Howard Fineman thinks the Dems are in a civil war

[CatWoman]

agree or disagree?

two words: Lieberman and McKinney.

Look at the fights that take place in those featuring those two.

[Bluebear]

1. Tell Fineman we don't march in goosestep formation in our party

Truth be demand!!!!!11

[Patsy Stone]

2. I think they want us to think we are

I think we can all agree that we need to win in 2006. There's time to figure out the differences before 2008.

Remain calm. All is well. Nothing to see here. Move along.

[CatWoman]

3. Dah-ling

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

9. Sweetie!

:hi:

[flyarm]

4. ohhh yes we have a civil war here but noooooooooo civil

war in Iraq..such utter bullshit!

first newt calls us insurgents, and now we are in civil war..seems the dems on the capitol don't get it..they are framing the issues again...

and the dems sit back quietly

maybe we need to get "our collective selves " togther and start removing more than just joementum!

fly

[Clark2008]

11. I noticed that.

The Dems - who are participating in elections and reasonable debate - are in a "civil war..." but those Iraqi's - who are blowing each other up - Nope... they're not in a Civil War.

:eyes:

[blm]

5. Fineman never noticed Ron Paul and Walter Jones turned on BushInc.

long before these primary races. Otr that Hagel and Warner are not down with the civil war in Iraq and know the IWR does not COVER civil war.

Fineman sees what he wants to see in service to his BushInc masters.

[flpoljunkie]

6. 89% of Dems disapprove of the way Bush is handling war in Iraq. I'd say

any "civil war" is between the Democratic party establishment in DC (their politicians, lobbyists, analysts, and thinktankers) and the mainstream of the Democratic party.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

CBS News/New York Times Poll. July 21-25, 2006. N=1,127 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults). RV = registered voters

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?"

Approve Disapprove Unsure

ALL adults 32% 62% 6%
Republicans 64 33 3
Democrats 7 89 4
Independents 29 63 8

[eviltwin2525]

7. C'mon, Howard....haven't you ever

opened the fridge and seen something you "think" used to be a tuna sandwich? And next to it a yogurt with a expiration date <Y2K? We're just holding our noses and running to the can by the curb before something drips on us.

[Cleita]

8. I think the country is in a civil war, not necessarily Dems but

those who have crossed over to the dark side could be considered turncoats.

Of course, I’m not talking about a shoot ‘em up civil war but one of ideas. Our nation has become ideologically divided as much as it was between North and South during the American Civil War. Trying to get inside the head of a right winger these days is a scary place. It’s a place that condones preemptive war and invasions, torture, wholesale thievery made legal, religion as a means to destroy any ideas opposing those of the hard right, enslavement of aliens especially women in sweatshops and brothels on American territories without any pesky laws to protect them. Government has become a sport where winning is the only thing that matters and how you win is not based on any rules or laws but by any means that justifies the ends.

There seems to be this football or baseball game mentality among the Republican ideologues in mapping out how they will win. They use a figurative playbook just like the ones the coaches use. But in their playbook if they can’t win fairly, then they must do whatever it takes to win. In the sports world it would probably take the form of putting players on steroids, or making sure the opposition’s players are caught in scandals that get them suspended or fired from the team. If they can’t weaken the opposing team with these methods then maybe a handy accident, an airplane crash or a suicide will do the trick. Just get them out of the way. If our government were a league of opposing teams this would be the equivalent of what the right wing coaches would do to win. Remember that winning is the only thing that counts in their sick minds.

It doesn’t seem to be a coincidence that our President comes from a sports background; that his Secretary of State was asked to be a NFL commissioner. As for Lieberman, he has become our Quisling, I believe.

[WI_DEM]

10. Howie is so far up Bush's ass it's sickening

Of course he feels the Democrats are in civil war--but not the GOP, what about Rhode Island and the primary there? There is no room for moderates in the GOP, but do the "pundits" ever write about that? No all they care about is the clashes within the Democratic party.

[bigtree]

12. nah

too busy trying to unseat republican Bushies

[patdem]

13. Fineman could not find a civil war with both hands (see Iraq)

What a joke of a person..a neo con who is 'worried' about the Democrats...give me a fvcking break!

[Generator]

14. God I hope so

Being on this board has made me less of a pacifist in everyway. Not pro-war but pro-kick out the fucking traitors and thieves and the risk of the world ending IF I don't vote for the precious one with the D behind their name. What the fuck have the Democrats done for me in the last five years? I'm still waiting on that list. The Democrats have made me feel bile come into my throat at the thought of voting. At the thought of those lines in Ohio, at the thought of all that could be prevented instead of Kerry saying as he did last week, "Oh if I was president this wouldn't be happening." Should have thought of that on November 5th-a day I will always remember.

[creeksneakers2]

15. Its two primaries!

How can two lousy primaries be a war?