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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:30 PM
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Rep. Randy Kuhl still uses "the media isn't showing the good news in Iraq"

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060804/NEWS01/608040387/1002/NEWS

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"These men and women are working 10 to 12 hours a day under the threat of attack," Kuhl said. "And they told me the worst thing is when they watch TV on their one day off a week and the news doesn't reflect what they're really doing in Iraq. They told me, 'We're liberating a country.' "



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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:33 PM
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1. And they are watching FOX and CNN
Imagine if they were watching BBC or Link TV.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:36 PM
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2. Except for that they tried that on CNN, with the TIME sr. Iraq reporter
He was on this morning. The talking heads brought it up..."I really don't want to sound like I'm setting you up here, but what about the GOOD news? Are you telling me you've been in Iraq for XX weeks and there are no schools to report about, no good things happening?"

The Time reporter said, unequivicolly*, "No."

He said "There are times when you think you come across a story like this. You find a schoolhouse or something that is good news, but it always winds up that when you dig deeper, there is a different story, it isn't good news at all." He didn't elaborate on what he meant by that. They had been fed a false story by someone? The schools aren't really safe? Again, he didn't say.

But, anyway you listen to it, the guy is saying "No, there is no good news to report out of Iraq."

Period.







*I am paraphrasing from memory. It was during today's "American Morning" show.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:53 PM
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13. I saw that, too. Transcript here
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/07/ltm.03.html

HARRIS: We're going to get back to the bad news in a second. But I can't end this without asking you -- and I don't ask this -- I don't ask the question because, you know, I want to set you up for some kind of an attack that journalists don't report the good news in Baghdad -- but if there is any good news to report, you've been there so many times now, what is it?

GHOSH: Well, I've been here for three-and-a-half years, Tony. I've been covering the story since before the war started. And I would desperately love to have good news to report. Unfortunately, for ordinary Iraqis, there's very little of it about. And perhaps the worst thing of it all, human beings will tolerate almost any atrocity as long as there's hope for things getting better, Tony. But what I sense now among Iraqis that I speak to is a loss of hope, a feeling, a sinking feeling that things are about to get worse.

When I ask people here if there are any good news stories, they look at my sadly, and those who have a sense of humor will smile at me. But there are no really good stories to tell here.

HARRIS: Boy. We're not talking -- not a school that's working, a construction project that's working? We can't find anything that says, OK, we can...

GHOSH: Well, if you look -- well, sometimes you think that there is a piece of good news, and you look at it closely and you find that it is not. A couple of months ago, Abu Musab Zarqawi was killed, and we all thought that was a turning point. It turns out it's not.

Al Qaeda is just as deadly as it used to be. You reported a little earlier in your bulletin another suicide bomber. Suicide bombers are back in the daily headlines here. Two months ago a new government was formed in this country, supposedly a national unity golf. And we thought that would be good news, and that would a turning point. Unfortunately, that's not how it's turned out.

The government is bickering. The ministers fight amongst themselves. They are opposed to each other; even though they are now under the same tent, Shiites and Sunni lawmakers are constantly at each other's throat. And they have compromised the ability of this government to crack down on the militias that are the source of most of the trouble here.

HARRIS: More U.S. troops on the ground, from 7,200 to 14,000, will that make a difference?

GHOSH: That will make a difference. The difficulty is, how long will these troops stay here? Every time the U.S. military comes into the city there is a lull, there is a silence, because the bad guys know there's nothing to be gained in standing up and fighting with the U.S. military. That's the shortest route to death.

So typically what happens when the U.S. troops come into town is that the bad guys melt away and they disappear for a few weeks. They go some place elsewhere there aren't so many American soldiers and they start fighting there. And when the soldiers here stand down or go back to the bases, the bad guys turn up again. And then once again, you have a daily drum roll of death, and car bombs, and suicide bombings and kidnappings and so on.

HARRIS: You do a wonderful job of sort of chronicling the news, bad as it is. Bobby Ghosh, senior correspondent for "Time" magazine, an amazing read, the cover story in this week's edition of the magazine.


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:37 PM
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3. Um Randy is lying her(his?) ass off
That is not what the service people are saying.

Its what he/she wishes they were saying so he/she could repeat that.

So is Randy a man or a woman?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:38 PM
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4. man
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:38 PM
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5. The GOP paid someone a lot of money for that talking point
And it's hardly been used. Kuhl's just trying to squeeze a little more mileage out of a broken-down meme.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:40 PM
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6. imagine morale if they let themselves believe the truth
that our government is wasting their lives on a fool's errand.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:41 PM
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7. It's amazing someone that dumb could be elected to....
office. :dunce: They must have shown him a real good time when he was in the 'Green Zone'.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:42 PM
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8. It's amazing that anyone would still trot out that gross propaganda.
Lying to constituents so that they won't turn against this war does not serve the troops. The only way to truly stand by our soldiers is to get them the hell out of there.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:42 PM
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9. "Fighting Dem" opponent Eric Massa calls bullshit. . .
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060804/NEWS01/608040387/1002/NEWS

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...Kuhl's election opponent, Democrat Eric Massa, said he believes Kuhl was given an overly rosy picture of the situation in Iraq and is repeating GOP "talking points" designed to reassure voters before the November election.

"These kinds of trips are very scripted and controlled," said Massa, a retired Naval officer who served as a top aide to former NATO commander and retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark. "Everyone who has ever been in the military knows that when the VIPs show up, it's time to paint the rocks. They don't get access to the real data."
(snip)



Eric Massa could use some $$$ his way:
www.massaforcongress.com

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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:46 PM
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10. And where are the stories about drunk drivers who make it home safe?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:47 PM
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11. I don't think role playing with your GI Joe counts as an actual
conversation with soldiers.

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:27 PM
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12. I wish that everyone who uses that remark would show us the
good news they are talking about. Maybe he thinks that "working 10 to 12 hours a day under the threat of attack" is good news.

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