The RNC Spin on Lieberman's Defeat

[TexasLawyer]

An e-mail from my good buddy Ken Mehlman. I just have to say Oh Brother! :crazy::crazy:Let the spin begin! :crazy::crazy:


Dear <TexasLawyer>,

In politics, there are turning points that can define a political party for decades to come. Yesterday's defeat of Senator Joe Lieberman in the Democrat primary in Connecticut is such a moment. Because he stood for a strong national defense and victory in Iraq, Joe Lieberman was successfully targeted for defeat.

For a political party to reject a respected Senator who just six years ago was its candidate for Vice President is virtually without precedent. It speaks volumes about the new Democrat Party: if you stand for a strong defense and victory in the War on Terror, you have no place in the party and you must be purged.

Watch the video and get the facts about what this means about the decline of the Democrat Party - from leadership that would "pay any price, bear any burden" to defend freedom to leaders who want to cut and run from the War on Terror, and surrender other tools needed to keep America safe.

The message from Connecticut is clear, and Ned Lamont isn't alone. He is joined by Rep. John Murtha, architect of the Democrats' position on Iraq and the man who wants to be the next House Majority Leader, who claims America is more dangerous than Iran and North Korea and says, "We've become the enemy." And by Howard Dean, who calls the idea of victory in Iraq "just plain wrong." Watch how the new Democrat Party always chooses weakness over strength, blaming America first.....

[Nutmegger]

1. Victory is a farce

Unless you consider civil war a victory?

Let me add more of these: :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Rainscents]

2. Let me add to it...

:crazy: :crazy:Let the spin begin! :crazy: :crazy:

:argh: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :argh:

[kwolf68]

man i hate these people

We are against illegal, unethical, and unconstitutional invasions that come at the behest of a far-right perspective of world hegemony, imperialism, and colonization.

[Totallybushed]

3. The Republican

party is about to learn a lesson about politics that will keep them out of power for a decade (I hope)

[TexasLawyer]

23. assuming, of course,

that we don't get "Diebolded".

[Totallybushed]

24. Well, yeah,

assuming that.

That may not be a good assumption, either.

RAts.

[warrens]

4. No Ken

If you are even in the same room with your smirking sociopathic murdering giggling asshole buddy and don't go after him, we have no use for you in our party. Anyone who in any way cooperates with this fascist regime does not belong in our party. Period.

[MrModerate]

5. Je-sus! Is Ann Coulter writing Mehlman's stuff now?

No wait, I forgot -- Coulter doesn't write her own stuff anymore.

Is there a decent noun describing the substance that a bloviator bloviates? Cuz we need one right now.

[TexasLawyer]

6. Oh, and here's the "Subject" line for the e-mail

Subject: Weak and Wrong: Today's Defeat-ocrats

[Maat]

7. Just SPECIAL ..

would that be Ken "I'm the Biggest Hypocrite in Town" Mehlman?

We Progressive Dems DO stand for a strong defense - and our young adults not being killed as a result of an illegal and immoral invasion! Deal with it, Ken, America is waking up!

[TexasLawyer]

33. Yeah, bankrupting your country

and bogging down and killing off your military in a futile and counter-productive war is not my idea of a strong defense.

Quite the opposite in my book. Nice try Ken.

[budkin]

8. Melhman is just a self loathing worm

I can't wait to read his e-mail after we take back Congress in November.

[jsamuel]

9. The DLC just handed over their talking points. nothing new

[Lerkfish]

14. great minds think alike...

[leveymg]

10. Were these "victories" in the war on terror?

[Marr]

11. It speaks volumes of Joe Lieberman: The head of the RNC sends

out letters praising him.

[Lerkfish]

12. "must be purged" ...odd wording from Mehlman

by gosh and by golly, isn't that what some DLC DUers keep accusing us of?

y'know, when everyone is spouting the same talking points....

[AspenRose]

13. Did anyone see the segment with Donna Brazile on WJ this morning

WJ=Washington Journal, C-SPAN

Some crazy RW caller actually said the tax paying, registered voters and American citizens of CT were TRAITORS to this country because they elected Lamont.

And another caller said "this just means the Democrat (sic) party is being taken over by MoveOn.Org."

I guess that's why progressive Democrat Cynthia McKinney lost, because 'MoveOn.Org is taking over the 'Democrat' Party.' Yeah, that makes sense. Idiot. :eyes: :dunce:

[iamjoy]

15. I Expected This

In fact, even though I don't believe it, I could have written the first two paragraphs - as a devil's advocate sort of exercise)

[BuhByeChimp]

16. The republicans I work with say...

Something similar although they have made a point to let me know they don't really care who won saying they hated Lieberman for being part of having the Military votes thrown out in Florida during the 2000 election.

Personally, I've been surprised by the things I've seen said about Lieberman by democrats and can see some of the points they are saying.

[gratuitous]

31. Strange . . .

It was Lieberman who rushed out during the Florida 2000 debacle to say that every last military vote should be counted, regardless of whether they were late, incorrectly filled out, or had some other defect that would have rendered the ballot illegal. His stance was in direct contradiction to his own campaign's position that only legal ballots should be counted. It cost his own campaign a couple of very precious days to get their position clarified, made it look like other Democrats were trying to throw out military votes (which they weren't), and badly damaged his own campaign's credibility.

You should set your Republican co-workers straight on the facts, since they seem a little fuzzy:

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Joseph_Lieberman_Principles_+_Values.htm

"Joseph Lieberman said today that Florida election officials should reconsider their rejection of hundreds of military ballots from overseas, even if they might not comply with the law. Lieberman’s comments, a retreat from the position the Democrats had taken since Friday, came after they were stung by Republican charges that they had made a concerted effort to disenfranchise members of the military."

[BuhByeChimp]

35. I don't think it will help.

I already tried about 4 years ago, they didn't care then and probably won't now.

[BuyingThyme]

17. This is Nazism. Plain and simple.

[BuhByeChimp]

18. How exactly is this Nazism?

[BuyingThyme]

22. How could this not be Nazism?

This is EXACTLY what the Nazis did in Germany.

They are recycling the language to paint liberals as a danger to the homeland. With them or against them. With the terrorists or against the terrorists. Liberalism is a danger to the security of all citizens. It's not subtle.

Is this the first you've heard of this?

[BuhByeChimp]

26. Well, I see things differently I guess then.

If you equate the above article to Nazism, I'll just say I'm shocked to see you use that term.

[BuyingThyme]

27. Great. Tell me why. What is the difference between the strategy

above, and the strategy used by the Nazis?

[Mz Pip]

29. Certainly USED byt he Nazis.

Could be used by anyone, but certainly was used by the Nazis. This quote from from Goering:

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm
want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come
back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war
neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine
the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a
communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought
to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism
and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."


Mz Pip
:dem:

[BuyingThyme]

30. I'll never understand why people think the Nazis just evaporated.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm

[Swamp Rat]

19. "you must be purged"

[dogday]

20. He has some freaking nerve talking about Victory

when we are so bogged down in Iraq without no way out, no plan, no nothing.... It is not weak to want to right a wrong, it takes guts, strength and courage.. Qualities the republicans know nothing about....

[Metta]

21. Easily answered. John Murtha, John Kerry, John Glenn. Need I go on?

*All* smoke and mirrors. Completely without substance though it has noise and bombast.

[Generic Other]

25. Blaming Bush First and his supporters second you moran!

Ken, the new Democratic party has lots of fight where you and your Bush shit is concerned!

:mad:

[sutz12]

28. Let the spin begin....

The Rape-uglicans are awfully concerned about a Democratic primary in a small New England state, don't you think?

[maxrandb]

32. It's "Spaghetti Day"

They've seen the polls. They've seen their internal polls. They know they are holding onto power by a fingernail, and they know they are going down this November. The only thing they can do is to try to scare enough people to vote for them. There so concerned about a Democratic primary in a small New England state, because everything else they've tried so far is not working.

They'll see this as a opportunity to divide the Democratic Party. What they don't comprehend, and won't understand until the 2ND Wedneday in November, is that the Democratic Party is more united than ever before! The Democratic Party, (NO, THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA!) have had enough of their fear mongering, tax-cuts for the wealthy, war without end, backstabbing bullshit, and are going to send the Republicans home in droves this fall.

They're grasping at straws. They're trying to keep their feet out of the water, but they don't see the tsunami building behind them. They're throwing spaghetti on the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

[Little Star]

34. Same old, same old. People are waking up. What

war have they won? None. Wheres Bush-Bin-Laden? They don't know. Have they made our borders safe from terror? No. On and on and on. Eventually people can see when you are just a blow-hard. That is a loser strategy this time me thinks.