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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:31 PM
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Lieberman on News Hour: I'm running against the establishment.
Interesting... in response to a question from Gwen Ifill about his colleagues throwing their support to Ned Lamont, the 18-year United States Senator said, "I understand the party orthodoxy, I understand that they have to abide by the rules. But now, I'm running against the establishment."

I just find that to be staggering. Joe Lieberman now considers himself an outside-the-beltway anti-establishment reformer and political neophyte?

:shrug:

More disturbingly, he's clearly on the Tony Snow page, saying that if we withdraw from Iraq, it will fall to al-Qaeda, and then they'll have a base in Iraq from which to attack us.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

(did Saddamm Hussein ever attack us from that base?)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:32 PM
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1. Twilight Zone Time for Joey! nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:33 PM
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2. He's an outsider. The little guy. David. The Underdog.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:35 PM
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3. Well, he is *now*
The "establishment" dropped his sorry ass overnight.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:35 PM
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4. He's running against himself?
Joe...seek professional help.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:36 PM
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5. How quickly we go from the fringe to the establishment.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:37 PM
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6. After saying the Establishment was, like, uncool, man
Joe rolled a big ol' splif and let his freak flag fly!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:38 PM
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7. what a joke
his rhetoric just gets more bizarre. yeah joe, you're an outsider. An outsider who is six years removed from a vice presidency campaign and who has spent the last 18 years in the senate (which has always been a haven for outsiders :eyes:).
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:43 PM
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12. Indeed
The United States Senate, that clubby-little haven for 100 well-heeled "outsiders."

It's a little maddening, isn't it?
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:01 PM
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36. Just let him keep talking.
He'll hang himself.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:39 PM
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8. Bwhahahahahahaha
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Pardon me while I attempt to stop laughing.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:40 PM
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9. He's starting to remind me of Matthew Harrison Brady,
especially his melt down at the end of "Inherit the Wind" and that isn't a compliment.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:52 PM
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27. "Do you ever think about things you DO think about?"
;-)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:16 PM
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28. "No! Every man is a free agent!"
:rofl:

Henry Drummond: Is that the way of things? God tells Brady what is good; to be against Brady is to be against God!
Matthew Harrison Brady: No! Every man is a free agent!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:48 PM
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32. "Then why is Bert Cates in JAIL???"
That movie's one of my alltime faves. :D
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:52 AM
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37. or as Joe says now, "why is Lamont on the ballot?"
Edited on Thu Aug-10-06 10:52 AM by Mabus
I love that movie. I finally got my SO to watch it last year. He loved it. Now whenever it is on the Turner channel he makes popcorn and turns it on.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:41 PM
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10. So is he saying that the People didn't want him but his buddies
in the Senate did? Joe you Establishment Cokehead. Stop trying so hard, we all know you lost and so do you. This is just gonna drive you insane, IMO.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:42 PM
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11. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!! Oh, please... please... Wholly-Owned Joe....?
...Buttboy to the Banking and Finance Industry? "Running against the establishment???"

Damn, stop it!!!!! Laughing so hard is gonna strain my bladder control!

Now, now, be charitable, Bright... maybe it was a slip. Maybe he meant to say "Running FOR the establishment," and his tongue being so numb from giving rimjobs to owners of stock exchange seats and international banking czars just couldn't quite get the word out right...

exhaustedly,
Bright
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:44 PM
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13. Yo Joe, you ARE the establishment!
:D
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:45 PM
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14. He IS the Establishment! n/t
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:46 PM
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15. He is the most callow, fascistic opportunist since Zell
They can both lick Chimpy's flaccid member for all I care.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:48 PM
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18. Hey, stop rummaging through their appointment books.
Yeah, it's a cheap shot; those are the funnest kind.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:49 PM
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19. LOL Zell Zell...what a er, something.
I think Joe has taken Zell's act far into the final frontier!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:51 PM
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24. Don't think they haven't
:puke:

:hi:
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:46 PM
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Usually when you lose an election, it's time to do some soul-searching.
But I guess if you've already sold it, you don't have that luxury.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:46 PM
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16. He's running because he knows he'll get a lot of the Repug vote -
he's completely self-serving and only used the Democratic party as long as it benefitted him. If he knew the rule was to gracefully step out if he lost the primary, and he didn't intend to follow the rule, why didn't he run as an independent to begin with? Because he's only serving his own self-interest. And, he believes the Republican candidate would be better than Ned Lamont, if he himself cannot win.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:47 PM
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17. More like Bush everyday....
:rofl:

Sounds like Rove IS on board with his campaign...
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:49 PM
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20. OMG... He really needs help!!!
Someone please, put this man away!!!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:50 PM
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21. Saddam did attack us (but only while Reagan was in charge)
Back then, it was just dandy if he wanted to hit one of our ships with an Excocet missile.
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:56 PM
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34. in all fairness to Saddam...
...the USS Stark was attacked when Hussein discovered that Reagan was double-dealing him when news of the Iran/Contra scandel broke: all those arms/supplies/military intelligence Ronny was swapping w/Iran in exchange for hostages...it was Saddam's way of saying "thank you for all the dead Iraqi soldiers and failed offensives your (Reagan's) duplicity cost us". I know it is not PC to say anything in defense of Hussein, but there is a context to this story, however inconvenient to US it may be.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:51 PM
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22. Is that the definition of antidisestablishmentarianism?
hey it's the biggest word I know!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:51 PM
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23. Here's another interesting thing, IMHO
Faux News reported earlier that this is essentially a race between Lieberman and Lamont, because the Republican candidate (can't recall his name) is not a strong opponent and that even the RNC has told him not to expect much support.

What? Is the RNC backing Lieberman?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:52 PM
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25. That's funny.
I just got an image of Joe Lieberman as a hippie, with long hair, a tie dyed T-shirt and a sign that says, DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:52 PM
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26. The DLC and lobbyists ARE the establishment,
and he stillhas their support.
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:28 PM
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29. Psst--Joe, over here. You need to read this.
es·tab·lish·ment

Pronunciation Key (-stblsh-mnt)
n.

The act of establishing.
The condition or fact of being established.
Something established, as:
An arranged order or system, especially a legal code.
A permanent civil, political, or military organization.
An established church.
A place of residence or business with its possessions and staff.
A public or private institution, such as a hospital or school.

often 'Establishment'

An established social order, as:
A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society. Often used with 'the.'
A controlling group in a given field of activity. Often used with 'the.'


Buy a clue--geez.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:31 PM
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30. Joe made my skin crawl.. Ned rocks and gave me goosebumps!
the choice is clear.. empty sanctimonious rhetoric of a whiney bush/corporate enabler, or enlightened progressive articulate vision putting Americans first and our country back on track.. NED all the way!!
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:38 PM
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31. Yet more proof..
... Lieberman is a typical Republican. He IS the establisment.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:53 PM
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33. Joe's about as anti-establishment as Lawrence Welk.
Without the wild accordian.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:59 PM
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35. Miller/Lieberman 2008
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