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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:15 AM
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Let's watch grandma get whacked in the head with a 2 liter liquor bottle!
I'm gonna be sick...CNN just ran a loop of a liquor store robber in which the robber approaches the elderly clerk in the store, pretends he's going to buy the hooch, then slams the bottle over her head. I recoiled in horror and turned away...and CNN continued to roll the tape over and over again, glass and rum smashing over the old ladie's head as she drops to the floor. Over and over again.

OFF WITH THE TEEVEE! :puke:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:16 AM
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1. Olberman showed that yesterday...

It was sick. How could anyone be so cruel. Even if he wanted the money, he didn't have to hit her to get it.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:18 AM
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3. I didn't know KO showed it. I'm bummed at him, too.
Yet, remember how outraged DUers were when poor Star Jones got whacked in the face with a football? I wonder where they are now.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:20 AM
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4. In my old neighborhood a thug murdered an old man for 20 bucks
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 08:21 AM by theHandpuppet
He was the sweetest elderly gentleman, in his 70's but working as a clerk in a convenience store to pay his bills. Always had a smile for everyone. Couldn't have hurt a fly as he had Parkinson's. Some young thugs came in one night and blew him away for the 20 bucks in the cash register. According to witnesses he wasn't even resisting. They just killed him anyway.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:23 AM
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5. hope they caught those lowlifes?

Karma's gotta catch up with them sometime.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:31 AM
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11. Oh they were caught all right
But nothing could bring back the old gentleman to his family, who were devastated, as were many, many folks who knew him. I don't understand that kind of callous regard for human life. I moved from that neighborhood shortly thereafter. It was getting so violent I couldn't afford to keep replacing my windows and getting my truck fixed (it was getting vandalized on a weekly basis near the end). When drugs move into a neighborhood you can pretty much kiss it goodbye. I could afford to move, but many others in similar situations simply cannot. They're trapped.

BTW, as I recall, the perps copped a plea in order to avoid a life sentence. They're probably out by now.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:34 AM
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12. They arrested the guy in the video and charged him with attempted murder.
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 08:35 AM by Redbear
Nice article about attempts to clean up the area where this took place:

<http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/08/09/08092006wacneighborhoodwoes.html>
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 10:17 AM
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21. attempted "capital" murder...

...is what they said on Olberman. Now what's the difference between capital murder and 1st degree? Anyone know?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:17 AM
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2. Did they also show the McDonald's footage?
Same guy walks up to a counter at a McD's and cold cocks this older man. Local news kept replaying both last night. :-(
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:26 AM
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6. There's just no respect for the elderly in our society
Once you ain't pretty and uber-productive anymore, we ain't got no time for you. It's a fact that really needs to change if we want to get better, the old folks have a lot of insight and knowledge you need. Sick bastards...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:30 AM
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10. I don't think elderly has much to do with it..
... the thugs would probably shot a 20 something with a new kid just as quick.

But one wonders why we are getting a sudden rash of this kind of footage. It's not like security cameras or these sorts of events are anything new.
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enuffs_enuffs Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:57 AM
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13. SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!
When the above is the mantra... EVERYTHING else takes a back seat to "the future."

I'm not really surprised at all.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:27 AM
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7. This is why I swore as a kid NEVER to work around money EVER,
if I could help it.
And thankfully, I could.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:29 AM
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8. Smart kid. My gals will never work a counter, either.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:29 AM
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Me too. I started with nothing, and I still have most of it left!
Seriesly though, I hear you. Me too. Never had a job involving cash registers or front-line retail.
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:29 AM
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9. I think running it once is arguably news.
Repeatedly running it is exploitation.

What is worse is that the media is not reprting that this happened in Waco less than 20 miles from where the alleged president was tooling around on his bike.
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Doctor Venmkan Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:21 AM
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14. Agreed...
with "Repeatedly running it is exploitation." So many '24-7-365 NEWS' networks, what can we expect?

But about Bush...eh, so what? Does anyone expect him to ride in there in a white hat to the rescue? Or Cheney??? God help the little old lady if Dick came in toting a gun! He'd probably hit HER instead of her attacker....!

I may be a pessimist, but cases like this show that society is just going down the crapper, and it would be the same if we'd had a better president in office since 2000. These kinds of ills take a lot longer than 6 years to fix, if they even CAN be at all. IMO!
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:26 AM
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15. Here is a photo of the guy plus video (taken from another site)
What makes this crime even more disgusting her grandkids were sitting in the store and saw the whole thing. Bet CNN didnt mention that.



http://68.22.73.69/7/324/12939/v0001/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0808/9645656.300k.wmv?MSWMExt=.asf
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Doctor Venmkan Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:30 AM
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16. Retail Management gives MUCH more of a damn about their inventory...
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 09:36 AM by Doctor Venmkan
...than the safety of their slaves - er, employees. And unfortunately, I speak from experience.

At the pharmacy where I work, "Loss Prevention" is the order of the day, the company spends an untold amount of money on tagging merchandise and INTERNAL monitoring, "scaring us straight" 24-7. LP is nicknamed, "the gestapo," and not without reason.

But at the same time, while we sit on around $70,000 worth of prescription drugs back in the pharmacy, the fuckers can't even be bothered to install a SECURITY CAMERA! Even after the store the next town over was held up at gunpoint by a guy so crazy, he blew his own head off rather than surrender to police!

Of course, I guess stories like this don't help...the cameras sure didn't help that old woman. And I guess if they DID put cameras in, they'd be aimed at US, not outside where a robber would come from!

Besides Loss Prevention, "liability" is their next concern. So of course for those inclined and legally able to do so, carrying a gun for protection (against violent robbers that will hurt you even AFTER you give them whatever they want!!!!) is out of the question. They just hang up their little "no guns" sign like it's a magic talisman, expecting everyone with bad intentions to obey it.

Now of course, not EVERY store out there is as slack-ass in security as ours. It's one thing to willingly surrender my gun to the car or home safe to enter a place that is patrolled by trained and armed security...

But if someone is ever hurt in a robbery involving a gun in a place like OURS (IE - your "security" is to give the perp everything he wants and pray for mercy from him) that is posted, I want to see the person who posted the "no guns" sign held LIABLE in court! After all, s/he is giving a false promise of security to shoppers and employees!

I wonder if violence is becoming much more common in people, because there has to be SOMEthing to replace "decency" and "common sense?"
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:55 AM
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19. Hmmm, I have a couple of friends who work at a chain pharmacy too
open 24 hours - they simply let people walk out with product if they chose to because there are no night protections at all for them, no bullet proof glass, no cages, no panic button, no cameras...nothing.

If a thug comes in, picks up a basket full of stuff, glares at them and starts to walk out, my friends do not even blink about letting them go.

Each is looking for other employement...

And I will say the company - CVS
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Doctor Venmkan Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 06:39 PM
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22. I would say I was shocked at how irresponsible the company must be...
...except I'm not shocked at all. ;) Tell them to take care until they are in a hopefully safer job. Being highly aware of your surroundings (I think the pros call it "condition orange" or something) is a good idea.

And I agree with letting the shoplifters walk out. All of 'em, not just the "thuggish" ones. In fact, (surprisingly) it's company policy. But being the cynic that I am, I think it has more to do with liability than employee protection! ;)
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:43 AM
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17. Once again something f-ed up happens in a "Solid Red State".

Is it just me or does it seems that when ever on of these unusually weird, degrading, and/or violent crimes go down that 80% of the time they happen in a red state?

And maybe just me again but when they are in a red state, it seems that it happens in Florida or Texas over 90% or the time? Mostly it's Florida but there's some Texas too.
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:50 AM
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18. stuff like this being broadcast is good because...
it helps people who have a hard time believing that there really are vicious, vile, murderous, scumbag thugs out there.

some people like to explain away even the most evil, premeditated murderous acts . see: somebody trying to blame the mental health system for the seattle jewish federation shooter (because he is bipolar. big whoop. bipolar disorder =/= murderous premeditated rampage)

there are MANY criminals who are truly not that bad. bad set of circumstances, crime of passion, etc. many of them. and many others wrongfully (imo) imprisoned merely because they chose to do illegal drugs.

but there are others that are just quasi-sociopathich evil selfish murderous scumbags


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:57 AM
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20. That's horrible.
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 10:00 AM by cat_girl25
It's just like another incident when this jerkoff was stealing videos and kicked the attendant in the face that tried to help him. That one was definitely hard to look at. It was caught on video too. He ran out of the store after he did that. I don't know if they caught the guy but I sure hope they did and locked him up.
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