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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 05:36 AM
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PLEASE HELP re: this video from LGF
Mom sent this around:

http://www.aish.com/movies/PhotoFraud.asp

Her comments:


What do you think of this? It's undeniable that there has been incredible destruction in Lebanon, but this short movie exposes that some of the people in photos in national media are actually "actors" who are staging some of the photos (one lady in the same clothes being posed in front of two buildings on two different dates bemoaning the loss of different homes), etc. Thought it was of interest.


I wrote back saying that yes, the media sensationalizes war... but I want to add an addendum explaining about LGF...

Any thoughts on the images/evidence presented? Have there been any blog posts "on our side" looking at these photos?

Thank you SO MUCH in advance
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 05:45 AM
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1. The dead babies are still dead babies
The bombed out homes are still bombed out homes. Not even the cretins at LGF are saying those things have been faked. The photographers can be accused of embellishing the truth (not good, journalistically speaking) but they're not making up this humanitarian disaster out of whole cloth. To dismiss these pictures outright because of a few props is inhuman.

Ask her if her baby had been killed, and her home pulverized, wouldn't see be more likely to use a little spin to get her plight across? That's all that's been done here....
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 06:10 AM
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4. Yes - the video makes a poor attempt
to trivialise reality. Worst the photographers can be accused of is artistic licence.
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HongKonger Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 05:53 AM
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2. Fuck LGF
Edited on Fri Aug-11-06 06:02 AM by HongKonger
They are racist pigs.

http://lgfwatch.blogspot.com/

Period.


Catalyst- "Hate site comes out on top in Jewish Blog Awards"
FireDogLake- "What Lies Beneath"
The Great Society- "The "Responsible" Debate and Political Discourse of Little Green Footballs
Crooked Timber- LGF: Like Flypaper to Sociopaths
Adactio- "Little Green Hate"
Anil Dash- "Little Green Monsters"
The LGF Quiz- "Little Green Footballs or Late German Fascists" A comparison of speech and comments found on Little Green Footballs.
LGFWatch- "Keeping an eye on those rabid racists at Little Green Footballs"
Unclaimed Territory- "The 10 Worst Americans"
Peking Duck- "Charles Johnson does Auschwitz -- and gets it all wrong"
Tripias- "Fact Based Hate Speech"
The S.N.A.F.U. Principle- "Propaganda Nation"

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 05:55 AM
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3. That video came up for discussion on my union BBS, several hours earlier.
Here's my responses to the dialog:

Bill, I really don't know what this has to do with Bush and his corporate-friendly appointments. But I'm also on the email list of that Jerusalem Post, and get periodic bulletins from them. You may recall my posting the following on this BBS last year: http://www.aish.com/a/startingover.asp

But I must have overlooked the one you cited. Frankly, I find it ambiguous and ultimately unconvincing. Are they trying to imply that this Lebanon invasion is some sort of a "clean" surgical strike, with almost NO "collateral damage"? Here are a few other photographs that would be hard to photoshop:
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=17034
and
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=17034
There are plenty more.

And that "Little Green Footballs" weblog cited there, is a loooong way from being an unbiased and "reliable" source. Here's one write-up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Green_Footballs

The irony of all this is that up to about 20~30 years ago, the vast majority of such ultra far-right whackos were virulently anti-Semitic! Now fancy that!
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I was just following that same story at Media Matters: http://mediamatters.org/items/200608080001 The "issue" of photo-doctoring is relatively trivial, compared to al those others that depict UNMISTAKABLE death and destruction, and on a large and indiscriminate scale.

So I'll give that idiot Bush a break for a while, and follow up on your hijacking of this thread. ************************************************************************************************
I had carelessly repeated the webpage a few clicks above. Here's what I had intended for the second link: http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20060809&fname=dahrjamail&sid=1
Needless to say, there are plenty more such horrible photos --- on each side. Here's what was in the Jerusalem Post I got an hour ago: http://www.yad-ezra.org/

But it's not all mindless warmongering in Israel, despite all thosed PNAC Chicken-hawks squirting lighter fluid on the bonfire. "Israeli refuseniks oppose war on Lebanon": http://ww4report.com/node/2226

By an eerie coincidence, I'd been watching the DVD of "PRISONER of HONOR" when this discussion began: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001LJCTI/ref=sr_11_1/104-6108213-4299929?ie=UTF8 The movie was very close to historical fact. Colonel Picquart, a flawed man and an anti-Semite to boot, was a prisoner of his own honor. His struggle for honor, truth, and justice against almost insurmountable odds, almost destroyed him. But in doing so, he fought for the ultimate honor of his country, as well as the rest of the human race. Now, more than ever, this world needs such prisoners of honor.
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It doesn't quite satisfactorarily "explain" contract photographers "cutting corners, but it helps put it in the proper perspective.

pnorman
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 07:48 AM
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5. Ask how many "working people" DIDN'T get the notice to leave their
three-piece Italian $3000 suits at home and wear "jeans" and "working class clothes" for many of Bush's photo(sh)ops ...

Oh, and send the pic that photoshopped all those soldiers for Bush ...
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