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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:45 PM
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Kris Jansing MSNBC--Tech consultant said Lieberman's site hacked
via one of the comment boxes. Someone put a long string of characters in to confuse the server and slipped a virus in that way. Now how he knows this absolutely, I don't know. He just said it was hacked for certain.
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:47 PM
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1. ha ha ha
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:48 PM
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2. Not bloody likely
Unless the page was designed to allow that to happen, or the site admins were incredibly stupid and using very outdated software with known and demonstrated flaws.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:27 PM
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43. I've seen it happen...
The specific vulnerability mentioned is called an SQL injection, which means the user typed a string designed to be misinterpreted as SQL database code, causing you to be able to hack the database to do your evil bidding.

As an example, think of what would happen in a search box like you see on many sites if you typed in the box 'foobar"; DELETE TABLE' or something similar (my SQL-fu isn't especially strong, but you should get the idea. That string is passed to the database as a command "SELECT * FROM table WHERE string = "foobar"; DELETE TABLE"...

Good web software should be able to check for this, and disallow characters and strings that would enable users to inject SQL through web forms, but there's always places where checks are missed, or clever hackers can find ways to circumvent the checks.

I've seen it happen on live websites first-hand.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:48 PM
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3. time to get a new tech consultant...
:crazy:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:49 PM
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4. Unless Kris Jansing has server access he's talking BS
If he's taking the word of Joe's web staff, he doesn't know "absolutely".

Joe and the MSM's last-minute smear campaign is going off without a hitch.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:00 PM
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14. Sorry, Kris Jansing was the CNN anchor interviewing the tech.
I wasn't clear about that.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:01 PM
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15. MSNBC anchor.
As if there's a difference. :-)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:09 PM
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21. I need a nap.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:49 PM
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5. So much for the security factor
on that server.....
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:49 PM
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6. So Lieberman (as demonstrated by his website) is soft on security
just kidding but wow, could MSNBC be any less technical??
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:52 PM
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7. hmmph! They'd have to allow JavaScript in the comment boxes
and you'd have to be an idiot to do that
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:47 PM
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28. maybe somebody forgot to pay the bill
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 01:48 PM by librechik
it looks like a standard past due out-of-money page when you go there, not a DOS like Lieberman's people are implying
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:52 PM
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8. Bull. Let's hear from the WEBHOST'S tech consultants, huh?
Their voices seem oddly ABSENT from this propaganda shitstorm.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:56 PM
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13. Do we know who that is? n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:52 PM
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9. A long comment leads to a buffer overflow exploit?
Were they using software from 1992, or what? How do they know that somebody didn't just post a long comment if they're that vulnerable?

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard...

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:55 PM
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11. Maybe a Deibold tech designed it!
Lieberman is now saying "they are trying to disenfranchise voters". What?????? Huh????? How a candidate's website affects getting to a poll and casting a vote is beyond me!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:22 PM
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25. If this were the case
it would be kinda funny if the comment text that took the site down was nothing but an ad for a casino. I've seen more than a few blogs and comment boxes filled with repetitive "come play poker, blackjack, etc." ads.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:42 PM
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27. "d1scount C1alis!"
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:58 PM
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29. there are those too
Damn they're annoying. :rofl:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:54 PM
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10. Bullshit. A comment box? Which is normally parsed through the
cgi-bin, by a script that specifically tells the server what to do with the information provided in the comment boxes.

Reprogramming the server via a comment box is not usually included in a script that processes a form field.

BULLSHIT. Try again.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:56 PM
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12. It looks like the FBI will trace it. Ned supporters may get nabbed.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:02 PM
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16. Link?
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:05 PM
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18. he has no link
he has nothing. he just makes unsupported statements that favor lieberman then offers no backup
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:20 PM
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24. The FBI has been called in. Ned-head hackers had better watch out.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:23 PM
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26. You're Bullshit Is Transparent To Everyone
Just sayin'.

Pathetic, really.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:04 PM
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31. just keep jumping thread to thread..
and leave your little dropping all over the place...

(I believe that Skinner has alreaady debunked the hack)
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:09 PM
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34. 3rd time I've seen you post this bullshit with no evidence.
So, what exactly is your agenda?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:18 PM
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39. or rove operatives right??? or freepers who want to play the rovian game
plan???????? right?????????

thought so..

fly
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:03 PM
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17. So, by that logic, Ned supporters hacked the site and put up a statement..
.. blaming themselves for the attack.

How, exactly, does that make sense? :eyes:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:05 PM
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19. Chinese students may get nabbed.
A 13 year old with a day off at camp may get nabbed.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:07 PM
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20. It Looks Like The Federation of Planets Will Trace It. Aliens May Get
Nabbed. :eyes:

Good lord are you full of shit.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:16 PM
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23. I'll bet Suri Cruise is behind this!!!
Hacking from Planet Xenu!!!

:-)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:01 PM
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30. Lieberman's website did go down about the same time KO played that tape
allegedly of Suri Cruise on Countdown last night. Makes you want to go "hmmmmmmmmm", doesn't it?

Not saying the events are connected but I'm not saying they aren't. :evilgrin:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 01:14 PM
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22. Monkey supporters MAY fly out of my ass, as well.
And if they do, _I_ will provide a link!

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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:04 PM
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32. if ANYTHING flies out of your ass, we DEMAND a link!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:12 PM
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35. Hmmm...maybe "anything" wasn't the best word choice there?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:14 PM
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36. You're right, but let the record show
that I was FOR a link to anything flying out of your ass BEFORE I was against it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:21 PM
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40. flip flopper!!...lol...
how could you be for it before you were against it???

as for anything flying out of asses..i demand a link as well!!

fly
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:23 PM
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42. Hey, we've got to fight whatever flies out of his ass over there
so we don't have to fight it over here.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:06 PM
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33. You hacked it.
:hi:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:16 PM
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38. OR A FREEPER WHO WANTS IT TO LOOK THIS WAY?? OR ROVE??
Rove's first big splash: Bugging his own campaign headquarters...

Rove soldiered on in obscurity until 1986, when he was working on the second campaign of Bill Clements, a Republican trying to recapture the governor's office after losing it to Democrat Mark White. Rove made news by going public with a complaint that an electronic bugging device had been found in his office--shortly before a scheduled televised debate between the two candidates. "We never took it seriously, because we knew nobody in our shop had anything to do with it," says Dwayne Hollman, who worked for White at the time. Hollman said it was assumed that it was a publicity stunt. "It was investigated by the FBI," Hollman said, "and nothing ever came of it."

Yet some wonder what "came of" Rove's meeting with FBI agent Greg Rampton, who conducted that investigation. Local authorities who looked into the bugging seem to agree with Hollman's assessment. "We were the first on the scene and concluded that Rove had hired a company to debug his office, and that the same company had planted the bug," says a source involved in the Travis County DA office's investigation. But the media reported that Rampton had determined there was nothing to pursue.

Two years later, Rampton began an investigation that involved his setting up shop in the offices of Garry Mauro, the state land commissioner and later the loser in the 1998 gubernatorial race won by George W. Bush. Mauro said Rampton informed him that a former Land Commission employee was involved in an appraisals scheme that involved the commission. "I told my general counsel to tell to come on in," Mauro said. Rampton accepted the invitation. "On the day of the Democratic state convention, I got a subpoena for every document you could possibly imagine," Mauro said.

...


http://www.thenation.com/doc/20010305/dubose


AND JUST WHERE WAS ALL THE MEDIA WHEN THE DEMS HAD THE PHONES JAMMED IN A RPESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN NH??????????

AND WHERE WAS THE MEDIA ATTENTION WHEN THAT SAME GUY WAS TRIED AND CONVICTED AND SAID HE WAS TOLD TO DO THIS BY SOMEONE HIGH UP IN THE WH??????????

YEAH I THOUGHT SO..JUST SLIPPED THEIR MINDS RIGHT??

fly
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:16 PM
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37. Kris Jansing??? Sounds like a Cobert fake name.
Alpha Centauri 7: Lady Noctourne. A Tech Jansen Adventure.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:23 PM
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41. where is AGENT MIKE when we need him???????? n/t
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