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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 01:57 PM Original message |
Who should we fear the most, Islamic Fascists or Neo Con Fascists? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Islamic fascists" is a nonsense term |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Dream on ... in NYC, we're still looking at a hole in the ground n/t |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. it's not fascism |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Look it up, it fits the definition |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. who are the corporate enablers of the fundamentalist muslims |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. I suggest you |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. There is nothing preventing an Islamic state from becoming a fascist state |
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jpkenny (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. The latter, of course, because they now control our government. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. You won't find them there either -- they don't exist. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. Saudis maybe? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. it's not fascism. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. What's your definition |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Note the lack of reply to that. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Umm, I see several replies to that |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Insurgents aren't a system of government with a dictator. |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Eternal Fascism by Umberto Eco |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. islamic terrorist organizations do not fit the definition |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. A bullshit, RW term that degrade all Muslims |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Anybody and any state can embrace a fascist ideology. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. People of the Muslim faith are not exempt from having a fascist government |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. The blogger quotes Islamic scholars who are infinitely more |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. And what is another term for hakimiya |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. If you don't like the term Islamic Fascism use the tern Clerical Fascism. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 05:39 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Rather than using new buzz words that are both meaningless and demeaning |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. I have heard ultra right-wing Orthodox Jews argue almost exactly... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. This is an excellent point: "Islam is not itself a fascist ideology" |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Agreed Islam is not itself a fascist ideology however the point |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I believe Hitler started out as a "Christian" and had the support of... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'm not sure I understand your post. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Then I would have to disagree... |
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Hoping4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I am not in any way saying that any religion is inherently fascistic. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. In a nutshell I would have to say that.... |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. Wait! You just described the US of A! |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. They didn't just call us the Great Satan all those years for nothing! |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. He didn't want infidels on holy soil |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. What about the assassination of Rabin? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. Reagan/Bush |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fear neither, but... |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. It is instructive to note . . |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Use YOUR brain--WHO are the REAL Terrorists?! |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Why may I ask... |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I realize my post might be too subtle . . |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Americans are going to die of terrorism BECAUSE of Bush. |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Call it what it is |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. it all sounds so HITLERIAN |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Thank you! nt |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Fear neither |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. Islamic radicals are the worst |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. As opposed to the NeoconRadicals |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. In a real sense our American neo-fascists |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. Good point, all right-wing fascism is joined at the hip..... |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
31. The Neocons of course |
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WiseButAngrySara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. Who created the terrorists? The U.S. and Israel. End of story. n/t |
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Spinoza (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. I guess that depends |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
38. Amusing...a fascist calling someone else a fascist |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Every sin we accuse THEM of we are guilty of too, tenfold. |
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meldroc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. The neo-cons by a wide margin. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
54. Neocons want to take over the world. I've never heard of an Islamic |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
55. How about facist republicons? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
59. all fascists of every kind... |
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