Who do you think will win the CT primary tomorrow

[WI_DEM]

and if you want you can make a prediction.

Here is mine:
Lamont: 52% Lieberman: 48%

Chow!

[MallRat]

1. Lamont 54%, Lieberman 46%...

...and Lieberman is convinced to do the right thing and abandon any attempt to run as an independent.

[quinnox]

2. My feeling is Lieberman will pull it out

and I'm not happy about it but at the same time I will accept the result and not go on some stupid conspiracy foolery - "the election was fixed!" - like I know a lot of Duers will if Lieberman does win.

[WI_DEM]

6. I don't think they have electronic voting in CT

but I could be wrong. Bottom line is not every election is fixed. Sometimes people we don't want to win actually win legitimately.

[quinnox]

12. exactly

[jobycom]

19. They didn't have it in Ohio, either, but everyone is convinced they

cheated anyway. Counting machines, you know.

[NoPasaran]

29. I'm always amazed at the people

Who think that paper ballot = honest election. They must never have heard of Lyndon Baines Johnson!

For the record, I won't be surprised if Joe pulls off a narrow victory. However, I do know that both of my Connecticut-residing parents, both of them in their 80s who have never read a blog, are voting for Lamont.

[WI_DEM]

31. Good for your parents!

[jobycom]

32. Yeah, I don't trust one more than the other, but there does need to

be full transparency on BBV. The codes and programming for each system needs to be published on the Internet so anyone with the skill can step through it. We desperately need voting reform, but it needs to take the form of tighter scrutiny, not preference of one form over another. They cheated pretty darned easily in Florida on paper. For that matter, if someone tampers with a paper ballot, there is no evidence. If someone tampers with an electronic ballot, there is always evidence. The problem now is that the proprietors hide the code that we could use to verify the elections. It's not the form, it's, as always, the people running it who are corrupt, and who need to be corrected.

I'll be very surprised if Lieberman wins. I heard him on Friday talking to Ed Schultz. He's a shaken man, and I think his own polls mirror the public ones. He genuinely feels like he's been a good liberal and a good senator, and that the stink over his support of Bush is overblown (and it is, but only a little). He's a Civil Rights warrior and has been a staunch champion of liberal issues like choice and, with some exceptions I hear, labor, and he feels like this one issue is unfair, and he deserves better. I feel for him, on a personal level. He's a good guy.

But, oh well. The warning signs were in front of him, and the one issue he betrayed us on was too big to overlook. And he still doesn't get it. He voted his conscience. At least he will still have that. And if he does eek out a win, he'll be a better Democrat because of the fear, I hope.

[bdamomma]

35. yea, good for your parents, they know a scoundrel when they

see one. I hope Lamont pulls it off.

[jobycom]

18. It will be fixed, either way

Either Lieberman will win, which means the Republicans fixed it because they would rather have Lieberman in the race, or Lamont will win because the Republicans think his inexperience will help them win in November. Except, of course, that if they can fix the election they'll just fix it in November. So, they will fix it tomorrow because they want to demoralize the Dems by either electing Lamont or Lieberman, or else they want to falsely encourage the Dems by electing either Lamont or Lieberman, which will send the wrong message to the Dems for their strategy for November. Except, of course, that they will righ all of the elections in November, so really they don't have to do it tomorrow...

Wait, I know. Whichever one wins, the other one really won and the Republicans just flipped it, because that's just the type of people they are. Hey, that actually sounds right... Either way, it was rigged.

[longship]

20. Sorry, CT uses old style lever machines.

These are pretty much unfixable mechanical devices.
CT primary will be an honest one.

[jobycom]

26. Um

Aside from my post being sarcasm, :) (which I'm assuming you knew, just making sure, since your post seems so serious :( ), any system can be and has been rigged. This weird recent fixation on BBV makes it seem like people have forgotten that. You can rig an election at any stage from voter registration to announcement of the totals, especially in a primary. Texas has a long history of it. From "Landslide Lyndon" Johnson winning the Senate on a box of ballots found a week after the election when a couple hundred people voted alphabetically, to Ralph Yarborough's primary loss to Alan Shivers in 58, to Henry Cuellar's using LBJ's trick of finding a lost ballot box in a polling place owned by a Republican supporter of Bush to eek out a victory, cheating is a long-standing tradition in American politics.

But it was still sarcasm. My only point is any system can be gamed.

[quinnox]

23. lol

[Telly Savalas]

42. The Republicans will fix it so that Lamont wins in November.

That way they can use him to portray the Democrats as far left socialists who pander to Cheetoes-munching pothead extremist "netroots" and win the seat back in 6 years.

(Let's make sure all our bases are covered here.)

[liberal N proud]

3. With a little help from Diebold, Joe will pull it out!

[matcom]

4. no Diebold in CT

for the 1000th time :eyes:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

8. Diebold rigs paper ballots too.

And it also magically changes vote totals in neighboring states. Didn't you know?

Oh, and in case you didn't know it... :sarcasm:

[rinsd]

33. Reminds me of the Nirvana song In Bloom

Hey - He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means

[liberal N proud]

9. What are the machines

Paper ballots with optical scanners? They can be rigged as well.

[matcom]

11. they still pull levers in CT

[helderheid]

16. are those fairly secure? I know nothing about them.

[calico1]

21. There is a DU'er from Ct

that has worked in polling places and according to this poster it's very hard to cheat with lever machines. I have lived in CT for almost 20 years and I can honestly say that there has never been a voting scandal, reports of voting irregularity or anything like that. If Lieberman wins it will be because the non affiliated and new voters turned out in higher numbers for him, the polls were wrong, he got enough people who usually don't vote to go out, or any combination of these things. Voting here is pretty clean. Even if he wanted to steal it, I don't think he could.

[helderheid]

28. thank you. Gives me hope!

[readmoreoften]

39. They're the old fashioned kind. I luv em.

I grew up voting on these wonderful behemoths. Big gray metal booths, you flip a little switch (non electronic) and it puts a red dot next to your candidates name, then when all your dots are in the right places, you pull the lever and it records them. Most likely on a paper ballot.

Oh course this might be a hanging chad situation.

[Common Sense Party]

17. Sure, because whenever somebody we want loses an election,

it's due to Diebold vote-stealing.

:eyes:

[Breeze54]

24. Connecticut Plug pulled on electronic voting ... for now!

Connecticut Post - Jan 5 2006

Plug pulled on electronic voting
KEN DIXON [e-mail]

HARTFORD —
Connecticut electors this year will return, one more time, to the state's clunky
but dependable mechanical voting machines, after a computer-based model failed
to meet crucial criteria.
The announcement was made at a Capitol news conference Wednesday, when Secretary
of the State Susan Bysiewicz and Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said they
now hope to have the new technology in place for the 2007 municipal elections.

More at link....

http://www.connpost.com/news/ci_3373230

[Breeze54]

30. Absentee ballots are in demand

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-nor.absentee2aaug07,0,1412191.story?coll=stam-news-local-headlines

Absentee ballots are in demand

By Chris Gosier
Staff Writer

Published August 7 2006

Tomorrow's Democratic primary appears to be fueling a surge in absentee ballots
at election offices, as vacation-bound Democrats ensure that their votes will
be counted in high-profile political contests.

That's according to city clerks who didn't expect to be mailing so many
absentee ballots. "It definitely surprised us,"
Norwalk Town Clerk Andrew Garfunkel said.

His office sent nearly 400 ballots to Democratic voters as of Friday,
compared to about 200 sent for the 2004 Democratic presidential race.

The contest between U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman and his challenger,
Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont, "is really driving this primary."

"In the summertime, (voters) probably wouldn't care as much," he said.

In a race that has nationwide attention because its defining issue is the Bush
administration's handling of the war in Iraq, Lamont surged past Lieberman by
13 percentage points in a Quinnipiac University poll released last week.
Lamont led the three-term senator 54 percent to 41 percent, despite Lieberman's
support from several party luminaries, including former President Clinton.

Lamont is running as the anti-war candidate; Lieberman supports the war.

More.........

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. I don't really know, but I'm scared.

I really hope Lamont blows his doors off and eliminates Lieberman's ideas of running as an Indie. Anything short of that is going to be really fucking ugly. :cry:

[Flirtus]

15. Amen.

[Demeter]

7. The People of Connecticut, the US and the World

excluding the Bushbots, who will see prison up close and first hand.

[Robbien]

10. The netroots turnout is great, but the Young Republicans have a GOTV

game that is very very honed.

Just keeping my fingers crossed and keep sending good vibes eastward.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Bye bye Joe!

No Diebold = no help for YOU!

[GodlessBiker]

14. Lamont, 52-48%

[GodlessBiker]

43. Spot on...what do I win?

[Vincardog]

22. Lamont 56% LIEberman 44% I donn't know 2%

[Breeze54]

25. I hope it's Lamont but it'll be very close!

They're only 6 percentage points away from each other now.

It remains to be seen.....

[WI_DEM]

27. I think it will be very close or a blow out for Lamont

If our grass roots show up we could win handily--if not it will be a long night.

[bdamomma]

34. I hope Lamont beats Lieberman's ass

Lieberman has showed us his true colors, now it is time for him to think that he is not invincible.

[sandnsea]

36. Hand recount to Lieberman

By just a handful of votes.

[WI_DEM]

37. I hope that the verdict tomorrow is as most on DU see it.

[KingFlorez]

38. Lieberman 60% Lamont 39%

That's how I think it will be

[saltpoint]

40. Lamont 54%, Lieberman 45%, Other 1%

[Bryan]

41. Lieberman in a squeaker

I certainly hope I'm wrong, but the man has vast resources to bring to bear, and all of his public appearances betray his knowledge that there's a hellhound on his trail. He will struggle like a furious child to keep from losing his cozy sinecure.

[WI_DEM]

44. So how close did you come with your prediction?