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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:47 PM
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Frankly I Don't Care If We're A Party Of Left Wing Extremists...
As long as our extremists out number theirs in Congress, I could care less what bullshit labels the media tries to give us.

The entire political culture of our country shifted farther and farther right starting with Reagan that moderates are really conservatives and liberals actually are the middle of our country. The problem is the corporate media would rather label us as extremists because there is more money on the other side of the politicam spectrum.

What was far right wing extremism is now considered mainstream by a minority who control what we see, hear and read in the news.

WE are the mainstream. Look at the polls, listen to people on the streets.

It's time to take our country back and take it LEFT because that's where it has always been regardless of the media and corporate pandering to the right.

Being progressive is a DEMOCRATIC and AMERICAN value.

Lamont's win opens the door for us to come out blazing and fight for our country back. It proves we can beat an entrenched 18 year incumbent with all the financial backers and lobbyists in his pocket that he could gather.

We can do this...

It starts now.

Rp
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:48 PM
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1. Me too!
No matter what we say or do, they'll also call us names.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:49 PM
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2. Anyone who calls us "Left Wing Extremists"
is either looking at EVERYONE from the extreme of the RIGHT...or simply has NO clue what the political spectrum actually is.

Today's LEFT WING Democrats are about as truly centrist as any political body in history.



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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:52 PM
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5. You are absolutely correct!!!
Here is where America (Democrats AND Republicans) stand on the iisues:

In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic party:

1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

http://alternet.org/wiretap/29788/

The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.



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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:52 PM
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11. You've got that right
I'm old as a tree and today's lefties are to the right of Richard Nixon on most issues.

The RW today is so extreme that they are simply off the charts. Its also a projection mechanism,.....calling someone 'extreme' and 'fringe' because that is what you are, not them.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:49 PM
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3. Conversely, I'll take a Conservative Dem over no Dem at all
if it means we'll have a majority and will get the committee chairmanships back.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:59 PM
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7. how long do we delay the fight
to actually make Democrats be Democrats though? Yes the chairmanships are very very important. But don't we also need to have honesty and integrity on our side or we just lose it all over again?

Just my opinion but I think if you don't fight from the moral high ground you are doomed to lose in the end...even if you win.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:35 PM
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19. I'm just saying that if Lamont wins in November, groovey
But if Lieberman would have won last night, I would have been alright with it too.

It's a matter of what's best vs what you'll take if you have to.

Lamont win = best
Lieberman win = not as good, but still better than a Repub
Republican win in Nov. = very bad.
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queenbdem87 Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:50 PM
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4. And besides....the republicans win as extremists....why cant we stay true
to our liberal/progressive values?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:58 PM
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6. Far left extremist definitions -
Rejecting a pre-emptive policy of invading other nations based on the fiasco of the Iraq war. That is far left extremism.
Rejecting torture as a tool for interrogation. That is far left extremism.
Rejecting invasion of privacy and unwarrented searches without going through the FISA court system. That is far left extremism.
Wanting a minimum wage increase. That is far left extremism.
Seeking accountability for those who outed a CIA agent because her husband dissented against the "evidence" that Iraq was seeking uranium. That is far left extremism.
Seeking accountability for billions of US taxpayer dollars spent on no-bid contracts. That is far left extremism.
And probably the most important - demanding that elected officials uphold the constitution of the United States, regardless of whether they agree with it or not. That is far left extremism.

Any others that I have forgotten?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:14 PM
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8. People over lobbyists! They can put any lable on it that they want.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:16 PM
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9. Yes, yes, yes! K & R'd!
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 01:18 PM by Breeze54
"The entire political culture of our country shifted farther and farther right
starting with Reagan that moderates are really conservatives and liberals
actually are the middle of our country."


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:kick: ;)
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:24 PM
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10. The American Dem party is conservative as compared to
the rest of the world....
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Symphony of Freedom Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:54 PM
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12. Left-wing extremist?!?!?!
I wouldn't even call a true progressive like Bernie Sanders or Svend Robinson that....Let alone a member of a centre-right party that occasionally pretends to be social democratic.
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Symphony of Freedom Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:54 PM
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13. Left-wing extremist?!?!?!
I wouldn't even call a true progressive like Bernie Sanders or Svend Robinson that....Let alone a member of a centre-right party that occasionally pretends to be social democratic.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:56 PM
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14. Just yesterday we were "Insurgents"!
Today, we're Extremists! My how time flies. The way it's going, we'll all be Terrorists by tomorrow.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:15 PM
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15. They've been implying it since the 2004 elections.
Like I said, I don't give a damn about the labels... As long as the heart and soul of our party (the so-called extremists) out number their christo-fasicst wackos, the country will move back to a place where war is not an absolute, there is racial, gender, sexual orientation and financial class equality and a place where other countries views are respected and heard, not just mocked.

Rp
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:24 PM
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17. I'm willing to bet
that more Democrats will side with their party and the process over egotistical Joe. Out of that 48% I wouldn't expect Lieberman to retain more than 20% of that. The Republican candidate has zero shot in hell and Joe will likely siphon Repub votes anyway.

I suspect Lamont will win the general with 60% in a two way, or at least 40% in a three way.

Rp
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 02:29 PM
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18. Ignore the jerkoffs
We're constanly called "left-wing extremists" and "anti-war nuts" by the snobs in the media.

Guess what? Most of the country is on our side as far as the war goes (a lot of Republicans too I'm sure). So they're basically calling a majority of Americans "left-wing extremists" and "anti-war nuts".

Screw those media assholes. They're on the wrong side of history.
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