Media spins the Lamont win as "angry" people about to oust incumbents?

[gully]

:eyes:

Lieberman loss offers signs of angry electorate

Angry electorate? How bout an "informed Democratic electorate" taking a stand against Republicans and their supporters?

The spin continues here:

"America wants change and it's not just the war. Every incumbent in America in both parties ought to be quaking in their boots right now," Democratic consultant Dane Strother said.

Take a hike Strother, you're working for the Republican Party with bullshit statements like that.

More bs below:

Darrell West, a political analyst at Brown University in Rhode Island, noted opinion polls showed a majority of Americans unhappy with the country's direction and pessimistic about the future.

"Anytime you have a majority of people who think the country is headed in the wrong direction, it's a bad time to be an incumbent," he said. "Iraq was part of the voter discontent,bdiscontent, butut it's not the whole story."

'SOBERING MOMENT'

This is NOT a bad time for incumbents, it's a bad time for the people running the country - REPUBLICANS and those who kiss their ass. This is not a "sobering moment," it's a HOPEFUL moment, and we've only just begun!

[MessiahRp]

1. Maybe it is a sobering moment

for all those people that have been drunk on the Bush spiked Kool Aid all these years.

Rp

[gully]

3. They've just had an "intervention!"

;)

[danalytical]

6. That's nothing did you see this article from TIME

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1224692,00.html

"Why the Republicans Are Loving the Lieberman Loss
At a time when the GOP should be back on its heels, Connecticut voters' rejection of a centrist Senator gives the party a potentially powerful new weapon to use against the Democrats this fall"

Unbelieveable, they are out in force today.

[gully]

14. That's right. Paint Dems as "angry pessimistic cut and runners"

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[napi21]

2. Actually, the media has it pretty close this time.

I think it IS a lot of angry voters who are pi**ed at the incumbants, and might very well oust them in Nov!

[gully]

10. I disagree, we're about to oust Bush and his cronies.

Lieberman made the mistake of supporting Bush.

[napi21]

17. You don't think some of the Pub incumbants are worried about

being kicked out? I didn't mean voters were ONLY angry against Dems, or that it was only Dem voters!

I'm talking about all voters! I keep hearing the number of people against this war keeps going up, Shrub's numbers keep falling, and Congress's approval ratings are even worse.

[gully]

21. Let's assume the article read as follows: "Democrats optimistic after

Lamont win."

"Democrats are confident that Lieberman's loss signals a discontent with Bush's policies and those who support him. Liberals see this win as a signal that the tide is turning against the war and Americans are about to head in the right direction."

Big difference in "angry, pessimist cut and runners" are about to oust all incumbents. Lieberman was no longer supporting Democratic ideals. We kicked him out because of that. It's not simply about "incumbents" of all stripes losing. I just fear that this is the Republican spin and some may start to buy it. It's not going to be about holding Republicans accountable. It's going to be about "incumbents" in spite of the fact that we had no power.

[Totallybushed]

4. Damn right.

We're angry.

WE've got reason to be for the last 6 years.

[MichiganVote]

5. I'm mad as hell, so what?

[gully]

16. I don't want to be painted with a broad 'angry pessimist' brush is all

I'm saying. This is strategy and Republican talking points coming out in the press. Remember, you heard it here first.

[Skidmore]

27. How about being an angry citizen? Would that work for you?

[gully]

32. Today I'm a hopeful optimistic citizen.

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[Skidmore]

35. Hopeful and optimistic are good, but a little anger is needed now

to grease the skids. We need action now.

[gully]

41. I agree that anger can be a catalyst for needed change. But, I'm trying

to point out how they are going to spin this election and 2006 in general. I think most people are missing the point. I musn't have made it very well?

[MichiganVote]

37. That's ok for you, but I WANT people to know I'm angry and I want

people to know I am a pessimist when it comes to Washington doing anything pragmatic. I don't care about the value judgements that the moralists make about anger because I too can choose what I think or feel.

So for some of us, go ahead,call us angry---the more the better. Can't say they were never told and I refuse to play the part of the 'happy little citizen' for the sake of a cheap Walmart on the corner of mainstreet USA.

Yes, I am a citizen, a voter and I'm pissed blind at the economic carnage this administration has levied on the middle class. I'm pissed that we are policing an entire freakin' country in another whole segment of the planet because the assholes in the administration didn't even consider retaining and Iraqi police force, let alone an army. And I want the same goddamn tax breaks that the wealthy recieve. I want protection from corporations that are wildly robbing our treasury or throughly taking advantage of our pension system.

Call me an angry, angry, pessimist anytime....now here's my "talking point" about the republicans---get off your dead, lazy, good for nothing asses, and do something FOR the country and its citizens instead of INSPITE of the country and its citizens. Because from where I sit, the freakin' party is over.

America? Get angry and stay angry until these economic extremist's wake up!

[gully]

42. Well I'm glad you like that label, because you're going to hear much

more of it.

I understand what your point though, and I hope you understand my point as well.

[MichiganVote]

55. If I really believed everything I've ever been labeled, I'd be insane

[DinahMoeHum]

7. Well, hell, they haven't seen angry yet. If Joe insists on running,

the Democratic electorate may well go ballistic. No, better yet, VOLCANIC.

:kick:

[gully]

23. Well, I'll give you that LOL

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[The Magistrate]

8. Angry Is Good, Sir

Angry with incumbents is even better; they have more of them than we do.

Elections are generally won by the angriest side.

Anger is infectuous, and gathers recruits to the banner.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Fridays Child]

9. First, they smear "angry" candidates. Now, they smear "angry" voters?

It sure bugs the media that anger can be very productive.

[gully]

36. EXACTLY, someone gets it!

:toast:
I don't care if they call me "angry" and optimistic, because that's what I am. I don't care if they say this election signals discontent with Bush and his "enablers." People need to learn to read between the lines perhaps?

Guess what Lamont will become. The candidate of "angry pessimists" who himself is an "angry pessimist."

[Teaser]

11. I'm angry alright

angry because I am informed. I suspect you are too.

[gully]

13. Sure I'm angry, but I'm not a pessimist. I also don't think that voting

is an act of anger, it's an act of hope. I think we should be cautious not to allow them to paint Republicans as hopeful and optimistic and us as "angry pessimists" agree?

[Teaser]

31. anger is a gift

:)

[gully]

33. How bout pessimism, is that a gift to?

Many of you are missing the point. But, if you all want to embrace the "i'm an angry liberal" meme, feel free.

[jackstraw45]

12. Damn right I'm angry!

And I have a damn good reason for it too.

This anger is WELL justified based on the crimes and evil acts of this administration (and willing congress).

[gully]

19. Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the future?

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[paparush]

15. The Establishment is well on its way to "Howard Deaning" Lamont...

[gully]

25. I hope not.

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[Demit]

18. I don't see anything wrong with Strother's statement.

Americans DO want change and it ISN'T just the war. Any incumbent who has been guilty of abetting, rubberstamping, colluding with or capitulating to this awful administration and its destructive policies both foreign and domestic SHOULD prepare themselves for the voters' wrath. There's a long history in this country of voting the bums out. If an incumbent isn't guilty, it's up to THEM to prove it to the electorate. It's time for a little substance in campaigns, anyway.

[Kolesar]

20. Yeah, I'm with you. There could and should be big moves this year

[gully]

24. Big moves in the direction of REAL Democrats taking back our country.

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[gully]

22. I can't think of any Democrat who supported Bush like Lieberman did.

Beyond Zell Miller that is. Strothers is SUPPOSED to stategize for a WIN, not say "well this must mean everyone is in danger." Did this idiot strategist ever hear of "strategy."

[Demit]

40. I think a great strategy would be for the Dems to clearly differentiate

their policies from the policies of this administration. This should be a clarion wakeup call for them. The voters of Connecticut are showing them the way--hopefully they'll be brave enough now to jump out in front of the parade and be leaders. Any Dem ready to talk straight talk to the voters will find, after the unrelenting bullshit of the last 6 years, voters hungry to hear it.

[gully]

43. Indeed. And our newly united position on Iraq is a step forward.

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[Skidmore]

26. That's not spin, that's the truth for a change.

We've got a few Dems besides Lieberman who need a smack on the forehead to get their attention. This is their wake-up call.

[gully]

28. It's spin. "Angry pessimstic liberals."

Get ready, your going to hear more.

[walldude]

38. So you are saying that you are happy and optimistic

that the Bush administration will fix everything? I am an angry pessimistic liberal. From what I read on DU I think most people are like me..

the only spin here is that being an angry pessimist is a bad thing.. considering we are on the verge of WWIII I think angry liberals are what the world needs right now..

[gully]

45. Sorry, no. I'm saying this election gives me hope and optimism

that Bush and his cronies are about exit.

I won't embrace Karl Rove's label of who I am.

Paul Wellstone was an eternal optimist. Sure, he got angry from time to time, but he knew in the end rational people would win.

[walldude]

34. Agreed, the only spin I see there is that Lieberman is a "Moderate"

That's spin and a half. I agree fully that Americans, not just Dems, are angry, and if they're not then they just aren't paying attention. Incumbents should be scared shitless and so should all the shills that work for them. These next two years are going to be Americas defining moment, we are either going to tip the scales back to honesty, truth, and justice or we will become a fascist dictatorship. The voters are showing what they want, and it's pissing off the fascist dictators.. Hooray for our side.

[gully]

46. Glad your buying it hook line and sinker. The spin used to be

"Republicans should worry this fall" now it's "incumbents" which means we could see change and not take back the house or senate. WOO HOO!

[walldude]

52. Buying what hook line and sinker? Maybe you can't wrap

your brain around this but Lieberman lost because people are PISSED OFF! Yes I get hope and optimism from the election results but the results are born of a populace that has had enough. If YOU haven't had enough that's not my fucking problem, if you aren't angry, that's not my fucking problem either but don't sit there pretending to be holier than thou because I admit I am angry and pessimistic. Judging from the responses in your thread it's you who are in the minority here...

[gully]

56. Lieberman lost because people are PISSED OFF at REPUBLICANS

and those Lieberman became one. He did not lose because he was an INCUMBENT. Speaking of the posts in this thread, read response #9 and 54 for example.

[Protagoras]

29. I admit I'm angry...however

Lieberman being an incumbent had nothing to do with it....and everything to do with him walking and talking like a Shrub loving neocon for the last 6 years.

[gully]

51. THANK YOU!

Another person "gets it." :hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

30. I am spitting mad...and I don't care who knows it.

:hi:

[MichiganVote]

39. Thank You. And I feel the same way.

[gully]

48. See post #9

This is not about whether or not we have a right to be angry. Also, I suggest reading the article if you haven't.

[ScreamingMeemie]

63. I have...and I have no problem with how it's being spun.

I am angry and will continue to be angry until insider politics is a thing of the past.

Since we're suggesting things. I suggest standing up for who we are and what we're trying to do as humans. :hi:

and, on edit: It should be a very sobering moment in this country, as well as hopeful. There is room for both. And the powers that be should be sober in contemplating what they have wrought upon their fellow Americans.

[gully]

64. I've been sobered for several years. This election is ALL positive

as far as I'm concerned.

Also, I don't take issue with this "I suggest standing up for who we are and what we're trying to do as humans."

I do as well, and I want to win the majority while we do it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

65. It is positive for us...Hooray!!! and It better be damned sobering

for those elected representatives who consistently plug their ears while their constituents scream.

[warrens]

44. I think angry just about sums it up

You'd have to be INSANE not to be angry at this pack of bumbling nazis.

[gully]

59. Agreed. It's good to be angry at those who deserve it. BUT,

this race is not indicitive of an ousting of incumbents unless the public is foolish enough to "bahhhh" along.

Here is how Moveon painted this election:

"Dear MoveOn member,

It's a big day. Last night, people-powered politics proved the pundits wrong. Riding a wave of voter revolt against Iraq and the Bush administration, Ned Lamont beat Joe Lieberman.

It's been a long six years. But things are beginning to change. Our nation is waking up from the long nightmare of the Bush presidency.

So today, take a moment to celebrate. And then, let's roll up our sleeves and do nationally what we did together last night in Connecticut.

As the Associated Press says, "To triumph in November, Democrats will need the same intensity, including the support of bloggers and groups such as MoveOn.org, that powered Lamont to victory in Connecticut."1 We start building that victory today."

Note the difference in tone?

[NoPasaran]

47. I thank them for spreading the word

The country is full of angry voters and I applaud the media telling them over and over that incumbants can be beaten!

[gully]

49. Just a couple months ago the media was saying "Republicans"

are about to be beaten. It's now become "incumbents" which means we don't pick up seats, we simply change the names of the players.

It's exhausting that people don't seem to get that.

[depakid]

50. "Democratic consultant/"

How about we reframe that- over paid professional loser.

The sooner candidates dump these folks- especially the ones who urge "caution" and keep candidates from speaking out and calling a spade a spade.

[gully]

53. Agreed.

It's like hiring Rove to speak for us.

[Nay]

54. It's a bad time to be a REPUB -- and I include Joementum as a

repub. Incumbent Dems who don't treat their own party like dirt have nothing to fear.

[gully]

57. RIGHT ON!

Apparently my point is not lost on all.

Thanks.

[B Calm]

58. Now they blab if we pull out of Iraq, NY will be attacked again.

Sounds like the neo-cons are threatening NY...

[gully]

60. Wow, so we have to stay forever in order to be "safe?"

:eyes:

I'm so glad they are on the way out!

[Cha]

61. I thought anger was when the dick cheney

told Senator Pat Leahy to "Go Fuck Yourself!" on the Senate Floor?

We need to do something about the lyin', catapultin' propoganda corporate media!

[gully]

62. Ha.

Yep.