If Lieberman ends up with around 48% he easily wins in a 3 way race

[RB TexLa]

for the general election.

[mconvente]

1. Don't be too sure.

Ned will have even more time to get his message out. And it will be national this time (even more than it is now), so he can be the poster boy for a WINNING strategy - Anti-War

[joemurphy]

4. Iraq isn't going to get any better and that's bad for Joe n/t

[joemurphy]

17. He'll be seen as a traitor to the Democratic party.

That'll cost him votes too.

[jpkenny]

35. And neither will Lebanon get any better. nt

[mom cat]

5. And Joe will look like a Party Pooper . ...Dem Party that is.

[HockeyMom]

20. He won't get the support of other Dem Senators

anymore. Plus, as a former 30 year Independent, I can tell you his losing in the Democratic Primary, and THEN running as an Independent, would stick in my craw. He isn't an Indy, he is a sore loser and only cares about his own political ambitions.

[JeffR]

2. That 48% begins dropping the moment he gives his concession speech

And really starts to drop the moment he announces he is running as an Independent. He's done.

[TomInTib]

11. Yep. A loser is a loser in America.

He is screwed.

And deservedly so.

[JeffR]

23. Amen

[Guaranteed]

13. Yup. nt

[BuyingThyme]

28. Yep. Once he starts attacking the Party outright, he may

be done.

[T Town Jake]

3. Yep. And the howling will be intense in some quarters.

(n/t)

[Marr]

6. I don't think so. If Lieberman runs as an Independent, he's going to

seriously piss off alot of voters. That's just a big "fuck you" to every Dem in the state.

[fooj]

12. Yep.

If he loses (which I believe that he will) stick a fork in him. He's done.

[Salviati]

No kidding...

I mean, no one who voted for Lamont in the primary will switch to Lieberman in the general. But there are likely a lot of loyal democrats in Connecticut, who will vote for the democratic candidate, even if it's not their guy. I presume that Lieberman's support will drop by at least half after he loses.

[Bucky]

32. As Lieberman moves to the "center" for the gen'l election, he'll lose Dems

It'll be pretty close. But just by losing tonight, Lieberman will lose some of his 48% of the Democrats. As he goes after independent and Republican votes, he'll lose more. He'll have to run a careful campaign, balancing the messages of "I'm a dependable Democrat" and "I'm a mainstream independent moderate" and "I'm not a spoiler" all at once. And politicians who are busy being careful invariably screw themselves.

I won't say he's out of it. His chances are still pretty good--particularly from breaking the 48% threshold. But I'd still give the edge to Lamont, who has far more room than Lieberman to maneuver to the center without coming off as a panderer.

[jackpan1260]

7. He was already polling 40% to Lamont's 40% in the latest rasmussen poll

Please explain how losing the primary would increase his numbers.

[fishwax]

8. just because they voted for him in the primary doesn't mean they'd

do the same in the general election if he's running against the democratic ticket.

[jpkenny]

37. I think the loyalists will have paid their dues by supporting Lieberman

in the primary but all bets are off in the election. Most Dems will be voting Dem and supporting the Dem ticket...at least that's what I am hoping.

[Toots]

9. I think there are a few Republicans that would like the war over

The Lamont family is an old established political family there and Ned may surprise you at his appeal.

[OregonBlue]

10. Many big time Dems have promised to support Lamont if he wins.

Given his "star" status he should get PLENTY of coverage!!

[flyarm]

29. it would be suicide for any dem to support and indy over a dem!

absolute suicide for any elected dem to support a independant over a primary winner dem!

i think this is nothing but bullshit, wishful thinking ..

any dem who supports joementum over lamont in a lamont win..will be putting a noose over their head!

fly

[OregonBlue]

49. You bet, and Reid must remove Lieberman from all committees

now that he is an independent and not a Democrat!!!

[WilliamPitt]

14. Rilly?

When the national Dems abandon him for bailing out of the party...

When reports surface that his campaign is getting large cash infusions from the GOP...

When a second independent jumps in to offset Joe (a rumor I've heard)...

...I think you'll be wrong.

[Boomer]

15. Just proves what we know already

Joe is not a committed Democrat. His agenda is the "Joe Lieberman" agenda, and running has everything to do with keeping his hand-in-glove relationship with lobbyists and special interest groups.

[w4rma]

16. The last 3 way Lamont and LIEberman had 40% each. LIEberman will drop

now that he is no longer a Democrat.

[newsguyatl]

HARDLY

he'll have ALL well known national democrats going AGAINST him... Ned will get a HUGE surge of support and media attention now after winning.

so again, HARDLY.

[Imagevision]

44. Clinton already stated he wouldn't support Joe if he lost the primary

[Imagevision]

18. Iraq Civil war will be more intense by november - not good for Joe

[mike_c]

19. I don't believe that any longer.....

Lieberman has lost any momentum he might have had. Even republicans will be ashamed to vote for him now. He is a loser-- the stigma will defeat him in the end.

[Erika]

34. The psychological factor indeed will play a part

His state is a blue state and they won't take kindly to him changing colors.

[Cha]

21. I just hope Lamont makes

it over this primary hurdle and then we can fight the next battle!

[Selatius]

22. Rasmussen disagrees with your assertion

Rasmussen's last poll put them in a dead heat at 40-40 in a three way race with Schlesinger added in.

[Tempest]

25. Lieberman's numbers will drop in the polls if he runs as an independent

As November nears, Democrats will rally around Lamont when the party leaders endorse Lamont and to make sure a Repug doesn't take the seat.

[flyarm]

24. nonsence!!!!!!!!!!..totally crapola!! n/t

[helderheid]

26. If he runs as an I, he PISSES all over the Democratic party.

[RandomUser]

27. If he runs as an (I), he is going to lose

And he absolutely should lose.

[helderheid]

33. Cheers to that.

:toast: <-- more than appropriate this smiley is called "toast" which is what Lieberman is.

[never_get_over_it]

30. I'm not even sure he will run as an independent

there will be a Democratic party intervention to tell him NO - he can't win - no real Dem would vote for him as an independent because he will have proven our point all along that he is a Democrat in Name Only.

[Erika]

36. W's kiss of death

won't be erased by him running as an independent. Joe needs to wake up.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

31. The Republican Candidate Alan Schlesinger is such a non-entity

that perhaps the vast majority of Republicans will desert him, knowing he will lose anyway. I understand that he's a professional card counter who spends all his time gambling in casinos. So you might have a point, especially if Republican campaign money and endorsements start going to Joe.

[Crunchy Frog]

38. Even if true, you still won't be allowed to promote him on this site.

Violation of DU rules.

[RB TexLa]

42. I haven't promoted anyone in this race

But I think it wouldn't violate the rules as he would still be a registered Democrat. One can be the nominee of a party he is not a member of, I think Koch was nominated by the Dems, GOP and Liberal party once for mayor of New York.

[Crunchy Frog]

45. The Rules:

You are not permitted to use this message board to work for the defeat of the Democratic Party nominee for any political office. If you wish to work for the defeat of any Democratic candidate in any General Election, then you are welcome to use someone else's bandwidth on some other website.

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Ned Lamont is the Democratic party candidate. You cannot support his opponent on this site. If you have a problem with the rules, take it up with the administrators.

[RB TexLa]

46. I have no problem with it, I was not for or against either of them

in the primary or in the general.


edited I hadn't seen the rule about the nominee before the previous post, I'm sure it will be a battle on here, but like I said doesn't involve me in any supporting a candidate role. :popcorn:

[Crunchy Frog]

48. There won't be any battle.

Just because one side in the battle will have all it's posts deleted by the moderators.

[greccogirl]

39. I'm pretty sure that

is exactly what is going to happen.

[mnhtnbb]

40. Anybody in CT know numbers of Repubs who switched parties to vote for Joe

in the primary? I don't think Joe's a certainty. He's gone down now. He can go down again.

[usregimechange]

41. He may divide the GOP more than the Dems

[Ouabache]

43. Clinton needs to call Joes fucking ass on the carpet for this

Clinton needs to rquest a meeting with Joe and go nuclear on him.

[Gloria]

47. This is a HUGE test for the Democratic Party...if they don't shut

this sucker down, then they are no better than the Republicans in terms of ignoring the votes of the people!

And frankly, I'm ready for activism devoted to killing off this bunch now! No cash for me to this party if they allow this pig to run...