoffee]

64. Poor Chimpy, so many suits to shit in, so little time.

[Marie26]

60. Really?

Have they said how long this will last, or is it permanent? I can't imagine flying anywhere w/o a book. I'll go stir-crazy.