First Ned now Tassini

[herbbrown]

Isn't time we get behind Jonathan Tassini and his bid to oust Hillary Clinton, he's the anti-war candidate in NY who's fighting against the Republican light candidate in that state. Clinton refuses to debate him there because he hasn't spent a half a million on his campaign (I'm serious). DemocracyNow.org has a great interview with Tassini on their broadcast today. Hillary Clinton is about as Democratic as Newt Gingrich for not having the guts to debate her opponent. Listen to the broadcast of Democracy Now today and decide for yourself, we've taken out the trash in Conn., isn't it time we do the same thing in New York?

[CrazyForKucinich]

1. I agree with this post

except the Tigers avatar.

[herbbrown]

5. Great Minds

Can disagree on baseball, I appreciate the endorsement sorry about those Indians.

[CrazyForKucinich]

30. I'm from Minnesota.

We're still in the hunt. :)

And we beat you last night.

[CrazyForKucinich]

39. And I just put my money where my mouth is

I donated $15(I'm poor) to Tasini's campaign.

http://www.tasinifornewyork.org/

[Connie_Corleone]

2. When is the New York primary?

[herbbrown]

14. the primary is on September 12, 2006

Make it happen!

[kentuck]

3. Hillary is not the same as Lieberman...

even though you may disagree with her war position.

[herbbrown]

7. You're Right

Joe never endorsed the Genocide of Lebanon like Hill did!

[Blue-Jay]

17. I must have missed that

Care to post some links where she endorsed genocide?

[herbbrown]

18. Listen to her speech

the day after Israel began the massacre, it's chilling. If I find it I'll post!

[originalpckelly]

16. If George tried to kiss Hill... that monkey would be missing body parts.

I have a feeling.

[KaptBunnyPants]

28. I agree, we should give wayward Dems a chance.

Hill has been a team player overall, and I still believer her to be more of an asset than a liability. She's already endorsed Lamont and donated to the campaign, and we will need the so called moderates to blunt the media narrative that we want a "purge" of the Party. Now that the mole has been exposed and defeated, Democratic unity should be the message of the day.

[mom cat]

37. Joe wasn't invited to the uber rich Bilderbergs ... Hil was = this

year in Toronto.She is seeking the nod from the king and queen makers. Her hubby is now best friends with Poppy. We just got rig of one demogeorge. We can get rid of another!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

4. Right-o. I'll prepare the firing squad.

Who next after Clinton? Edwards? Reid?

[Greeby]

20. Have a hard job with Edwards

Him being out of office and all

[hedgehog]

23. Hillary is sitting on her money. Edwards is out raising money for

Democrats running for Congress. Who has Hillary supported besides Joe and now Ned? The money she is saving in order to blitz the Presidential Primaries could make a real difference in the 2006 races. Edwards is a real supporter of the Democratic Party. Hillary is a real supporter of Hillary.

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Hillary doesn't go playing kissie face with Bush

NY is an entirely difference situation and it seems that the majority of NYers are happy with her performance has a Senator.

[leftchick]

35. well there was the Ruppert Murdoch love fest

I mean fundraiser. :puke:

[NewSpectrum]

60. "it seems that the majority of NYers

are happy with her performance has a Senator."

Yup, we are.

[EFerrari]

8. Thanks for the heads up! I want to see that.

:)

[democrank]

9. I agree. Send another message.

Hillary can dress up in full combat gear and call a press conference to justify why she voted for Bush`s immoral invasion and to prove she`s tougher than other men. I don`t care. What I DO care about is bringing our troops home. Now.

[Pierzin]

10. all the hypocrites must Go! Fight Injustice and Fascism!!

Hillary doesn't have a ghost of a chance to run for president now, that's for sure, regardless what happens in this NY primary.

Yep, she really is Republican lite!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

11. as a nyer i'm down with that!

[im10ashus]

34. LOL!

I LOVE your cat! I copied and pasted.

B-)

[herbbrown]

12. Go here

for the rest of the story:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/3/135938/3306

http://www.democracynow.org/

[mtnsnake]

13. Speak for yourself

The Hillary/Lieberman comparisons on this forum are getting more fucking ridiculous by the minute.

I'm glad you're not from NY.

[herbbrown]

15. Fairness in accuracy and reporting

also has a piece on it: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2940

[Junkdrawer]

19. NY is also using lever machines as I recall...

That why the corporate media refuses to give Tassini any air time.

[Little Star]

21. NY loves Hil, rightfully so. This will never fly there.

Let her stay in NY just keep her out of the big one.

[hedgehog]

22. The way to keep her out of the big one is to challenge her now.

A coronation on Primary Day is viewed in many circles as the only thing standing between her and the nomination in 2008.

[Little Star]

24. I agree with you but NY loves her and she has done

good by them. The pulse of the CT Dems was pretty ripe to oust Joe. The same can't be said for Hillary in NY. Lets take on fights that we have a chance to win. JMHO.

[hedgehog]

25. That love is a mile wide and an inch deep

If more New Yorkers learn about Tasini, they may switch. Tasini's positions sure seem more popular. If Tasini is good enough for Cindy Sheehen and Barbara Ehrenreich, shouldn't we all be taking a second look?

[im10ashus]

26. He is more in touch with the "real" base of the party.

Being a union supporter, against the war, he also supports gay marriage. I hope he gets the kind of exposure that Lamont did. But we have 1 month left until our primary here in NY.

[EFerrari]

33. If I send him $10, we only need 490,000 more to get him on NY1

lol

What's his site?

:hi:

[im10ashus]

38. Awesome!

http://www.tasinifornewyork.org

I already have donated twice. But I will match your $10.

:hi:

[EFerrari]

41. Thanks!

:)

[KurtNYC]

48. Ads on NY1 are as low as $15

Granted an ad is not a debate but it is exposure.

[EFerrari]

50. What about public access channels? The audience is smaller

but a surprising number of people watch.

[Little Star]

29. You have no "Kiss".

:shrug:

[NewSpectrum]

61. "NY loves Hil, rightfully so."

Yep, we do.

[derby378]

27. Replacing Clinton with Tassini is a monumental task, but...

...the momentum is now shifting away from the DLC towards the grassroots. If you really want to replace Hillary, you have to take some serious notes from the Lamont campaign. And even then, it'll be a nail-biter. Just remember that Lamont won with 52% of the vote - not exactly a landslide, but a victory nonetheless.

[EFerrari]

31. Kick. Watching him now. He's very well spoken and seems

truly progressive. No wonder Hilary won't debate him.

[rinsd]

36. She is 60+ points ahead.

She may pay a small political cost for not debating him but why give your opponent free face time?

[EFerrari]

43. Probably is true that her undemocratic behavior will cost her little.

I'm glad Tasini is running. I wish we had candidates like him to run against all the corporati. It may be the only time in a Senator's entire tenure that they actually listen to the electorate.

What is the return rate to the Senate? It's pretty high, isn't it?

[rinsd]

45. Very high.

Missing debates can be tricky but I just think Clinton is too strong to be damaged by it.

I think it hurt McKinney, certainly not devastating but it did not help.

[maxrandb]

32. It was NOT his position on the War!!!

that cost Jo-Mentum his Senate seat. It was his milktoast approach to fighting. Democrats in CT were tired of Joe bringing a knife to a gun fight. They were tired of Joe being civil and cordial to Bush and the Repukes while Dick Cheney was telling Democratic Senators to "go fuck themselves", and Frist and Co. were sticking knives in the back of other Democrats.

CT was tired of a Democrat that appeared with Sean Hannity, and instead of sucker punching him in the throat, gave him a hug.

CT was tired of a Democrat, who threw Bush a lifeline everytime time the scandalous outrages of this mis-administration had reached the "tipping point".

I'm all for "civility", but being civil to a guy while he's strangling the snot out of you is not my definition of civility. At some point you need to fight.

Joe never understood that Republicans don't want a fair fight, and if he were allowed to stay in the Senate, then the Republicans would eventually turn the "gentlemanly" Senate into the House.

Being cordial does not mean you need to apply the KY Jelly to your asshole so the majority of the Senate has a smooth ride.

That's why Joe lost. The War was a small part of it. The real reason is that Democrats in CT want someone that will forcefully bring this country back from the brink. Say what you will about Joe, but he's not cut out for the fight ahead of us.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

40. No, nope, no way, ain't gonna happen, no, no, no......Hillary is

the best candidate by a New York mile. Hillary can fight and that is what is needed. I know that I have had very strong opinions over a variety of issues over the years, hell, I've had a variety of opinions over a variety of issues in the last six months and I believe a person can learn, grow, and become a better person. If we don't allow people to grow and expand in their opinions then we are no better than the repugs. Hillary is wrong on the war but that position is only temporary. Everyone wants to assign evil political shenanigans to Hillary while I choose to believe she is trying to do the best job possible.

Hillary will see the error of her ways in regarding to the war and she is damn straight on Democratic on every other issue. She will fight tooth and nail for the Democratic party and any one who thinks she won't is just buying the spin. Vote Hillary and keep the seat in the Senate. Tansini is just the Nader of 2006.

I want to see Lamont, and Hillary, and at least 49 other Democratic Senators hoisting Chucklenuts on his on petard come January - that won't happen if we settle for half ass candidates in November.

If you want to take on anyone why not go after the repugs who are still supporting this administration and leave the true, blue Democratic people alone?

[theboss]

42. Yes, it was

I like how in the buildup it was: Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq.

Now, it's not about the war.

The hell?

[maxrandb]

52. How do you figure?

Yes, Joe voted for the war, but so did a lot of other Democrats (let me take that back), they voted to give the Pretzledent the resolution he wanted. Joe, unlike other Democrats, confused his vote for that resolution, for a blank check he had given the Pretzledent to run rough-shod over Congress and the American people.

Joe's death bed conversion, that he disagreed with the conduct of the war, did not pass the smell test.

Remember, it was Joe that said "criticism of the Pretzledent during war undermines his authority. Show me where Hillary ever said that.

Joe also appeared, on numerous times, on the Sean Insanity Show, and instead of hitting him over the head with a chair, told Sean he was "a Great American". Hillary won't be caught dead on Hannity's hate fest, and if she is, then she needs to smack his ass around, not give him a hug.

To me, that was the most offensive thing that Joe did. Didn't Joe ever catch the other 2 hours and 45 minutes of that pricks show?

Let me explain to you why that is a sticking point with me. I'm active duty military. A couple of years back, I was driving down the road with my then 10 year old daughter. I wanted to catch a traffic and weather report, so I reluctantly tuned into Rush until the local station did the traffic update. He said, and I paraphrase, "Democrats and liberals are hoping for more troops to be killed in Iraq". Now, my daughter was young, but she knew my political leanings. She turned to me in her seat and said; "Dad, you really don't want more Americans killed in Iraq, do you"?

These fuckers hate shows ought to be off-limits to every Democrat, unless the Democrats purpose is to personally stomp a new asshole in these pricks. (and yes, to this day, I get emotional about it).

I've heard Joe go on that show and joke and laugh with Hannity, and then 15 minutes later, Hannity would be comparing Democrats to terrorist, or communists. I've heard Joe go on that show, and 15 minutes later, Ann Coulter would be calling for the execution and deportation of liberals, or the bombing of the NY Times.

It was NOT about the war! That is a RW Talking Point, and I'd appreciate you not trying to push it here.

[rinsd]

44. Yeah let's kill all momentum on a pipe dream

He's down 60+ points a month before the primary.

http://www.siena.edu/sri/results/2006/06_Jul_NYPoll_D.htm

She has a 75%+ approval rating from Democrats.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=77ca4b7e-ec24-4213-a4d6-f5053467ebf4&x=1205,2

As well as a 75%+ approval rating from self identified liberals.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=77ca4b7e-ec24-4213-a4d6-f5053467ebf4&x=1206,3

Our attention and resources should be focused on getting the word about the Democrat nominees so we can take back Congress, not tilting windmills.

[helderheid]

46. self delete

[La Coliniere]

47. I'll vote for Tassini, but

I'm afraid most Dems here in NY are going to pull the lever for Hillary (yech). She continues to ride the coattails of her - um - spouse, whom is beloved in this state. I just don't get it.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. I swore that I would never vote for Hillary again and Tassini will get

my vote too. I have not yet heard Tassini being mentioned in major media here in NY. What else is new.......

[CrazyForKucinich]

58. Thanks for voting for the anti-death penalty candidate

*Hugs*

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

59. The death penalty is another way the collective is told that murdering

is ok.

Hugs back to you!

[JitterbugPerfume]

49. he was great on Democracy now

I hope he gets his chance


I have disliked Lieberman ever since his so called "DEBATE" with Cheney

[fishwax]

51. I'd rather conserve our resources for the realm of possibility

i'm no big fan of hillary, particularly as a national candidate. And perhaps if we had more time this might be somehow feasible. But the situation in connecticut was much different than the situation in new york.

I think we should start focusing our tidal wave on gop candidates and the general elections.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

53. Clinton isn't a ruthless Bush-kisser.

Like Lieberman (or Bill Clinton, her husband, for that matter) is.

She's a-okay in my books, as long as she does the honorable thing and not run for president.

[goodhue]

55. you bet

time for some momentum

[goodhue]

56. There is only one "S" in Tasini

[goodhue]

57. Tasini slams Clinton on marriage

http://www.thevillager.com/villager_167/tasinislamsclintonon.html

Volume 76, Number 8 | July 12 - 18, 2006

Tasini slams Clinton on marriage; says she promotes ‘discrimination’

Following last week’s Court of Appeals ruling on gay marriage, Senate candidate Jonathan Tasini condemned Senator Hillary Clinton for her refusal to support gay marriage. Tasini supports gay marriage, but Clinton only backs civil unions.

“Discrimination is discrimination is discrimination and Hilary Clinton obviously does not get it,” said Tasini. “By continuing to triangulate and mouth poll-tested reaction to the discriminatory ruling by the State Court of Appeals, my opponent is actively encouraging the continuation of blatant discrimination against gays and lesbians. I support marriage equality, with no equivocation and no twisting of language because discrimination of any kind is a stain on the soul of our state and our country.”

Tasini called on the State Legislature to immediately enact legislation to legalize same-sex marriage and for the U.S. Congress to follow suit.

“Only civil marriage can provide such vital protection and security to lesbian and gay families as granting the right to visit a hospitalized partner, custody and visitation rights for families, Social Security benefits to a surviving partner, immigration rights for international same-sex couples and hundreds of other legal protections and responsibilities,” noted Tasini.

Tasini will deliver his petitions to get on the ballot this Thursday, needing 15,000 valid signatures to qualify. If he doesn’t get onto the Democratic ballot, he said, he won’t run against Clinton on another party line because he’s a believer in the Democratic Party.

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http://www.thevillager.com/villager_167/tasinislamsclintonon.html