Looks like Condi is going to be the New Colin Powell

[blue2helix]

The NeoCons need a fall guy (gal) to take the heat just like they did to Colin Powell. This news story (link below) about Condi disagreeing with Bush re Lebanon, might be a leak from a Condi staffer, who sees the writing on the wall, and wants to soften the coming blow to her reputation.

Am I starting to see a pattern here as to who is getting discarded?

No honor among-st thieves.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_Rice_at_odds_over_Israeli_0808.html

[jackstraw45]

1. A lover's spat with lives on the line...

If only there was a blue dress involved.

:sarcasm:

[AndyA]

2. I think there's a pattern here.

Once the folks with dark skin in the Bush Administration get through doing his dirty work for him, Bush has no need for them any longer.

Next!

[blue2helix]

3. I hope this backfires n.t.

[AndyA]

9. So do I. Condi and Colin (hmmm...another similarity) know a lot about

what goes on in the Bush Administration. I think both of them are very intelligent people, and I've never understood why they stood beside a man who has done so much to harm people. I always wrote it off to sheer greed, but I think there must be more to it than that.

Someday, Bush will bite off more than he can chew. And it just might be Condi who opens the door for it.

[atreides1]

11. They may know, but they won't tell

"I've never understood why they stood beside a man who has done so much to harm people."

With Powell there were two reasons!

1. He was always trying to be a good "soldier", which while great for someone still wearing a uniform, does not work well when your job is to be the head diplomat.

2. It was rumored that Michael Powell may have been taking some under the table "gratuaties" while he was with the FCC. And Colin being the good father that he is was protecting his son, even if it did cost American and Iraqi lives.

I'm sure there are some skeletons in Condi's closet as well, not sure what, but you can bet that Karl and Dick have their hands in all of this.

[AspenRose]

23. *ding* *ding* *ding*

I cannot for the life of me understand why ANY minority would vote Republican. Honestly. Alberto Gonzales, same thing.

[mtnester]

4. I noticed/heard on the radio a deputy chief from her office is actually

Lebanon trying to negotiate..not her..I thought that was strange.

[bowens43]

5. Does that mean she's going to

use forged documents to try to justify an immoral and unnecessary war to the UN security council?

[blue2helix]

8. It just means that she is expendable n.t.

[malta blue]

6. Too bad they already picked a new NFL commissioner. n/t

[MrModerate]

7. Her reputation? You mean as Georgie's butt girl?

Monica with brains? Aunt Tomasina? Latter-day countess Potemkin?

That reputation?

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. See also a piece by a recent British press secretary in the Foreign Office

The article is about the rumours that the Bush admin told Tony Blair to fire Jack Straw from being Foreign Secretary in May. It was wondered about at the time, but a piece in the right wing magazine The Spectator a few days ago by Irwin Seltzer, neo-con and Rupert Murdoch's right had man, has given new credence to the rumours - because he's on the side of the neocons. The article is very much on Straw's side, but the author doesn't think Rice was behind the pressure from Washington, but the 'crazies' - and Straw and Rice seem to get on very well together (it was actually becoming a bit of a running joke - their tours of each other's "home patch" looked a bit like taking a boy/girlfiend to see your home town, and meet the parents), so this might be right about Rice's attitude:

One of the most interesting things I did as Jack Straw's press secretary was to arrange the meeting between some of his Muslim constituents and Condoleezza Rice. That day in Blackburn last March came to mind when I saw the extraordinary suggestion that Straw might have been removed from the Foreign Office because the US administration thought he was too influenced by Muslim opinion in the town.
...
Stelzer implies in his Spectator piece that Rice was surprised to find the then foreign secretary representing so many Muslims - it was, he claims, "something Secretary of State Rice noticed on her visit to Jack Straw's constituency".

Rice didn't "notice" it. She knew all about it in advance. I organised that visit, and did two joint planning exercises in Blackburn with her team, who showed her my notes on what to expect. They agreed that she would visit a mosque and wear a headscarf. The idea that she simply happened upon Blackburn's Muslim population is cretinous.

I can't speak for Rice, but my impression is that she relished the prospect of seeing what it is was like for the British foreign secretary to represent thousands of Muslims. She seemed to me open, interested and large-minded in a way the fruitcake cheerleaders of neoconservatism couldn't imagine.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1839938,00.html

[Supersedeas]

21. holding hands the same way with both Colin and Jack--before kicking them

out the door--she's made her f------g bed.

[ToeBot]

12. No surprise, the entire purview of the State Department is antithetical...

to Bush administration goals. Diplomacy is, after all, for sissies.

[blue2helix]

14. Good Point. n/t

[Oversea Visitor]

13. Shot flame torture me if you want

But you guy not seeing danger.
The UN resolution if veto by US
With set whole region ablaze.

Cause then ARAB LEAGUE force to take action to solve it.
That means likely WAR declare on Isreal by them.
They being edge on and on and on
Isreal annoucing more ground offensive for another 30 days.

It is bush solution to all his problems
Why delay till primary result.
Why until now.
You know hole is deep.
Now he dig bigger deeper hole.

Bithing can do but watch now :(
Damn no time congress and senate in recess.
There is noway US not get drag in
Troops in Iraq
Gee more bombing just to make sure all nice and ripe.

China now hey involve trying to solve thing..... CHINA
Yeah yeah spin say trying to build PR in middle east.
Or do they know stake went through roof.
That way inevitable if US veto
Maybe Chirac think hey let has live new conference on this all for fun.
Yeah 100 British MP say recall parliment.
So many sign
But me see to late cause get caught up in Lamont/Liberman fight.
All flying under radar.
Dumb Dumb me grrrrrr.

[blue2helix]

17. Reason for Lebanon attack is to tempt Arab states into attacking

The reason for the recent Lebanon attack is to tempt Arab states into attacking Israel/US. This Will then be an excuse for the NeoCons to invade Syria/Iran.

This is the tricky part

1) NeoCons know that Democratic Congress will change everything and maybe even result in Criminal charges.

2) NeoCons know that if Arab states attack Israel or US before 2006 Congressional election, then they can use "National Security" and Blind Nationalism to consolidate power. So THEY WANT an Arab State to attack!

3) This is a race - Will Democrats take control of Congress BEFORE the NeoCons trick someone into attacking and foil all plans for a Democratic Congress?

[Oversea Visitor]

19. Doh ARAB LEAGUE is 22 countries strong.

This like 1967 but worse.

Time run out

UN vote soon on resolution
If US veto
need petition UN general Assembly to act.
Dont let Arab League to be force to declare war.

Must have ceasefire

World going crazy damn.

UN to vote wedesday so little time

[Justice Is Comin]

15. Monica Lewinsky

would be a better secretary of state than she is.

[malaise]

16. Hahahahahaha

Take that you warmongering piece of lying scum.


Those of us following this noticed the change in tone since Lebanon's Siniora told her not to come back without a ceasefire - the arrogant confidence is gone. They should all be sent to the Hague - Powell too.
Fugg all of Bushco.

[Fleshdancer]

18. I still think they're trying to prep her to be the GOP candidate in '08

For the GOP, the only thing worse than a minority female candidate running for office is Sen. Hillary Clinton.

I bet we'll see a lot more faux "tension" between Rice and Bush...especially once the mid-terms are over. Since Bush's poll numbers can't seem to climb past 36%, the next GOP POTUS candidate will have to find ways to separate her/himself from him. If Rice gets chosen, they can keep the neocons in power while also claiming to deserve the minority vote and splitting the female vote.

[OregonBlue]

22. I agree. This is b.s. from the right. They want to distance her from

her "husband" so they can promote her later. DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING THEY SAY. She is propoganda to try to make her look like a moderate!!

[lyonn]

20. Condi has been a member of the bush family far too long

to be discarded and she is a dependant child, so, she isn't going far from home.

[blue2helix]

24. Randi just made this point!