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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:31 PM
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Lamont vote is Anti-Bush (much more than it is anti-war)
The MSM keeps chanting how Lamont is anti-war and will be anxious to continue to ignore the real message of this race. Lamont supporters didn't pass out buttons with slogans against the war, etc. They passed out buttons of Lieberman kissing Bush. They followed Lieberman around with a paper mache' float of Lieberman kissing Bush. Even the Lieberman campaign understood this well enough to try and answer with buttons of their own (the "hug").

On Schiavo, on social security "reform", on the ever-expanding imperial presidency, Lieberman has foolishly supported B*sh. And he will now pay the price for it but I fully expect the MSM to play dumb (method acting for some) and scratch their heads and wonder aloud "where did all these anti-war people come from?"
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:34 PM
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1. yeppers! Corporate media wants to make it only about the war.
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:35 PM
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2. did they really pass out buttons with the kiss?
genius...pure genius. They should do something like that for all the other flea bags running around touting bush such as "sanitarium"
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:12 PM
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10. They are now being sold as collectibles
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:35 PM
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3. DING! DING! DING!! We have a winner!!! nt
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:38 PM
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4. *Ahem* Vote for Joe, Status-quo
Vote for Ned, Change Instead
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:39 PM
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5. This is not a fair assessment.
This assumes all Connecticut voters are one or two issue voters. While that may be a tipping point for the race, a Lamont vote is not necessarily an anti-Bush vote, nor is a Lieberman vote pro-Bush.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:18 PM
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11. As I pointed out - Schiavo, Social Security, Dissent, plus 2-party
democracy (where one of the parties is a real opposition party), the Iraq Occupation/war, separation of church and state, censorship, and more are all issues where Lieberman is vulnerable. Primarily because Lieberman has consistently aligned himself with B*sh.

It is about more than 1 or 2 issues. It is about all the issues where Lieberman is at odds with Democrats. And tomorrow there will be one more issue going against Lieberman -- he will be out of the closet and running as a non-Democrat. He will run openly against the Democratic nominee.

And have I mentioned his wife's job?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:44 PM
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6. BINGO! The right wing media doesn't want to portray a vote for
Lamont as anti-Bush, because that would reflect negatively on the GOP as a whole. They want to spin it as a vote against the war, which they will be quick to point out a lot of Dems voted for.

Ignore the fact that most of the Dems had bad information provided to them prior to their vote, and ignore the fact that the Bush Administration hid information that would make it less likely to get a vote for the war in Iraq. Also ignore the fact that war was never declared by Congress, so Bush really doesn't have war powers.

I see a vote for Lamont as a vote of hope, a vote of change, a vote of restoring democracy to America.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:06 PM
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9. "Most Democrats see the vote for Lamont as a vote for hope..." yep. nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:03 PM
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7. We need to stop evaluating things on the basis of war profiteering
corporate news monopoly "talking points."

WHAT'S WRONG with it being an anti-war campaign? WHAT'S WRONG with that message rippling across the country into the hearts of the over 70% of Americans who oppose Bush's war on Iraq, and the EIGHTY-FOUR PERCENT of Americans who oppose any U.S. participation in a widened Mideast war?

Seems to me it will warm people's hearts that a Democrat is FINALLY representing MAINSTREAM American opinion on warmongering, unjustified, preemptive mass killing, often of innocents, torture, and a $10 TRILLION debt to pay for all this criminality.

You're worried they're prepping for "talking point #2"--that Democrats are "weak"? Take a look at the new poll today (posted here at DU) on THAT issue.

And anyway WHO CARES what they say? The American people obviously don't. 24/7 fascist propaganda pumped out over all the airwaves, and LOOK at the polls over the last two years--issue polls, approval polls, corporate and independent. People ARE NOT buying it. It's NOT WORKING.

We give far too much credit to their "swiftboating" garbage, and far too little credit to Bushite corporations owning and controlling the TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, by which most of our votes are now "tabulated," with virtually no audit/recount controls. One insider hacker, a couple of minutes, leaving no trace--that's all it takes to flip tens of thousands of votes.

I'm glad to hear CT doesn't have e-voting. I hope they don't have central electronic tabulators. Whatever message CT voters are trying to send, I hope they aren't thwarted in doing so, and I hope it's loud and clear, and anti-war and anti-Bush. And I'd like to know what the difference is. Bush IS his war. --in all its ugliness, and cost, and associated fascist policy including stolen elections.

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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:04 PM
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8. Exactly; and the media is saying that it is "a battle for the soul of the
Democratic party" and they will be rejected in the fall...blah blah blah. You are correct it is the kiss and the rest of the ass kissing by Lieberman. I totally forgot about the Shiavo thing.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:24 PM
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12. Michael Schiavo went to CT to campaign with Lamont
Schiavo
Michael Schiavo: U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman "thinks that government should have made that decision," he said. "Joe Lieberman is wrong, and that's why Joe Lieberman is going to be defeated."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/27/politics/main...

Privatizing Social Security
Mr. Lieberman set off alarms within the party even before the State of the Union address. "This is an ongoing problem, and we'd be wise to deal with it," Mr. Lieberman told The Hartford Courant in January when asked about Social Security. "If we can figure out a way to help people through private accounts or something else, great." - NYTimes 3/7/2005

Pro-Imperial Presidency
And of course Joe infamously uttered phrases including: “In matters of war, we undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril."
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:34 PM
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13. IMHO...a vote against LIEberman is a
vote against the DLC and centrist Democrats. Ned Lamont is not leftie but I don't think he'll be kissing Bush's lips that's for sure!!
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:45 PM
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14. Lets not forget the environment
Thanks to LIEberman' support of BushCo's energey policy, we can't stop a LNG storage tank from being built in Long Island Sound
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:51 PM
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15. Yes!
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:05 PM
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16. Anti War, Anti Bush or anti BS.
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 07:06 PM by niallmac
I think there is pent up frustration about the neutering of the
American voter. Work hard. Pay most of the taxes and shut up
is the warm fuzzy message from corporate America.

I think many voters are tired of a myriad of things in this
Potemkin democracy.
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