Tweety just called us all the Pajamakadeens (sp?) that all

[Democrat 4 Ever]

bloggers just need to get out of their parents basement and join the "grown-ups." He was discussing the Lamont/Liebermann election. Said Lamont ran a perfect campaign but if Lamont wins it will be because of bloggers. Used several terms that was a put down to the ability of bloggers to affect change. He couldn't have been more dismissive if he had called us limp-wrist, clueless morons. Said that if Joe won tonight it would be proof that the bloggers have no power, just make a lot of noise. Contessa compliment Tweety on his use of the Pajamakadeen term - just thought that was precious beyond compare and wants to use it. Tweety said he couldn't take credit then did take credit for the term. Tweety just has so much need for attention.

Tweety is scared to death that he will be deemed as unnecessary if the bloggers usurp his power and is tap dancing so fast his feet are just a blur.

[WilliamPitt]

1. It was "Pajamaheddin"

A play on "Mujeheddin," i.e. the Afghan fighters that became the Taliban.

His point was that bloggers and online activists can't win an election until they step away from the keyboards, get dressed, and go out to vote.

The phrase was crass, but I agree entirely with the sentiment.

[kiki]

5. So, does he mean...

..that bloggers were trained and funded by the CIA, and are now being used by the Bush administration as an eternal Orwellian enemy?

Thanks Chris, you fucking simpleton! Ya learn something new every day...

[WilliamPitt]

7. No

He was actually batting down the nonsense argument, thrown out hourly by the media, that "bloggers" were going to decide the CT primary. He used the phrase to disdain bloggers and activists who only operate online. Like I said, it was a crass line, but he isn't wrong. 1) The bloggers aren't going to decide this thing in CT, and 2) Online activists need to go out and vote.

[senseandsensibility]

11. You really don't think that comparing bloggers to terrorists is

over the top? Even so, his "point" abouat bloggers voting seems to be a bit of a strawman, and an excuse to use his cute, insulting phrase. Does anyone here really think the bloggers won't vote?

[WilliamPitt]

13. It is totally over the top

I used the word "crass," which is about the same.

90% of the bloggers who are on this race don't live in CT, so no, they won't vote.

[senseandsensibility]

17. Well, then, it's also a strawman to urge them

to vote, or to suggest that they're too lazy to vote, or whatever. Just sayin.

[jsamuel]

15. I have seen no evidence to suggest that bloggers don't vote.

I partially agree with the point of what your saying, but I don't see that it is not already happening.

Also, calling us kids is ridiculous, I am a minority here as a joung'n. Most people here are much older. Also, comparing us to terrorists is a nice subtext for the other side.

[jsamuel]

18. here is some evidence on the age thing (64% over the age of 40)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4739414

84% are over 30

[WilliamPitt]

19. "bloggers don't vote"

I'm sure they all vote.

But 90% of the bloggers working this race aren't in CT. So, no, they aren't voting today.

[jsamuel]

20. yes nt

[warrens]

21. Does he seriously think online activists don't vote?

That's just silly.

[hfojvt]

22. don't we vote and then some?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5451360

[Skidmore]

6. I'd love to be able to vote in that election.

I don't blog and I understand what he is saying. I would venture to say that those groups are the most likely to vote. Activists vote.

I do believe he needs to be called on this labelling though. It certainly intends to denigrate citizens who are involved in the democratic process as radical zealots. I don't see this as a harmless slip.

[WilliamPitt]

8. It wasn't

He was being funny at the expense of others.

[Cha]

28. tweety and newt should get

together..newt gingrich called the Lamont voters, "Insurgents" the other day.

Fucking Fascists.

[Nikki Stone 1]

2. Actually, the bloggers need to get out and VOTE!

And stop watching Tweety. Studies show that constant viewing of a guy with no dick leads to stomach upset. :)

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. How that man ever worked for Carter is a mystery to me. n/t

[WilliamPitt]

4. He was 30 years younger

and no one knew his name.

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Ah, yes. The make your name by trashing Liberals model.

Sort of makes you wonder if he was a mole for the Cons.

[WilliamPitt]

10. He wasn't

I'm sure he believed in what he was doing, and I'm pretty sure he votes Democratic most of the time...but he also gets paid through the nose, and if he didn't lick liberals in the balls, he wouldn't get anyone from the majority GOP to come on his show.

$$$.

[Norquist Nemesis]

23. Last night, he pretty much said he votes Republican.

He was making the comment that (paraphrase) "it's all red-state/blue-state and your vote doesn't really matter because of gerrymandering. If I go into Maryland and vote, my vote doesn't count because that's a blue state. But if you're in say, (red-state I can't remember), they usually vote Republican."

But I agree with you about kicking Liberals (did you mean "lick"? :shrug:)

[flyarm]

31. his brother is a repuke in PA..tweety is no dem! period! whore yes..n/t

[bigtree]

12. I love it when he talks down to us

he's such an everyday American with his six-figure salary and his elitist friends. Great perspective he has with his head up the administration shill's asses.

[Crankie Avalon]

14. Those "pajamahadeens" are probably the only people who watch his show...

...I mean, do "mainstream," ordinary people watch Chris Matthews? He could stick his head out the window and yell and be heard by more people. A little funny a guy like that trying to ridicule anyone else as "irrelevant."

[mmonk]

16. If you oppose their war in Iraq as "the war on terra"

then they paint you as something akin to a terrorist. Hence the "adeen" ending. Typical of the psyops propaganda still rampant in this new America.

[UTUSN]

24. But-but, doesn't Tweety claim to be AGAINST the Iraq Attack??/ n/t

[Cha]

25. I'll just drag my

pajamass post over from the other thread..

" Shhh! Don't tell
tweety that the Bloggers actually are real people and they vote And they are Activists On The Ground..not just Underground!

Eat shit tweety, you dumb republiCON..I know that's redundant."

[devilgrrl]

26. Yeah, the grown-up's are doing a heck of a job aren't they?

And people wonder why I was such an unruly child.

[Oak2004]

27. Ummm...

I'm a few days short of 49 years old. It's been a long time since I've been in my parent's basement.

What about the "internet is a vehicle used by people (and, particularly, progressives) of all ages" do they not get?

[flyarm]

32. thank you and i am proud of being 54...

and have raised a wonderful son who works on wall street ..got his college degree in 4 years from a major university and was on deans list his entire 4 years and was an athelete to boot..and was drafted in his sport and was the first athelete in 14 years to graduate in 4 years from his university..and he was also made a member of 3 of the most prestigious Honor societies in the nation!

i am a retired 33 yr flight crew of one of the airlines involved in 9/11

tweety..i don't have time to even see the basement ..i hire people to clean it out once a year whether it needs it or not!

fly

[Cha]

33. I'm a few days

short of the big "62"..happy birthday, Leo!

[Hubert Flottz]

29. The one and only good thing about Tweety...

You can shut him up by pushing this little button on the remote.

He knows that if the pubbies lose he will be watched even less than he is now.

The Shrill Shill...Drooling Bonzo...The only time I tune in to MSNBC is when KO is on. If Keith wasn't there I'd program it out of my remote.

[flyarm]

30. first we are called insurgents, then we have started a civil war...now

now we are pajamahadden??

maybe tweety needs a history lesson..as in the first bush supported the mujahedden??

and then this little lord pissy pants supported the mujahedden in IRAQ!

now we have been basically called terrorists...by the msm

how long do we put up with this??

i don't give a damn what the bullshit rhetoric is..this is dispicable!!

well tweety, i not only vote, i have spent my life as a poll worker, and a poll watcher..

i have gone to senior homes to help them get the chance to vote and i have listened to their problems as kindly as i could..and listen to their woes...

i have run for election, and won to be a democratic delegate for my state and county

i belong to the oldest democratic womens club in the nation and i helped put on the 65th anniversary party last fall..

i go out and do public speaking for the democratic party

i housed the Kerry field rep in my home for 7 months ..and we ran one of the biggest Kerry headquarters in my state..and when his mother was dying i ran it all for him..which meant being at the wherehouse 20 hours a day..and overseeing hundreds of volunteers..

i co-ordinated all the volunteer security for the Kerry/Edwards rallys of which my county had 15 ..and i worked directly with the secret service..and with usually less than 24 hours notice i would be up all night getting volunteers together and getting lists and clearences for and from the secret service.

i am an active member of the DEC

i live in two states so i have helped get a democratic club going in my other state

in a very republican area..and we started last year with 9 members and in 4 months had almost 300 members..and did a fundraiser and collected almost $5000.00 for our local candidates
AND WE ALL WORKED DILIGENTLY TO GET OUR GOVERNOR ELECTED!

i am now a first response of news getting to all of my second states candidates ..up to date and minute of news going on in the state and nation..SO THEY ARE ALWAYS PREPARED WITH THE CURRENT NEWS

in my voting state i have worked with candidates in their public speaking ..to help them be clear with their messages.i have poll watched ( i am a poll watcher at large)( designated by them )for numerous of our candidates in my county and state. i have done fund raisers for many candidates!

i have canvassed and worked the streets to gotv..in fact i helped so many that came from out of state..when i went to Corzines inagural ball..half the people there knew me because they had all come to fla to canvass ..

i helped work on Corzines election and the gotv ..even though i could not vote in NJ..

and Corzine knew me well..i did so much work..

i have worked diligently for voting machine reform in fla , i have mentored people to get our democracy back and have our votes count..unlike they do today, under those who tweety whores himself!

so ya know what tweety..i would put my work for democracy up to yours, any fucking day!

and i would stand tall with bloggers and those who work daily to protect our democracy from the fucking tweetys of this day..i worked daily with people who came from all over this nation to help us with the 2004 election in my state of fla..young and old they came to try to protect democracy..and i will never forget one lady who was 86 yrs old who came to try to protect our republic and our democracy..she worked stuffing envelopes..from Vermont with her daughter..because she cared about her nation!

unlike fucking tweety!

what a disgrace that this man is called anything but a fucking whore!

fucking tweety is a whore in the worst way!..and i hope one day when his time comes..hell will have nothing but fury for him!

fly ..

who is damn proud to know all the wonderful people online willing to fight for their country!and democracy

...ahhh and tweety...i do not sit in my pajamas..but dress elegantly the majority of time when i blog!

fuck you tweety!

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Um! This Doesn't Make Any Sense At All

Weren't the mujahadeen the "good guys" in Afghanistan against the "evil empire"?

Didn't we credit the mujahadeen for their glorious fight and purge of the Soviet invasion?

So, wouldn't pajamahadeen, be a compliment?

Geez, Matthews can't even get his insults right!
The Professor

[flyarm]

35. i would say lord pissy pants has done more damage

and has helped terrorists more than anyone..

mods this link no longer works ..so i am posting in full..

remove if you must.,..from my files..
from 8/10 2004

THE DAILY MIS-LEAD

< http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49794 >


BUSH LEAK ALLOWED TERRORISTS TO ESCAPE

President Bush has promised his administration is "doing everything we can" to fight the War on Terror.<1> He has also said, "I've constantly expressed my displeasure with leaks"<2> and said, "whether they happened in the White House or happened in the administration or happened on Capitol Hill can be very damaging."<3> But according to a new report, the White House's leak of secret information for its own political gain has undermined the War on Terror because it allowed key al Qaeda suspects to escape.

According to government and security officials, the disclosure by the White House "of the arrest of an al Qaeda computer expert allowed several wanted suspects from Osama bin Laden's terror network to escape." Specifically, the White House told the media it had apprehended Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, a 25-year-old Pakistani computer engineer who the administration said was a terrorist.<4> But according to MSNBC, Khan was a key intelligence source for U.S. and Pakistani authorities and "had been actively cooperating with intelligence agents to help catch al-Qaida operatives."<5> In other words, the White House blew the cover of a U.S. intelligence mole in order to publicly justify raising the terror alert level one week after the Democratic National Convention. In the process, it allowed terrorists who threaten America to evade capture.

If there was any doubt about who leaked Khan's name and compromised U.S. national security, those were put to rest this weekend. On CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" on Sunday, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice admitted it was the Bush administration that leaked Khan's name.<6>

Sources:
1. "President's Remarks at Marquette, Michigan Rally," The White House, 07/13/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49795.
2. "President Discusses National, Economic Security in Cabinet Meeting," The White House, 10/7/03, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49796.
3. "President Holds Press Conference," The White House, 10/28/03, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49797.
4. "Leak allowed al-Qaeda suspects to escape," USA Today, 8/10/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49798.
5. "Pakistan: U.S. Blew Undercover Operation," Truthout, 8/6/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49799.
6. "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer," CNN, 08/08/04, http://daily.misleader.org/ctt.asp?u=2042921&l=49800.

[elehhhhna]

36. Duh. He feels threatened... as the world of news is leaving his station.

[flyarm]

37. education to tweety of mujahadeen..it's the pissy pants family legacy!

maybe tweety needs to educate himself on the Mujahadeen!!

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/criminalsinaction29jun04.shtml

snip:

Robert "Bud" McFarlane went on to form his own consulting firm, and joined the board of American Equity Investors (AEI), founded by Prescott Bush. AEI's board of directors reads like a Who's Who of the spook world, including former CIA officials George Clairmont and Howard Hebert, and CIA lawyer Mitch Rogovin, who was George Bush's legal counsel when he was Director of the Agency.<1154>
AEI invested in a Tulsa, Oklahoma company: Hawkins Oil and Gas, from 1988 to 1991. McFarlane was a "consultant" for Hawkins and several other companies on the Ech power project in Pakistan, which required frequent trips to that country.<1155> This was during the tail end of the largest covert operation the U.S. ever conducted — the arming of the Mujahadeen, who trained in Pakistan. McFarlane sat on the "208 Committee," who's job it was to procure weapons for the Mujahadeen, and arms contracts for the Pakistani government.

snip:
BCCI also served as a conduit for the Iran-Contra operation, largely through Gaith Pharon, former head of Saudi Intelligence, who operated out of Islamabad, Pakistan. The Saudis played a major role in funding the Mujahadeen and the Contras.

then there is this:

http://www.communitycurrency.org/BushCrimeFamily.html

The Bush Crime Family:
Four Generations of Wall Street War-Making and War-Profiteering
August, 2004
By Dr. Eric Karlstrom


snip:

4) As VP and therefore Head of the National Security Council’s Groups on Crisis Management, Drug Addiction, and Terrorism, Bush directed the Iran-Contra drug scandal, in which the secret government (comprised of ex-CIA and military intelligence operatives and businessmen) diverted profits from illegal arms sales to Iran to illegally fund the revolutionary Contras of Nicaragua and the Mujahadeen of Afghanistan. Under CIA protection, these covert operators flew vast quantities of cocaine and heroin into the poor neighborhoods of America, again using drug profits to fund the illegal covert war in Nicaragua, etc.

5) Under Bush’s watch, the CIA spent over $3 billion dollars fomenting holy war (“Jihad”) and training and funding the Mujahadeen terorists (including Osama bin Laden), their networks, and training camps in Afghanistan. Thus, the Taliban, the Mujahadeen, and Osama bin Laden were established as CIA assets and remain so to this day. Not coincidentally, under CIA supervision during the 80’s, Afghanistan became the number one heroin producer and exporter in the world. In 2000, the Taliban government banned the production of poppies (heroin). However, after the recent invasion of Iraq and installation of an American puppet government, Afghanistan is again the number heroin producer in the world.

[Mr_Spock]

38. lol - he's just jealous

You don't call people names unless you have some fear of their power.