Wow. I think we just scared the crap out of the Republican party!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

I heard Dean saying this morning that there were like 18K new Registered Dems for the Conn. primary. I can't help but think that many of those were Repugs switch hitting to assure Holy Joe won the election. Even with that, the voice was clear.

WE WON'T SUPPORT A PRO-WAR, BIG BUSINESS asshole.

After seeing this, the spinning wheels started whirring and we are starting to hear ourselves called traitors, terrorists, Al Quaida supporters... The list goes on.

It tells this Liberal one thing.

They are scared shitless!

HOO-HAH!

:toast;

[whistle]

1. Indirectly the voters in CT sent a clear message: NO MORE BUSHIT

[princehal]

2. Switchers

I think a lot of puggies switched to dem just for the Primary. To help Holy Joe.

[Hugin]

10. Interesting theory...

Scary, but, interesting.

[elehhhhna]

12. yeah. just like all the new voter sin 04 reg'd for bush. BALONEY.

[lyonn]

14. Also heard that many Independents changed to Dems

so they could vote in this primary for Ned!!

[eridani]

42. Probably not true, though

Another recent post points out that Republicans were required to switch four months ago, when Lieberman was well ahead by 20 points. Only unaffiliated and/or new voters could become registered Dems.

[wakeme2008]

3. Add to that the price of gas...

Every time ppl fill up they are reminded of the Grand OIL Party :evilgrin:

[datadiva]

4. Oh yeah, they're scared

I was listening to call in last night on CSPAN and the one I found the most interesting was a republican trouncing Lieberman and Bush. I think the sheep are waking up.

[TRRepublican]

18. I think some more Dems will be scared by this...

particularly Hillary. Anyone who has not been with the anti-war group could be hurt. In this case, Kerry and others might give her trouble in some primaries (especially NH). Then the Dems could have an anti-war candidate running again and having to try to get votes in all those red states (or they might move Hillary so far left that she has problems in the general election). I'm sure the Republicans are actually enjoying last light on this contest.

[Lerkfish]

25. LOL! your justifications backed up into your rationalizations and you

ended up with your body twisted in a pretzel.

welcome to DU!

[girl gone mad]

31. Whatever.

Being anti-war does not make one a far leftist. War opposition is a majority position among Dems and Independents. You must have been living on Mars for the past year.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

47. Could you try that again, please?

For the life of me I can't make heads or tails of what point you were trying to make.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[newyawker99]

48. Hi TRRepublican!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[RebelOne]

5. Oh no, Sean Insannity is saying this is a good thing.

He said on his radio show today that this only proves that the Democrats are the cut-and-run party and it will only bring them down in the Nov. elections.

[LA lady]

6. Is this true?

I just heard on CNN that less than 10% of registered voters in Conn actually voted for Ned. That is frightening when you consider the implications for the fall.

Anyone up there hear differently?

[JHB]

15. Even if true, so what?

Republican couldn't vote (unless they'd planned ahead and registerd Dem just for this), neither could independents. About 50% voter turnout among Dems, and then a bit more than half of that, and yeah, it's be down around 10%.

By way of comparison, in "the biggest landslide in US history" (at least in presidential races), in 1984, only 31% of the elligible voters actually voted for Reagan: the rest went for Mondale or didn't vote at all.

Don't sweat the "10%". That's a stat people pull out when they are weakly trying to belittle someone else's big victory. It doesn't mean a damn thing.

[TRRepublican]

16. You should actually sweat the 10% because....

where is Lamont going to get any more votes. His supporters were already highly motivated to vote and he only beat Lieberman by 4% (about 10,000 votes). The general election will have 3-4 times the number of votes, and Lamont will need 40-45% to win (I don't think the Repub will even get 20%). Lieberman is known to do well among independents and some Republicans; how well will Lamont do? Sure, Lieberman will lose some votes to Dems who don't want to vote for an independent, but remember that the NorthEast part of the country tends to vote more for independents than any other section of the country (especially next door in New York and in New Hampshire). I don't see Lamont drawing well against Lieberman in the Republican and independent ranks. The polls among all voters in the 3-way race show Lieberman likely to get 50% or more overall. This will probably shift somewhat by election day, but I expect Lieberman to win by at least 10%.

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[Lerkfish]

27. a bit transparent, aren't they? I think they assume everyone is as

gullible as they are.

[Clark2008]

33. I heard Sean InSannity say that very thing today.

Which, of course, automatically means it's bullshit.

[mcscajun]

17. Turnout in CT was close to 50% according to one source.

Primaries usually only draw 15-25% of registered voters, so this was an extraordinary turnout. The only "ten" I heard in connection with the Lamont victory was his 10,000 vote lead over LIEberman.

So I don't think we have much to worry about for the Fall.

[bigwillq]

28. Officially, I believe it was 43% (nt)

[penndragon69]

7. Poor JoeJoe....

I hope that his defeat sends a clear message to all the other LiberCrats in washington.....Bush's B.S. does not wash off your noses! Burn Joe, BURN!!!!

[lonestarnot]

8. I hope they piss in their boots!

[JuniperLea]

9. Watch your step

What with all the extra GOP crap laying around...

[jerry611]

11. Considering the vote totals, many of the new registered were Joe voters

44% of the voting population in Vermont are designated as independants. Democrats make up 33% and Republicans make up 22%.

A small number of independants changed to Democrat so that they could vote in this primary. Most probably voted for Lieberman.

[lyonn]

13. Mehlman, Repub. Chairman (?) on Chris Matthews' show

was stammering, repeating the old speech by Osama that the U.S. abandoned Beruit, etc. and showed how weak they were. Mehlman wouldn't even tell the Conn. repubs to send their dollars to the repub. candidate. He is using all the campaign blather they have used since 9-11 and it is falling flat. Cut and Run will only work on those that are not listening, those that are repub to the core and hate those worthless commie, socialist Democrats (sarcasm). Even many dummies might get the picure by this Nov. and help turn things around.

Who would have guessed how big a Lamont win was going to be? I haven't been this excited, inspired and hopeful in years.

[Swamp Rat]

20. Yeah, they are so scared shitless that they have decided to rip up the

U.S. Constitution right in front of our eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1864524&mesg_id=1864524

[Donald Ian Rankin]

21. No, I think we just delighted them.

Lamont will make a better senator than Lieberman would, but we should not let that blind us to the fact that selecting him is political capital for the Republicans.

The assumption that if the Republicans are attacking someone or something it must be because they're scared of it is a silly one - after all, do you never attack Republicans you aren't scared of?

They're not scared shitless, they're gloating. Hopefully, they're wrong to do so.

[KaptBunnyPants]

32. They always gloat -it's strategy

It allows them to play all-knowing-father to their idiot supporters. No matter what Democrats do, republicans will always say that it fits perfectly in to their strategy. That's why they attacked the Party as being too anti-war to win when we were going to vote for Dean, and attacked us as too pro-war to win when we picked Kerry. Of course, it only works if people are dumb enough to listen to them.

[AZBlue]

22. This is the seriously wrong way to go into fall '06, let alone prepare '08

The Republicans have never met a situation they couldn't spin to their advantage. They are already posturing this as proof that Dems are peace-loving hippies and under our control there will be no self-defense of this country. Get cocky now and you'll secure another Republican win. They aren't scared of anything and posts like this just give them fodder.

And, don't forget, we didn't oust a Republican candidate, just one Democrat for another. Oh no, don't respond Lieberman is a Republican in Dems clothing - he had a D after his name and at the end of the day, what matters is how many have that D and how many have that R.

[stepnw1f]

23. It Tell Them That We are UNITED!

And their base of stupid shallow Bush lemmings, are too weak for the upcoming battles.

[Raydawg1234]

24. No....For former republicans to have voted in the election,

they would have had to register as a Democrat 3 months ago. I doubt that anybody has that kind of foresight.

[msmcghee]

26. Before you congratulate yourself too much . .

. . you might consider that they will use this against us in a very obvious way. They will say that this proves that the Democratic party is being taken over by blame-America firsters who could not possibly be trusted to defend America against Islamo-fascists who are out to kill us.

I disagree of course, but our support of Hizbollah and our emotional condemnation of Israel for trying to neutralize them plays right in to that "frame" - especially for any voters who were borderline Republicans in 2004 who think they might have made a mistake.

We have a chance here to show America that we can protect this country - by sensibly supporting Israel - who was attacked by Hizbollah. We can show them that when Bush is on the right side - even for the wrong reasons - we will support that decision. Because we are the sensible grownups when it comes to foreign policy.

However, because the RW supports Israel we'll gladly sell Israel out for a chance to show how much we hate Bush and the neo-cons.

It guess it must feel good to have such a clear picture of right and wrong.

Added on edit: Read #22 above by AZblue. It's right on.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

30. I respect your (and AZBlue's) opinions, but, for the moment, I'd like

to believe that the reaction by Snow and other Rovian mouthpieces indicate fear.

If an incumbent DEM in a DEM state who was a VP nominee only a few years ago can get dumped...

It means the tide is SERIOUSLY turning. IMHO.

Peace.

[lisainmilo]

29. I heard one lady reply...

I was partially listening to the news this morning and I miss the reporters question, however I heard the woman reply, " Let them do the fighting over there...I am with Lieberman and Bush". Clearly she knew there were one in the same.


Stop the madness...Vote Democrat!

:dem:

[Cleita]

34. I think the reason they are scared is that this is a harbinger of

the election to come. They are starting to feel vulnerable, that there is going to be a backlash in November in a big way. These Repukes don't give a shit about Joe Lieberman. They are just scared of what is coming.

[question everything]

35. Or... to create havoc, to embarrass the Democrats (nt)

[rosesaylavee]

36. How about this...

the new Dem voters are former Republicans who are THAT unhappy with their party and what *co have done to this country that they switched political stripes. I think they are patriots and should be warmly welcomed to our big tent. This election wasn't just about Joe, or Iraq - it was about how many of us don't like B**sh and his minions having so much power.

The worms are turning, folks. If we can keep this momentum going, we will have a very successful election this fall. In my less than humble opinion!

[Boomer]

37. That's been my thought, too!

I keep hearing about all these Republicans who switched to Dem, and the unquestioned assumption is that they voted for Lieberman.

I don't buy it. I think many moderate Republicans might find Lamont more appealing than the Republican candidate or Lieberman, who echoes the party line on too many issues.

[rosesaylavee]

43. And, if they, like us, are so frustrated

with not being heard, this was a positive action to take. If I were a moderate Republican right now, that would have been my action.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

38. KA-Ching! n/t

[postulater]

39. I've never understood the logic

of forcing voters to register for a party. I should be able to walk into a voting booth mark a ballot and walk out without anyone knowing what party I voted for. And I should also be able to vote for candidates of different parties. I vote for a person who will represent me, and that does not always follow party line.

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

40. For what reason would you want to vote in another party's primary?

I get into this argument with my brother all of the time. You can, indeed, vote for anyone of any party in a general election and rightly so. However, in a party primary when the party is choosing who to run in a general election, if people outside the party could vote, why would they vote for the best candidate, if in the general they wanted someone from their party to win? Well, they wouldn't, they'd vote for the weakest.

[postulater]

45. Many times in a local race

parties seem less relevant than the character of the candidate. As an example, we have an election for sheriff coming up. A man came up to me at an event last week, handed me a business card and asked me to vote for him then walked away. My initial response was "Why should I vote for this guy, he gave me no reason other than his card." And in fact I was put off by his demeanor. Since I have a good impression of the incumbent I dismissed the guy with the card, only to find out later that he's a democrat. I won't vote for him just cuz he's a democrat.

[UpInArms]

41. Gandhi said it best

“First, they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

[sendero]

44. Not only that..

... but the kind of rhetoric they are using isn't going to fly with "moderates".

I love all this talk, because Americans know sour grapes when they hear it. They are just driving more nails into their own coffin.

[krkaufman]

46. This *real* people-powered politics *does* scare the crap ...

... out of the Republicans, the DLC and all those who thrive on manipulating the public.