Holy Crap, On Holy Joe !!! - Malloy Just Read This On The Air, You Should

[WillyT]

read it too!!!

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The Democratic voters of Connecticut –apparently about to reject Senator Joe Lieberman in Tuesday’s primary—are poised to send the national Democratic Party a message. And the media are poised to help the Democrats, and the nation as a whole, to misinterpret it.

It’s all about the war in Iraq, the media will tell us.

But this over-simplification obscures the heart of the matter: that citizens are not only opposing the war but are struggling for a way to deal with America’s present deeper crisis.

A former advisor to Lieberman, quoted in a recent article in The New Republic, explains why rank-and-file Democrats are furious with Lieberman but not with his fellow war-supporter, Senator Biden: “Here’s somebody who voted for the war, continues to say that we should be there, but is absolutely critical of Bush and how he handled it. And so, as a result, he gets a pass. It’s how Lieberman talks about the war that people can’t stand. He comes across as not necessarily being pro-war but being pro-Bush.”

So it’s not ultimately about the war, and we must not allow ourselves or the public to be otherwise persuaded. It’s about this particular president and all the damage his regime is inflicting on America. It’s Lieberman’s being a help and a support for the Bush presidency that’s given rise to this grassroots rage against him.

By rejecting Lieberman, Connecticut’s grassroots Democrats are seeking to send a message to their party about how appalled they are at this Bush presidency, and thus also at any Democrat who does not understand how profound a threat this regime is to all they hold dear.

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More: http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=279

Malloy couldn't find a thing to disagree with in this essay, neither can I!

Please read.

[Swamp Rat]

1. k&r

[Phredicles]

4. The moral of the story seems to be that the MSM can admit

that the war in Iraq might not be so great, but not the Cretin-in-Chief who got us there.

[Swamp Rat]

8. He does not give a fuck what happens to the rest of the world

Certainly not for us in New Orleans.

[Skittles]

23. YOU NAIL IT, PHREDICLES

I'm sick of it, I want our reps to say it: BUSH HAS BEEN DISASTER FOR AMERICA

[Guaranteed]

2. Lieberman is a Bush supporter. End of story. nt

[bridgit]

3. yup, k&r'd...

[AnnieBW]

5. Who Says We're Not Furious At Biden?

Personally, I'm furious with him for voting for that bullshit bankruptcy law change! But Biden isn't running for re-election this year, is he?

[Hubert Flottz]

35. Biden's slapdown will come in 2008 if he runs for president.

He will get about as many votes as JoHo got in 2004.

[DinahMoeHum]

39. Same thing with Hillary.

n/t

[napi21]

6. I agree 100%! I've been bit*hing all along that the media has it all

WRONG! It's NOT only about his stance on Iraq, it's his loving of Shrub!!!!

[robinlynne]

7. right on. right on.

[hootinholler]

9. Well, I for one am still pretty pissed at Biden!

The bankruptcy bill, the Patriot Act, and on and on.

-Hoot

[krkaufman]

14. Yes, Biden is no prize. But my fingers and toes are dedicated to ...

... the outing of Joe, for at least 24 hours mo'.

[Aviation Pro]

10. This election is and always will be about Bush...

...this is about the 2000 election. It is about putting an unqualified, incompetent, moronic imbecile in the White House. It's a referendum on the criminal cabal that props up this moron. It's a judgement on the past five years of immoral behavior in the guise of governing. It's a rebuke to the traitorous Ralph Nader and his assertion that there was no difference between the idiot and President Gore (Really Ralph? Do you think that the duly elected President Gore would have allowed 911 to happen?). Finally, this will be the direct shot to the spar of the black ship Cheney and his quest for world domination because when John Conyers gets subpoena power he will exercise it liberally and with great vengence.

This is what this election is all about.

[wanpete]

11. AMEN! A big K & R!

We've got to stop letting the media and others (rethugs) frame and define our messages. This is very true and should be repeated by every progressive talking head that hits the airwaves (radio or tv).

[Old and In the Way]

12. If Lieberman goes down, lots of Democrats, including Biden, are going

to have to consider the ramifications of this event. We don't want 'principled' leadership, if those principles are supporting anything Republican today.

[Hubert Flottz]

37. The truth is the democratic party will probably unify if Joe loses.

And that scares the shit out of the GOP and their enablers. The message is...straighten up and fly right or get out. I think the majority of the voting aged Americans, despise Bush and are sick of these go along to get along democrats in Washington.

I Wonder Who's Kissing the cows

You have loved lots of GOPers in the sweet long-ago

And each has meant duckets to you

You have vowed your affection to each pub in turn

And have sworn to them all you'd be true

You have kissed 'neath the moon while the world seemed in tune,

Then you've left George to hunt a new game.

Does it ever occur to you later my boy, that Dub's prob'ly doing the same?



If you want to feel wretched and lonely and blue,

Just imagine the GOPer you love best

In the arms of some fellow hack stealing a kiss

From the lips that you once fondly pressed

But the world moves apace and your loves of today

Flit away with a smile and a tear,

So you can't never tell who's kissing Bush now

Or who's ass you'll be kissing next year.



I wonder who's kissing Bush now, I wonder who's hugging his cows,

I wonder who's looking into his eyes, breathing sighs, telling lies.

I wonder who's buying the wine on the ranch where he's sloping his swine.

I wonder if shrub ever tells Jeff of me, I wonder who's kissing his cows.

[Cha]

40. "Sloping his Swine"! :)

There's a moral in there somewhere..stand on your Democratic Principles and you don't havta to worry about who's kissing whom.

And the Nation hates bush in spite of the presstitutes who tried every trick to keep his gross incompetency under wraps.

[tomreedtoon]

13. Could this be a (I hate this phrase) "paradigm shift"?

Could it be that a lot of Democratic candidates and elected officials, who have been apathetic and incompetent at their jobs, be thrown out on their cash-stuffed behinds?

Probably not, but I can dream...

[FighttheFuture]

41. I think it's a start, but not enough pain for Amuricans... yet...

look to 2008 for another stolen $election. Those who have, and control, power are not going to roll over and give it up so easily. They will either try to find a way to glom onto this new proressive movement and subvert it to their ends (what do you think all that "Net Neutraility" is about--control the messenger before its too late), or failing that, steal the election outright. Then look for bloody times in 2012-2018.

That is if we don't drop a nuke in the mideast before then, then all bets are off!

[AzDar]

15. Message to ALL members of Congress: Stop enabling this criminal

cabal, or YOU, TOO, may face the wrath of your constituents!
GO LAMONT!!

[milkyway]

16. Traitor Joe rolls over like a puppy as Bush destroys America.

As the U.S. sinks into its own style of fascism, Lieberman is only critical of Dems who speak against it.

"But Joe Lieberman's such a nice guy!" No, he's an asshole.

[Superman Returns]

17. I agree

lets be honest. A lot of our favorite Democrats have had it BOTH ways on the war and have never really answered for it. But it was Lieberman's arrogance that did him in. How many times has he went on Fox and mocked our party's leadership and made it look that the Democrats were weak on defense. How many times during the 2004 campaign did he portray himself as the only Democrat with credibility on defense. He went out of his way to make himself look like one of the few "pro-defense" Democrats, inferring that Democrats by default are the opposite and therefore couldn't be trusted with American security. How many times did O'Reilly and Hannity use Lieberman as an example of how Democrats "should be" only to find the Senator smiling away. Lieberman was helping the enemy. Biden, Clinton, Bayh may have all been similiar in Lieberman's thought process on the war but at the end of the day, they never lent their name to discrediting their own party in favor of making themlseves look good. They also stood for their party and battled Republicans on the after-math of the war and the administratin failures. The fact that Lieberman portrays himself as one of the few pro-defense Democrats insults his fellow party members no matter what his stances are. The fact that he uses the Bush double talk of 9/11 and Islamic extremists to justify the Iraq adventure shows that he uses the GOP talking points, something he should instead be fighting. It undermines everything our party stands for. You can be moderate, centrist, pro-life, pro-guns, more hawkish on the war but don't do it in a way that you portray your view with arrogance and smug and undermining your core base in the process. What Lieberman does irks me and it needs to be punished. Its not the war position but its the battle to take back the atmosphere and language in which a candidate can label himself pro-defense, hide in the flag, and say 9/11 a couple of times to justify the biggest military blunder in American history. Its the atmosphere and and language that allows the Democrats to be labeled as soft on defense and far-left and unelectable. This is the battle against Fox, the elite pundits, the elite establishement, and the Republican sponsored arrogance that Lieberman seems so willing to be apart of.

[Stardust]

20. Very, very well put! //

[othermeans]

22. I heard Hannity say to Lieberman that he would help him stage a

giant fundraiser and Lieberman said that would be great and he would welcome him to Ct. How about a Crazy Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman ticket for the Republicans?

[RebelOne]

27. Yes, I heard that also.

Hannity has been sucking up to Lieberman for a long time.

[Canuckistanian]

31. Excellent post

Sums it up quite nicely. It's too bad this point of view will never be shown on any major media, since it's partly a battle aginst THEM.

[sendero]

36. Well said..

.. and welcome to DU! :)

[sunnystarr]

45. Amen //

[proud patriot]

18. k and r

Hi WillyT

[glitch]

19. Vichy Dems can't get respect. What's amazing is they wonder why, nt

[Major Hogwash]

25. Vichy Dems!? Oooh, that is really cruel, and true.

These guys would have stepped out of Hitler's way on his march to Paris and then gave speeches about how quick he won!!

No shit!

I like that phrase!

[glitch]

33. I didn't make it up, but it is good isn't it? nt

[Senator]

21. The Root is Even Deeper

The root of it remains the Stolen Election. And the failure of Dem "leaders" to stand against it that Jan. 6th, 2001.

That was the day the contract known as the US Constitution was put into breach.

That is the reality that dare not be spoken among the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy.

It continues to eat its way through our social and political fabric like an acid. Most visibly in the horrors of this never-elected, never-legitimate regime. But also in what the Euphemedia glibly labels as the "divided nation," which is less along Dem/Rep lines as it is between those who can handle reality and those who prefer the delusion of neofascism.

Those who can handle reality are the ones who know Impeachment and War Crime prosecutions are necessary to Redeem Our National Soul.

Lieberman is but the poster boy for the deluded Dem members of the Analstocracy. He is also merely the low hanging fruit -- a target of opportunity. The others have not been given a pass (No, not even Gore and Kerry). Their acts of spinelessness and complicity are not being forgotten.

No, this is not an "anti-war movement." (That's just the best sign to be carrying into this battle.)

This is what not getting over it looks like. Get used to it. It's never going away.

---
www.january6th.org

[The Count]

28. And his posturing on Clinton impeachment ain't forgotten either

I remember I almost decided to stay home in November 2000 when Holly Joe started preaching during the campaign - that "one cannot have any morals unless they are predicated on a religion"
Then I eventually got over it and Holly Joe made Cheney look good in debate and then waved through the fraudulent military ballots.
For the full historical perspective.

[Tansy_Gold]

29. Not to mention his "hedging" both in 2000 and this year

on keeping his seat no matter what -- running as VP and for his senate seat in 2000, then this vile "I'm more important than the party, more important than the voters" attitude of running as an indie if he loses the primary.

Joe Lieberman is no Zell Miller. Ideologically Lieberman is still much more of a Democrat than zany Zell ever was. But politically -- a kind of "I've got mine, the rest of you can go scratch" in 2000 -- he's a right winger, a lone wolf (with apologies to all wolves, lone or otherwise), a "rugged individualist." And while we watch the GOP tear itself to pieces as the "moderates" recoil from the excesses of the neo-cons, the most important thing we on the left, even if it's the barely left of center, ought to be doing is sticking together. Lieberman has no sense of party solidarity.

And I think that is another part of what's pissed so many people off about him. Certainly it has me.

Tansy Gold, who would rather be pissed off than pissed on.

[WHAT]

48. Hear! Hear!...

reflective of my attitude and very well said!

[opihimoimoi]

24. K&R...Very well said, agree 10000%

"kick"

:kick:

[donheld]

26. Great post

I just hope everybody sees this.

[Joe Fields]

30. By supporting this war, Lieberman also tacitly supports....

The destruction of our environment.

The dismantling of environmental laws.

The loss of rights and freedoms Americans had, prior to 9/11.

The squandering of a budget surplus, and the bankrupting of our treasury.

The inability to fund numerous mandated programs.

The systematic dismantling of numerous social programs.

Our total lack of ability to fund mandates that would secure our rails, airports, chemical facilities, nuclear plants, etc...

The total loss of respect our country once enjoyed in most regions of the world.

These are just a few things off the top of my head. If I thought about it for awhile, the list could go on forever.


These are a few of the reasons why Lieberman should become a retired politician.

[Vidar]

32. It's about one traitor kissing up to another traitor.

[LSK]

34. uhh, Biden isnt running for anything

What a stupid article.

[NastyDiaper]

44. Thought he was one of the first to announce 08 prez?

[distantearlywarning]

38. I agree with this interpretation.

It's not about the war. It's about the perception that Lieberman has his lips firmly pressed to the collective ass of the GOP.

[emmadoggy]

47. ROFL!! Perfectly put!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[KurtNYC]

42. Excellent:"Lamont is the Anti-Bush Candidate"

That is what we need to get the MSM to say.

The Lamont campaign wasn't giving out buttons that said "Withdraw from Iraq" etc.

They gave out buttons of Lieb kissing Bush -- THAT is what this race has been about, first and formost.

[NastyDiaper]

43. He's annoyed that he has to be re-elected.

Like *, it's that kind of entitlement attitude that we are finished with.

Incumbents may be triangulating issues, but what they are really thinking about is how solid an incumbency is.

The ice breaks.

[BrightKnight]

46. washing the pill down

I don't care if the DNC has to water the message down a bit to get the public to swallow the pill. The average fool on the street is not going to entirely get or support what most people here do.

I hope that Lieberman loses. If this is taken as a mandate to avoid compromise and move hard left the party will loose. The repugs will remain in power and an excellent opportunity will have been lost.

The party needs core values but it also needs to appeal to the masses. The key to winning is doing both well.