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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:15 PM
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repost : Deadly Israeli strike scatters mourners
By AHMED MANTASH, Associated Press Writer
26 minutes ago

GHAZIYEH, Lebanon - Mourners in a funeral procession for Israeli airstrike victims scattered in panic Tuesday as warplanes again unleashed missiles that hit buildings and killed 13 people, witnesses and officials said.

The first missile struck a building about five minutes after the march by about 1,500 people had passed by, killing one person and wounding five.

The blast was close enough to send mourners screaming, "Allahu akbar!" or "God is great!" Some broke away from the procession, while others continued on.

They were burying some of the 15 people killed in Ghaziyeh on Monday, when Israeli airstrikes flattened three buildings in the Shiite town southeast of the port city of Sidon.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20060808/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_880
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060808/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel



Aug. 8, 2006. Israeli airstrikes hit near a funeral procession in south Lebanon on Tuesday, sending some of the 1,500 mourners running in panic and killing at least 13 people in nearby buildings, witnesses, hospital officials and the town's mayor said. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)

video here (towards the end)

http://www.euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=374217&lng=1
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:20 PM
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1. FUCKING BARBARIANS!
Since WHEN does a funeral procession resemble
Hezbollah fighters?

May the perpetrators of these atrocities burn in hell.
And WHERE the fuck are the decent humans in this world?
Why is no one intervening?
Why is Israel being allowed to openly and maliciously
attack civilians?
WHY????
BHN
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:24 PM
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3. Israel doesn't give a
flying fugg. She has US permission to slaughter at will.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:22 PM
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2. I'm pretty sure Hezbollah doesn't walk around in the open in huge numbers
Is Israel deliberately trying to create more enemies?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:28 PM
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4. Olmert: "IDF--the most moral army in the world"
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1149572658286

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert declared in Sunday's cabinet meeting that he rejected any criticism of the morality of the IDF.

"The IDF is the most moral army in the world," the prime minister said. "It does not and never has made a policy of targeting civilians."

more...
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:42 PM
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13. lieing filthy bastard.
just when I thought my capacity for despising anyone was met with Bush, this f'in piece of SHIT comes up with this ...

may the people of Israel realize what is going on and kick that sonofabitches boney fucking ass out of the country, and take his damned warmongers with him.

fuckfuckfuckfuck!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:12 PM
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22. he and gillerman
are like fucking vampires! :grr:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:14 PM
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23. I have put Olmert
on ignore. He is a pathological liar.

Here's his latest act - just breakign worldwide.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20068146-5005961,00.html

AN Israeli strike on the southern Lebanon Palestinian refugee camp of Ain Al Hilweh killed at least two people, medics said today.
It was the first time Israel has bombarded the Palestinian refugee camp, the largest in Lebanon and home to some 50,000 refugees, since the start of the four-week-old conflict.

The missiles targeted the area around the home of Colonel Munir Maqdah, a military chief of the Fatah movement in Lebanon, Palestinian sources said.
-----
Israel is murdering people with impunity but justice will come one day and I hope they can deal with it.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:29 PM
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5. more war crimes from terrorists *graphic* *Dead Baby*


A Lebanese injured woman lies in a hospital bed in the southern port city of Sidon, Lebanon, Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006, after a building collapsed in the town of Ghaziyeh following Israeli airstrikes. Israeli airstrikes hit near a funeral procession in south Lebanon on Tuesday, sending some of the 1,500 mourners running in panic and killing at least 13 people in nearby buildings, witnesses, hospital officials and the town's mayor said. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)



A Lebanese morgue worker and a nurse cover the body of a dead l girl at a hospital morgue in the southern port city of Sidon, Lebanon, Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006, after a building collapsed in the town of Ghaziyeh following Israeli airstrikes. Israeli airstrikes hit near a funeral procession in south Lebanon on Tuesday, sending some of the 1,500 mourners running in panic and killing at least 13 people in nearby buildings, witnesses, hospital officials and the town's mayor said. (AP Photo/Mohammed Zaatari)

How the fuck is this allowed to continue? :cry:



A Lebanese Red Cross worker (bottom) signals to colleagues that he found three bodies under the rubble after an Israeli air strike on Ghaziyeh village, south Lebanon, August 8, 2006. (Ali Hashisho/Reuters)
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:34 PM
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7. Ah, the question that has my head EXPLODING!
WHY is this being allowed to happen???
Has the whole world gone mad?
SOMEONE make it STOP!

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
BHN
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:32 PM
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6. k&r and a question about this incident, why? how can this help?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:35 PM
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8. I am begining to think
Olmert and the rest are just fucking bloodthirsty because there is no logical reason for this genocide. :cry:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:37 PM
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9. In the beginning, I thought 1 thing, as I see more, learn more, changed
am beginning to think this also. "defending" yourself does not work for things like this, rather the opposite.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:40 PM
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12. I think we have to start to question, "Just what does the leadership
of Israel get by keeping this war mentality going? By ALWAYS finding some reason NOT to agree to peace."

There is something to be said for tossing the entire world up in the air like a jigsaw puzzle and then keeping the pieces flying and never allowing them to settle.

They and their representatives keep this confusion going for some ulterior motive.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:20 PM
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24. War is Peace
In past ages, a war, almost by definition, was something that sooner or later came to an end, usually in unmistakable victory or defeat. In the past, also, war was one of the main instruments by which human societies were kept in touch with physical reality. All rulers in all ages have tried to impose a false view of the world upon their followers, but they could not afford to encourage any illusion that tended to impair military efficiency. So long as defeat meant the loss of independence, or some other result generally held to be undesirable, the precautions against defeat had to be serious. Physical facts could not be ignored. In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an aeroplane they had to make four. Inefficient nations were always conquered sooner or later, and the struggle for efficiency was inimical to illusions. Moreover, to be efficient it was necessary to be able to learn from the past, which meant having a fairly accurate idea of what had happened in the past. Newspapers and history books were, of course, always coloured and biased, but falsification of the kind that is practised today would have been impossible. War was a sure safeguard of sanity, and so far as the ruling classes were concerned it was probably the most important of all safeguards. While wars could be won or lost, no ruling class could be completely irresponsible.

But when war becomes literally continuous, it also ceases to be dangerous. When war is continuous there is no such thing as military necessity. Technical progress can cease and the most palpable facts can be denied or disregarded. As we have seen, researches that could be called scientific are still carried out for the purposes of war, but they are essentially a kind of daydreaming, and their failure to show results is not important. Efficiency, even military efficiency, is no longer needed. Nothing is efficient in Oceania except the Thought Police. Since each of the three super-states is unconquerable, each is in effect a separate universe within which almost any perversion of thought can be safely practised. Reality only exerts its pressure through the needs of everyday life -- the need to eat and drink, to get shelter and clothing, to avoid swallowing poison or stepping out of top-storey windows, and the like. Between life and death, and between physical pleasure and physical pain, there is still a distinction, but that is all. Cut off from contact with the outer world, and with the past, the citizen of Oceania is like a man in interstellar space, who has no way of knowing which direction is up and which is down. The rulers of such a state are absolute, as the Pharaohs or the Caesars could not be. They are obliged to prevent their followers from starving to death in numbers large enough to be inconvenient, and they are obliged to remain at the same low level of military technique as their rivals; but once that minimum is achieved, they can twist reality into whatever shape they choose.

The war, therefore, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are set at such an angle that they are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that it exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three super-states, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed for ever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This -- although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense -- is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: War is Peace.

http://www.online-literature.com/view.php/1984/17
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:17 PM
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25. Much food for thought. Thanks for the link...I have always resisted
reading Orwell...the doomsday feeling thing I get...but now I have no excuse...you have provided me a link that puts the material right here in front of me.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:39 PM
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10. Oops - Reuters changed the story again

Now says the bombings "were not in the immediate vicinity of the funeral".


http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topnews&storyID=2006-08-08T161445Z_01_L07726695_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST.xml

"Israeli air raids killed 14 people and wounded 23 in the southern village of Ghaziyeh, rescue workers and hospital officials said. The bombs fell as mourners were burying 15 people killed by a raid there the previous day. They struck targets that were not in the immediate vicinity of the funeral."
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:40 PM
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11. check the video. Why are people running ? nt
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:46 PM
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16. ??????

>check the video. Why are people running?

Ya got me - Just letting ya know that Reuters changed their report on the matter. Why do you think they did that?

;-)

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:43 PM
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14. close enough for them to drop the caskets
I just watched the video of the attack on CBS.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:45 PM
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15. ooops
nice try
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:51 PM
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17. ?????

I didn't change the Reuters news report - Reuters did. Would you rather not know?

;-)
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:52 PM
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19. the report didn't change in any substantial way at all
like I said, nice try.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:01 PM
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20. Sure it did

Reuters changed its report to make clear that Israel did not either purposely or mistakenly target the mourners in the funeral which was what the implications that was in their first report. That is also the implication that many folk posting in this thread seemed to have taken. Reuters did not change the fact that people in the funeral were scared.

Do you understand now? If not please complain to Reuters. They changed their story - not me. Maybe they'll change it back for you.

;-)

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:10 PM
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21. no, you prove what you are saying
That's not what you originally said was changed. So now you are talking about "implications." Whatever you inferred is your responsibility, not Reuters.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:52 PM
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18. Well spotted n/t
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