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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:31 PM
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If Joe-mentum actually wins the primary, will he change his stances?
A sincere question.

Recently he's been tacking leftward: personally I think it's out of desperation. But if he wins, will he keep doing so? Will he wake up and smell the coffee - that he'd been given a rare second lease on life as a Dem, and he damn well better act the part from here on out?

Or am I just wishfully thinking?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:33 PM
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1. you are thinking wishfully. If Holy Joe can steal his primary slot
he will feel justified in french kissing aWoL.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:34 PM
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2. No Way.
He would never sacrifice the moderates he gained. Though he might've been at risk in the primary, he very well could win as an independent. If he wins the primary, that'll convince him even more that standing behind his convictions was the right thing to do.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:34 PM
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3. Nah.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:34 PM
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4. Fuck no
He really thinks that kissing nazi butt is the way to go. They had a term for that in the camps...and its practitioners were generally found stuffed into a toilet, head down.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:35 PM
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5. Yes, yes he will.
He will proceed farther up George W. Bush's rectum and self-immolate in a Zell Millerish blaze of glory.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:36 PM
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6. He'll do what Bush did after 2004 election
Use his "mandate" to do more stupid things, like privatize Social Security.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:38 PM
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7. NOPE! That's the same as a woman marying a guy and she thinks she
can change his bad side after the wedding! IT NEVER WORKS! Joe won't either!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:39 PM
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8. Not a chance. He'll harden and become more conservative
because he'll believe people voted for the old Joe they knew and loved.

I am making no bets on tomorrow's outcome. People tend to get very conservative when it comes time to punch that button, mark that ballot, pull that lever, and figure they can live with the devil they know better than risking one they don't.

I sincerely hope Lamont wins. The party desperately needs the message his win will send.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:11 PM
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13. No, he'll be worse
He's petty and vengeful--he'll want to stick it to the unruly peasants who DARED to challenge his birthright.
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:39 PM
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9. Depends which way the wind is blowing.
He could be our new weather sock.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:41 PM
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10. He'll be effing insufferable, and he'll think he'd invinceable....
And, NO, he will not change his stances. He'll take his "election" as carte blanche to go on as usual.

TC
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:41 PM
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11. That entails REAL change
and among politicians, supposedly with their nose to the wind and chameleon of principle real change is surprisingly rare. Bad habits and preset values get confirmed by success. You can get corruption and arrogance a lot easier than you can get change for the better(note all Presidents of memory). Those with the most to gain from real human reform, i.e. wrong or corrupt or immoral leaders, can barely sustain a pose of fake reform. Yet the good will of the people gives them a lot of benefit from posing- which confirms them in yet another bad habit, actually badly performed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:41 PM
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12. No, he won't. But others will start thinking about consequences
They will realize what a hell of a fight Joe had to put up, and they will start thinking that it might happen to them.

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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:12 PM
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14. Not winning and will never change his stances. nt
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:13 PM
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15. NO F------ WAY!
He will not change. He will say that he has the support of "the people".
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:15 PM
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16. Of course not. He would claim it's a mandate to "stay the course".
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 05:16 PM by dicksteele
The only CHANGE would be that he won't even
bother paying lip service to Democratic ideals
anymore.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:16 PM
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17. If you listen to him talk, he has!
But that will only be until the election is over.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:16 PM
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18. If anything, Lieberman will take the victory as an affirmation of his stan
Not a rejection of it. Why, in that light, would he then change it?
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