OK Bush just flip-flopped....He said that we must have a end to the

[xultar]

hostilities before we can address the root cause.

Isn't that exactly the opposite of their fucked up foriegn policy from a week ago? They wanted to allow Israel go all the way and end Hezbollah, right? Israel wasn't gonna stop shooting until Hezbollah was dead, right?

[merh]

1. that was yesterday, this is today

why must you live in the past, why do you always have to blame the weed? :sarcasm:

Ooops, guess I was channelling posters from other forums. Nevermind.


:hi:

[rock]

8. Yes, please try to keep up

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. Huh? I thought it was no ceasefire until lasting and sustainble

peace is ensured!

[mom cat]

4. That was when George thought that the Israelis would win.

[itzamirakul]

12. I don't think that Bush was the only one to think that the Israelis

would win. Everyone got a little wake-up surprise here.

[bigbrother05]

19. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! nt

[C_U_L8R]

14. Bush was for it ...before he was against it

[xultar]

17. SCORE! Kerry should be using this line. He should have a press conf.

and say..Bush is a flip flopper and he was against an end to hostiilities before he was for it.

[bullimiami]

3. it wont be long before he says something and its opposite

in the same speech.

[xultar]

5. OMFG...a reporter asked the question!!! YEAH. I'm sure he'll be fired.

[zippy890]

6. did he really say that? WTF?

how about an immediate ceasefire like about 3 weeks ago!@$##@^%$&%$&^%

AAARRGH

[xultar]

16. EGGSACTLY!

[Crankie Avalon]

7. The roll stuffed in his mouth was buttered on the opposite side this time

...changed his whole perspective.

[W_HAMILTON]

9. The "rules of debate" don't apply to Republicans

That's why everyone should just ignore their silly talking points, a la "flip-flopper," "cut-and-run," etc. There's plenty of instances where you could point out where Republicans do the same sort of things, and you could point out their hypocrisy, but it doesn't matter because the rules of a "normal debate" don't apply to them or their followers.

They and their followers don't care if they're proven wrong.
They and their followers don't care if they make a hypocritical statement.
They and their followers don't care about engaging in a logical debate about something.

They'll spit out their little catch phrases -- right or wrong -- and they'll hurl baseless insults and attacks at people -- whether true or not. Needless to say, there are plenty of dumbass Americans out there that they'll fool, and plenty of dumbass Americans out there who want to be fooled (ie, I'm a Republican, I will find a way to justify anything a fellow Republican says or does).

So fuck it.

Whoever said Democrats should just ignore Republicans and their talking points and keep attacking them back is right. Trying to defend yourself (or in this case, point out the hypocrisy) is almost pointless because it just gives them credence to their talking points in the first place. Just ignore them; everyone either already knows they're full of shit, or believes their bullshit because they're "one of their own" and they'll never go against them anyway.

[MaineDem]

10. Did they say why there's no video of this?

Audio only. Actually, it's better not seeing him.

[elehhhhna]

13. Becasue the Western WH is actually Crawford HS. Here's a photo from

COndi's speech yesterday am:




Maybe they're waxing the bball floors? School starts soon here in TX.

[kurth]

11. "I do not need to explain why I say things.

Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation..." - The Chimp

[xultar]

15. Because 'Splainin is hard work!!!!

[gratuitous]

18. Wait, what if the cease fire isn't sustainable?

Last week, those of us who wanted the two sides to stop shooting at each other were derided as naive or evil or something else unsavory. This week, Lil Boots hisself is saying the same thing that we were. Oh wait, I remember:

9/11 changed everything.

[caligirl]

20. Rice: Defang Hezbollah was what she said, that to have a real

peace Israel had to first "DEFANG" Hezbollah.

[Nothing Without Hope]

21. This is Bush-speak. Bombing BY Israel isn't "hostilities." n/t

[daydreamer]

22. He could have said it on day one and saved hundreds of lives.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

[MissWaverly]

23. didn't he say he didn't want wimpy peace but sustainable peace