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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:49 PM
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Bush has Gotten Us into Serious Stuff / Overseas Newspapers/WWIII
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 02:54 PM by KoKo01
Following up on DU'er "Overseas Visitor's" post and a link provided by "Big Tree" on the thread I found two articles that would seem to verify "OV's" "hair on fire" warning about the Arab Union and OIC's standing together at the United Nations against the Proposal by Bush and France.

You need to read this...It's not what our American Media is telling us and it is disturbing: Here's link to the OP by Overseas visitor for background
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Muslim countries must be armed to match Israel's war machine
By
Wed, 9 Aug 2006, 11:06:00

The Prime Minister of Lebanon has rightly termed the acts of Israel as state terrorism. The problem with the Bush administration is that it supports Israel's state terrorism against Muslims but the Muslims are condemned as terrorists when they fight state terrorism of Israel to protect their territories and lives.

All sensible people agree that foreign occupations spawn militants to resist such occupations. In modern days there is no imperialism so blatant than Israeli imperialism. Even the USA is thinking how soon to leave Iraq and Afghanistan. But Israel backed by US might and money has made it a normal business to occupy and keep the territories of neighbouring Muslim countries.

The Muslim countries of the Middle East must wake up to the reality of Israeli imperialism and prepare themselves militarily. No resistance group, however powerful and well-organised, can face a state bent on taking advantage of lack of military preparedness and occupying another country's territory to show off its superior military power.

The Muslim countries must arm themselves for their own survival as long as the US goes on arming Israel against them.

much more at this link and worth the read for another view...

http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_29833....

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News

Wednesday, August 09, 2006

OIC should consider arms for Hezbollah: Malaysian minister

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar said on Tuesday that the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) nations should consider supplying arms to Hezbollah amid anger and frustration over Israels offensive in Lebanon. Malaysia currently chairs the 57-nation OIC, and Syed Hamid said Israel could not be allowed to act with impunity, although it seemingly had carte blanche in its operations. Some are suggesting that we supply arms. Okay, we should look at all these things, Syed Hamid was quoted as saying by the state Bernama news agency. The governments (of OIC) countries should look and we must not allow Israel to do what it wants, he said, but added that Muslim countries had to act according to international norms and principles. Malaysia last week hosted a meeting of the OIC, which demanded an immediate ceasefire in the Middle East and warned that boiling anger over the Israeli offensive could launch a new wave of terrorism. Syed Hamid also criticised a United Nations draft resolution on ending the conflict, which has been rejected by Lebanon because it does not call for the immediate withdrawal of Israeli forces from its territory. I think we must not look at Israel only. We must also look at what Lebanon wants. I think it is unfair, imbalanced and unjust to just look at what Israel wants, he said. The world should not be dictated just purely by Israeli desire but it must be incorporating justice and fairness in the international system, he said. afp

Courtesy http://www.dailytimes.com.pk

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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:07 PM
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1. Unintended consequences
And unimagined as well for those drones in the Bush White House.

I can't remember ever seeing stupidity and evil mixed together so well...
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:12 PM
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2. Do you think it's unintended?
Sometimes I have doubts.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:15 PM
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4. This is very much what they want
Iraq, Afghanistan and now Lebanon have led to destabilization of the area and civil war. This helps them empty the treasury and revoke our civil rights under the guise of fighting terror. Nobody is that stupid. This is going according to their plans.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:18 PM
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5. Good point.
They look for excuses to disrespect the constitution.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:35 PM
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8. Oh, it probably is unintended.
This little corporate empire thing is too expensive to fight grand wars against people who are actually equipped and trained like a modern military. Hence the fight against feudal states like Afghanistan and preweakened states like Iraq. The only problem is that these foreigners keep trying to build alliances and create an effective defense of their resources.

Bush is not as religious as he makes himself out to be. He always scoffed at the religious people when he was down here in Texas, although they are fairly ridiculous around here. He tells them what they want to hear, and governs any way he pleases. The nutcases don't care; they may not even be capable of caring.

The con-men who run the republican party aren't trying to bring on Armageddon, they are just trying to bilk the planet out of an enormous fortune. They just can't help screwing it up so badly, blame God.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:41 PM
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10. Another good point. Money
is their #1 goal.

About the fundies: a lot of them seem to be really excited about End Times. Even if Armageddon is happening unintentionally, the fundies seem to be liking it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:31 PM
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15. There whole life is based on the Orgasm of Armageddon...but they think
somehow "THEY" will be spared the suffering that the rest of us have to go through because they are "Purer!" :shrug: How other human beings can treat theirfellow beings like this is BEYOND my understanding.

But......those Fundies just LOVE AGRI-BUSINESS because it made the SOUTH GROW! Ugh!
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Blackthorn Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:14 AM
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23. WRONG, and dangerously misguided.
POWER is what they want. They get off on it, its their aphrodisiac. Money is only a means to obtain power.

I mean, what's the point of destroying the world just to become crazily rich? When western economies collapse then being stinking rich will determine if you survive or not, but its not the be all end all.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:24 AM
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20. Not unintended at all.
"Nothing in politics happens by accident, if it happens you can bet it was planned that way" I certainly believe that when it come to this never elected bunch of evil doers.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 11:51 PM
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21. What is the ultimate goal?
Lining of pockets to an obscene $$$ amount as possible. But when? Is there a deadline?
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:13 PM
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3. Bush and his Israeli allies are insanely deluded. Both
imagined that their respective attacks would be short-lived and manageable. Both utterly wrong. Both are sowing the whirlwind.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:21 PM
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7. He thought it would be a cakewalk like his Dad had
only he would take time to make sure that all the booty was loaded onto to the corporate
plunder pirate ships. He would have a puppet government in Baghdad, corporate plunder,
grateful lobbyists and be a war hero to boot. It did not work out that way, he's is still
looking for the right war to make him King of the Prom.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:21 PM
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6. Coining his phrase "Axis of Evil" was equally serious...
and we should have seen way back then what his intentions were (and noted that members of both parties have been complicit in this sort of labeling).

Without any voices for peace able to be heard above all of this drumming for war, we should all be very afraid.
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jpkenny Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:38 PM
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9. The neocon agenda has griped our nations domestic and foreign policies
with their embedded operatives deeply entrenched in our Congress on both sides. If people don't stop and realize how this agenda negatively impacts every aspect of our nation--socially, economically, politically, and religiously we will be consumed by it. That agenda is dangerous for both the US and Israel and portends a future of constant conflict, racism, and hate. I plead with people of good intentions on all sides to work against that which works against true American ideal interests and values. Joe Lieberman and his slime ball tactics is just a hint at what this nation is facing. The Republicans have bought into the agenda, hook, line, and sinker as have many evangelicals. Most of these people cannot see or think beyond what Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, and Ann Coulter tell them to think. You have only to look and listen to ALL of the cable and network news outlets to understand that those outside the neocon cabal have no voice that can be heard by the people. It's up to the grass-root love America first movement to get the message out. This is serious folks and we all will rue the day that we allow this to happen because we fear to speak up and speak out.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:49 PM
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12. Great post jpkenny...dead on about the entrenchment.
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 03:50 PM by BeHereNow
WE, the people, have no voice in our government.
Save for a few brave souls upholding their constitutional oaths
amidst an ocean of corporate owned criminals posing as our
representatives, we have been eliminated as participants
in our democracy. (Except for paying taxes which we have
no say in the spending of...)

The only light I see on the horizon is the flicker
of understanding in the eyes of the people who
bought the administation's song and dance all the way
back to the Reagan years. They are starting see their
way of life disappear and they don't like it.

They don't know exactly what's wrong, but they
are sensing on a visceral level that something
is indeed, very wrong.

BHN
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:31 PM
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13. Kick for this post!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:45 PM
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11. I thought OV's sense of panic was justified
Discouraging that our media doesn't even care to discuss the very real dangers we are facing.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:43 PM
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14. K&R
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:32 PM
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16. Believe Me! the whole Arab World Uniting against Bush Policies and Us
is not something to be passed off lightly and to go to archives without a FIGHT!
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:13 AM
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18. Arab Press Roundup: Week 5 of Lebanese war
Not without a fight!

http://wpherald.com/articles/774/1/Arab-Press-Roundup-W...
By United Press International
Support for Lebanon's 7-point plan

AMMAN -- Lebanon's al-Anwar commented Thursday that Israel's war on Lebanon entered its fifth week with more complications for Lebanon as the war expands and the diplomatic battle contracts. The daily said Israel has decided to expand its ground operations and continues to destroy Lebanon from the air and sea, while the consultations in the U.N. Security Council are facing obstacles with little hope the Arabs can manage to amend a French-American draft resolution.

<snip>

The United Arab Emirates' al-Khaleej said in its editorial there have been no indications from Arab countries of an alternative if their diplomatic efforts fail in amending a U.S.-French draft resolution. The pro-government daily complained there were no signs the United States, Israel and Britain would listen to the rest of the international community, let alone the Arabs, to stop the "triple aggression" on Lebanon. It said America is stalling and prolonging the aggression until "its Israeli arm achieves its mission in killing Lebanon's state, land, people and resistance," adding that the war was first extended to days and then weeks, and now there is talk about another month or more.

"What are they waiting for? To double the statistics of death, injuries, destruction and the displaced, and to let the Lebanese people surrender to the Zionist terrorism and American chaos?" it asked. The paper said it was time for the Arab voice to be heard and to have an effect in the world, especially against the "war criminals in the Zionist entity who are committing the massacres of the century."

<snip>

Oman's al-Watan remarked that U.S. smart bombs continue to strike Lebanon while the Security Council continues discussions to allow a last chance for "killing the spirit of steadfastness and resistance." The pro-government daily thanked the Arabs who met in Beirut and dispatched a delegation to speak at the United Nations, saying no one seems to be in a hurry to stop the Israeli onslaught on Lebanon, while President George W. Bush is spending his vacation in his Texas ranch "with his cows" and British Prime Minister Tony Blair is spending a three-week holiday in the Bahamas.

It accused the Israeli U.N. ambassador of lying like his government, saying he has no shame to use the international forum to lie and asked "if these people will provide peace and security for the Lebanese people." The commentary said many Israelis left their towns in northern Israel to return to their "original countries as they realized the delusions of democracy and safety promoted by the Zionist ideas in Israel." It said the Israeli deaths in northern Israel and southern Lebanon were victims of the "fascist politicians who adopt insane, racist ideas, and behind them is (Secretary of State) Condoleezza Rice."

/more...
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 10:19 AM
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19. Erdogan Calls International Community to Shoulder its responsibilities
http://www.sana.org/eng/22/2006/08/10/56578.htm
Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 05:35 PM (Ankara/Damascus)

ANKARA, (SANA) Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayip Erdogan called Thursday the international community to shoulder its responsibilities against the Israeli aggression on Lebanon, stressing that the Israeli escalation on the Palestinian people and Lebanon takes dangerous dimensions and threatenthe security in the region.

"We cant be silent and stay just watching what is happening, the international community must move to extinguish this fire before it spreads in the whole region which in turn will enflame an international fire." The Turkish Ekhlas News Agency quoted Erdogan.

He underlined that "stopping this fire is a historical and human responsibility according to the countries of the region," Pointing out that Turkey will exert the possible efforts to solve this matter.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 03:48 AM
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17. kick
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-11-06 12:01 AM
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22. Kicking for the insomniac
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